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  • http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/08/absent_browns_cornerback_kwaun.html

    Well isn't THIS just peachy? The position we're most thin...ugh.

    BEREA, Ohio — Browns nickelback K'Waun Williams is waiting for a second opinion on his ankle, but is expected back with the team soon, a league source told cleveland.com.


    Williams, who's been in a battle with Jamar Taylor for the starting nickelback job, did not attend the Browns preseason opener in Green Bay Friday night and has missed the last two days of practice here. The club announced it was for a personal reason and has declined to elaborate.

    But the source said Williams, the Browns' starting nickelback the past two seasons, is dealing with an ankle issue and is in the process of getting a second opinion from a specialist. Williams was hoping to seen one in Charlotte, N.C., but is now planning to return to Cleveland for that exam, the source said.

    He said Williams will be able to attend meetings, but probably won't be able to begin practicing yet. The source said Williams' issue has nothing to do with his history of concussions.

    Before he left, Williams was in a heated battle with Taylor for the nickelback job that Williams had last season, when he played in 13 games and started six.

    "Both of those kids, football is very important to them,'' defensive backs coach Louie Cijoffi said last week. "There's a saying that iron sharpens iron. Just like they are out there, these guys are competing with each other. At the end of the day, we'll end up with two really good football players that are going to help us win games."

    Taylor, a second-round pick of the Dolphins in 2013 who didn't live up to his draft status there, the Browns traded for him on draft day this year. As it stands, he's now the frontrunner for the demanding nickel post.

    "In Jamar's case, he's a true professional,'' said Cioffi. "He's embraced the challenge. He's come in and he's worked really hard both on and off the field. He takes coaching really well. He really has a really good athletic skillset. He can play both on the outside and he can play inside. Like I said, I'm excited to see him play in games. I'm glad we got him."

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    Coiffi cited Taylor's "knowledge of football, his awareness of football, just being a natural football player, No.1, but then his really good quickness, that really helps when you're inside there'' as reasons he'll make a good nickelback.

    Cioffi preferred not to dwell on why Taylor didn't pan out in Miami.

    "I try not to talk about what they've done other places because I don't know what they were asked to do,'' Cioffi. "All I know is what we coach and what we expect from them."

    Last season, Williams totaled 38 tackles, one sack, two passes defensed, three forced fumbles and two fumble recoveries.

  • I knew he wasn't a starter...

    "Expected back soon" sounds good, but I did not realize he was in a close competition with Taylor.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I knew he wasn't a starter...

    "Expected back soon" sounds good, but I did not realize he was in a close competition with Taylor.

    @tour2ma said:

    I knew he wasn't a starter...

    "Expected back soon" sounds good, but I did not realize he was in a close competition with Taylor.

    Man T, every single man on the roster better be in competition with someone.... If not, it's Pettine Ball all over again.

  • I hear ya, D.... just was not aware it was "close"...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I hear ya, D.... just was not aware it was "close"...

    @tour2ma said:

    I hear ya, D.... just was not aware it was "close"...

    Hey T, how in the world do I 'ignore' someone (Ghoo..)

  • D BoneD D Bone

    @tour2ma said:

    I hear ya, D.... just was not aware it was "close"...

    Hey T, how in the world do I 'ignore' someone (Ghoo..)

    @d-bone said:

    Hey T, how in the world do I 'ignore' someone (Ghoo..)

    lol... even a thread a week is too much?

    The Management has simplified it... probably in preparation for his return... 😉

    Upper right corner... click on your screen name... lower right of drop window you'll see "Manage Ignore Prefs"...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • THANKS!! I owe ya a beer in the Tavern in a few weeks............ 🙂

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I hear ya, D.... just was not aware it was "close"...

    @tour2ma said:

    I hear ya, D.... just was not aware it was "close"...

    It cant be close....Taylor stood out as "not looking good" in the game, which has been his issue since he was drafted.....Kwaun has a solid 2 year history of exceptional(top stuff) kind of play.....

    The whole competition thing is just coach speak.....if he's healthy, it'll be kwaun

    and Im really sorry to hear he could be down, cause we need him......

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  • Williams was suspended and docked a game check? Evidently he us upset at his status on the team? Anyone know what he did?

  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    Williams was suspended and docked a game check? Evidently he us upset at his status on the team? Anyone know what he did?

    @flyin-j said:

    Williams was suspended and docked a game check? Evidently he us upset at his status on the team? Anyone know what he did?

    Make sure you have the right Williams. 🙂

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000686314/article/browns-to-suspend-cb-kwaun-williams-two-weeks

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  • http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/8/16/12512312/report-browns-suspending-cb-k-waun-williams-for-two-games

    Uh, what the hell, man?! K'Waun had tremendous injury concerns, but he could be a terrific nickel corner when healthy. Apparently the coaches weren't happy about Williams "scratching himself" from a recent practice, and also getting a second opinion. There are protocols to follow and perhaps he didn't do it correctly. I don't know, but I can definitely tell something is very wrong, and it wouldn't surprise me if Williams was cut. I hate to think that because we're so thin at DB, but it has that smell to it.

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    @flyin-j said:

    Williams was suspended and docked a game check? Evidently he us upset at his status on the team? Anyone know what he did?

    Make sure you have the right Williams. 🙂

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000686314/article/browns-to-suspend-cb-kwaun-williams-two-weeks

    @hoorta said:

    Make sure you have the right Williams. 🙂

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000686314/article/browns-to-suspend-cb-kwaun-williams-two-weeks

    I posted about K'waun in a K'Waun thread, not sure where mud got Tramon haha

  • I hope this all gets worked out. We are going to need K'waun, he played pretty good last year. Even if Haden stays healthy all season, Tramon has lost a step and Jamar Taylor hasn't shown much. Real game action could quickly expose Taylor or Tramon, and K'waun could easily move into a starting spot.

  • This is getting crazy. I really hope cooler heads prevail, but this has the makings of a terrible cluster chicken. Suspending a player for a game is NO JOKE, and is not done lightly. I hate this crap.

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  • Only a real pass rush is going to make anyone in our secondary any better. ❗

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  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    This is getting crazy. I really hope cooler heads prevail, but this has the makings of a terrible cluster chicken. Suspending a player for a game is NO JOKE, and is not done lightly. I hate this crap.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    This is getting crazy. I really hope cooler heads prevail, but this has the makings of a terrible cluster chicken. Suspending a player for a game is NO JOKE, and is not done lightly. I hate this crap.

    Such is life with a "player's coach"... 😮

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • I'm guessing there is more to the story and it sounds like Hue is following through with the 'crap from you guys won't be tolerated' stuff.

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  • Jamar Taylor somehow went under my radar, former second round pick we got in a draft position trade, just 25 years old.

    I am now officially intrigued, gonna watch him tomorrow night.

    Zombo

  • Shit just got real for K'Waun:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000686314/article/kwaun-williams-suspended-two-weeks-by-browns

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    I'm guessing there is more to the story and it sounds like Hue is following through with the 'crap from you guys won't be tolerated' stuff.

    @d-bone said:

    I'm guessing there is more to the story and it sounds like Hue is following through with the 'crap from you guys won't be tolerated' stuff.

    I wonder how much of this stems from K'waun's injury and concussion history. He might of felt ok with playing for a series or two since that's what the 1st team would of played. After getting put on the 2nd team and knowing he would have to play alot more he decided the injury risk was too much for a preseason game. After Haden had that arm injury last year and tried to play through it, ending in a concussion, I don't blame K'waun being iffy about playing injuried.

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