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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I hear ya, D.... just was not aware it was "close"...

    @tour2ma said:

    I hear ya, D.... just was not aware it was "close"...

    It cant be close....Taylor stood out as "not looking good" in the game, which has been his issue since he was drafted.....Kwaun has a solid 2 year history of exceptional(top stuff) kind of play.....

    The whole competition thing is just coach speak.....if he's healthy, it'll be kwaun

    and Im really sorry to hear he could be down, cause we need him......

    FlugelF 1 Reply

  • Williams was suspended and docked a game check? Evidently he us upset at his status on the team? Anyone know what he did?

  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    Williams was suspended and docked a game check? Evidently he us upset at his status on the team? Anyone know what he did?

    @flyin-j said:

    Williams was suspended and docked a game check? Evidently he us upset at his status on the team? Anyone know what he did?

    Make sure you have the right Williams. 🙂

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000686314/article/browns-to-suspend-cb-kwaun-williams-two-weeks

    Flyin JF 1 Reply

  • http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/8/16/12512312/report-browns-suspending-cb-k-waun-williams-for-two-games

    Uh, what the hell, man?! K'Waun had tremendous injury concerns, but he could be a terrific nickel corner when healthy. Apparently the coaches weren't happy about Williams "scratching himself" from a recent practice, and also getting a second opinion. There are protocols to follow and perhaps he didn't do it correctly. I don't know, but I can definitely tell something is very wrong, and it wouldn't surprise me if Williams was cut. I hate to think that because we're so thin at DB, but it has that smell to it.

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @flyin-j said:

    Williams was suspended and docked a game check? Evidently he us upset at his status on the team? Anyone know what he did?

    Make sure you have the right Williams. 🙂

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000686314/article/browns-to-suspend-cb-kwaun-williams-two-weeks

    @hoorta said:

    Make sure you have the right Williams. 🙂

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000686314/article/browns-to-suspend-cb-kwaun-williams-two-weeks

    I posted about K'waun in a K'Waun thread, not sure where mud got Tramon haha

  • I hope this all gets worked out. We are going to need K'waun, he played pretty good last year. Even if Haden stays healthy all season, Tramon has lost a step and Jamar Taylor hasn't shown much. Real game action could quickly expose Taylor or Tramon, and K'waun could easily move into a starting spot.

  • This is getting crazy. I really hope cooler heads prevail, but this has the makings of a terrible cluster chicken. Suspending a player for a game is NO JOKE, and is not done lightly. I hate this crap.

    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • Only a real pass rush is going to make anyone in our secondary any better. ❗

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  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    This is getting crazy. I really hope cooler heads prevail, but this has the makings of a terrible cluster chicken. Suspending a player for a game is NO JOKE, and is not done lightly. I hate this crap.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    This is getting crazy. I really hope cooler heads prevail, but this has the makings of a terrible cluster chicken. Suspending a player for a game is NO JOKE, and is not done lightly. I hate this crap.

    Such is life with a "player's coach"... 😮

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • I'm guessing there is more to the story and it sounds like Hue is following through with the 'crap from you guys won't be tolerated' stuff.

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  • Jamar Taylor somehow went under my radar, former second round pick we got in a draft position trade, just 25 years old.

    I am now officially intrigued, gonna watch him tomorrow night.

    Zombo

  • Shit just got real for K'Waun:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000686314/article/kwaun-williams-suspended-two-weeks-by-browns

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  • D BoneD D Bone

    I'm guessing there is more to the story and it sounds like Hue is following through with the 'crap from you guys won't be tolerated' stuff.

    @d-bone said:

    I'm guessing there is more to the story and it sounds like Hue is following through with the 'crap from you guys won't be tolerated' stuff.

    I wonder how much of this stems from K'waun's injury and concussion history. He might of felt ok with playing for a series or two since that's what the 1st team would of played. After getting put on the 2nd team and knowing he would have to play alot more he decided the injury risk was too much for a preseason game. After Haden had that arm injury last year and tried to play through it, ending in a concussion, I don't blame K'waun being iffy about playing injuried.

    D BoneD 1 Reply
  • Z Zombo

    Shit just got real for K'Waun:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000686314/article/kwaun-williams-suspended-two-weeks-by-browns

    Zombo said:

    Shit just got real for K'Waun:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000686314/article/kwaun-williams-suspended-two-weeks-by-browns

    The "offered a full workload" strikes me as odd for the first preseason game. He has shown to be a solid corner at the slot and as fill in for the #2 spot in his last two season. I don't think he is in the Gilbert or Mingo position to show me something to keep you on the roster. If he had any injury, he shouldn't of been at a full workload for a preseason game, he is important to this defense even as the 4th corner.

  • I inliner311

    @d-bone said:

    I'm guessing there is more to the story and it sounds like Hue is following through with the 'crap from you guys won't be tolerated' stuff.

    I wonder how much of this stems from K'waun's injury and concussion history. He might of felt ok with playing for a series or two since that's what the 1st team would of played. After getting put on the 2nd team and knowing he would have to play alot more he decided the injury risk was too much for a preseason game. After Haden had that arm injury last year and tried to play through it, ending in a concussion, I don't blame K'waun being iffy about playing injuried.

    @inliner311 said:

    I wonder how much of this stems from K'waun's injury and concussion history. He might of felt ok with playing for a series or two since that's what the 1st team would of played. After getting put on the 2nd team and knowing he would have to play alot more he decided the injury risk was too much for a preseason game. After Haden had that arm injury last year and tried to play through it, ending in a concussion, I don't blame K'waun being iffy about playing injuried.

    That's just speculation, and the team and Hue know what really went on, so I'll side with them as the last thing a coach wants to do is suspend players that help him win and therefore keep his job.

    👍

  • Hue obviously has the final say, but this had to come up through Horton.

    The stranger has a speculative point about the concussion risk, but it is not exactly far-fetched.

    As for helping the coach win... if he was demoted to 2nd string, then the coach wasn't all that high on him.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Hue is sending a message to the team. You got a boo-boo? Tape it up and get out there!

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE

  • IMHO, a large part of why so many players are "all in" with Hue is that he (unlike a previous HC) doesn't go public with player issues/concerns. He keeps it in house & has the player's trust as a result. I, as usual, am not buying media speculation as fact. The fact is that Williams is suspended 2 games. Why? We may never know the whole story, but it is what it is, so GO BROWNS!

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST
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  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

    IMHO, a large part of why so many players are "all in" with Hue is that he (unlike a previous HC) doesn't go public with player issues/concerns. He keeps it in house & has the player's trust as a result. I, as usual, am not buying media speculation as fact. The fact is that Williams is suspended 2 games. Why? We may never know the whole story, but it is what it is, so GO BROWNS!

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    IMHO, a large part of why so many players are "all in" with Hue is that he (unlike a previous HC) doesn't go public with player issues/concerns. He keeps it in house & has the player's trust as a result. I, as usual, am not buying media speculation as fact. The fact is that Williams is suspended 2 games. Why? We may never know the whole story, but it is what it is, so GO BROWNS!

    Mike

    Exactly!

  • http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/08/browns_kwaun_williams_told_he.html

    K'Waun Williams told he needs ankle surgery; will appeal Browns' suspension and fine

    CLEVELAND, Ohio — Browns cornerback K'Waun Williams was told by a specialist today that he needs surgery to remove bone spurs from his right ankle "in order for him to perform as a professional,'' his agent told cleveland.com.
    As a result, Williams will appeal his two-game suspension and one-game fine by the Browns.
    "We will appeal the suspension and fine through the NFLPA,'' Krakower said.
    The fine amounts to more than $35,000 or 1/17th of his $600,000 salary.
    A league source said Williams left the Green Bay game Friday night claiming he was going to retire and then came back the next day saying his ankle was injured.
    But a source close to Williams said the nickelback made the team aware on Friday night that the sore ankle was the reason he couldn't play.
    Williams had the second opinion on the ankle at the Cleveland Clinic Wednesday at about 5 p.m.
    NFL Network reported that Williams opted not to play because nickelback Jamar Taylor was starting ahead of him, but the source told cleveland.com that was untrue.
    The source said Williams was still ailing from the ankle injury first suffered while defending Rashard Higgins on a pass from Robert Griffin III in the Orange and Browns scrimmage at Ohio State. He was seen by a trainer after coming up limping that day and received treatment the day before the Packers game.
    More to come soon.
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