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K'Waun Williams Cut

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  • This is getting crazy. I really hope cooler heads prevail, but this has the makings of a terrible cluster chicken. Suspending a player for a game is NO JOKE, and is not done lightly. I hate this crap.

  • Only a real pass rush is going to make anyone in our secondary any better. ❗

  • This is getting crazy. I really hope cooler heads prevail, but this has the makings of a terrible cluster chicken. Suspending a player for a game is NO JOKE, and is not done lightly. I hate this crap.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    This is getting crazy. I really hope cooler heads prevail, but this has the makings of a terrible cluster chicken. Suspending a player for a game is NO JOKE, and is not done lightly. I hate this crap.

    Such is life with a "player's coach"... 😮

  • I'm guessing there is more to the story and it sounds like Hue is following through with the 'crap from you guys won't be tolerated' stuff.

  • Jamar Taylor somehow went under my radar, former second round pick we got in a draft position trade, just 25 years old.

    I am now officially intrigued, gonna watch him tomorrow night.

    Zombo

  • I'm guessing there is more to the story and it sounds like Hue is following through with the 'crap from you guys won't be tolerated' stuff.

    @d-bone said:

    I'm guessing there is more to the story and it sounds like Hue is following through with the 'crap from you guys won't be tolerated' stuff.

    I wonder how much of this stems from K'waun's injury and concussion history. He might of felt ok with playing for a series or two since that's what the 1st team would of played. After getting put on the 2nd team and knowing he would have to play alot more he decided the injury risk was too much for a preseason game. After Haden had that arm injury last year and tried to play through it, ending in a concussion, I don't blame K'waun being iffy about playing injuried.

  • Zombo said:

    Shit just got real for K'Waun:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000686314/article/kwaun-williams-suspended-two-weeks-by-browns

    The "offered a full workload" strikes me as odd for the first preseason game. He has shown to be a solid corner at the slot and as fill in for the #2 spot in his last two season. I don't think he is in the Gilbert or Mingo position to show me something to keep you on the roster. If he had any injury, he shouldn't of been at a full workload for a preseason game, he is important to this defense even as the 4th corner.

  • @d-bone said:

    I'm guessing there is more to the story and it sounds like Hue is following through with the 'crap from you guys won't be tolerated' stuff.

    I wonder how much of this stems from K'waun's injury and concussion history. He might of felt ok with playing for a series or two since that's what the 1st team would of played. After getting put on the 2nd team and knowing he would have to play alot more he decided the injury risk was too much for a preseason game. After Haden had that arm injury last year and tried to play through it, ending in a concussion, I don't blame K'waun being iffy about playing injuried.

    @inliner311 said:

    I wonder how much of this stems from K'waun's injury and concussion history. He might of felt ok with playing for a series or two since that's what the 1st team would of played. After getting put on the 2nd team and knowing he would have to play alot more he decided the injury risk was too much for a preseason game. After Haden had that arm injury last year and tried to play through it, ending in a concussion, I don't blame K'waun being iffy about playing injuried.

    That's just speculation, and the team and Hue know what really went on, so I'll side with them as the last thing a coach wants to do is suspend players that help him win and therefore keep his job.

  • Hue obviously has the final say, but this had to come up through Horton.

    The stranger has a speculative point about the concussion risk, but it is not exactly far-fetched.

    As for helping the coach win... if he was demoted to 2nd string, then the coach wasn't all that high on him.

  • Hue is sending a message to the team. You got a boo-boo? Tape it up and get out there!

  • IMHO, a large part of why so many players are "all in" with Hue is that he (unlike a previous HC) doesn't go public with player issues/concerns. He keeps it in house & has the player's trust as a result. I, as usual, am not buying media speculation as fact. The fact is that Williams is suspended 2 games. Why? We may never know the whole story, but it is what it is, so GO BROWNS!

    Mike

  • IMHO, a large part of why so many players are "all in" with Hue is that he (unlike a previous HC) doesn't go public with player issues/concerns. He keeps it in house & has the player's trust as a result. I, as usual, am not buying media speculation as fact. The fact is that Williams is suspended 2 games. Why? We may never know the whole story, but it is what it is, so GO BROWNS!

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    IMHO, a large part of why so many players are "all in" with Hue is that he (unlike a previous HC) doesn't go public with player issues/concerns. He keeps it in house & has the player's trust as a result. I, as usual, am not buying media speculation as fact. The fact is that Williams is suspended 2 games. Why? We may never know the whole story, but it is what it is, so GO BROWNS!

    Mike

    Exactly!

  • http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/08/browns_kwaun_williams_told_he.html

    K'Waun Williams told he needs ankle surgery; will appeal Browns' suspension and fine

    CLEVELAND, Ohio — Browns cornerback K'Waun Williams was told by a specialist today that he needs surgery to remove bone spurs from his right ankle "in order for him to perform as a professional,'' his agent told cleveland.com.
    As a result, Williams will appeal his two-game suspension and one-game fine by the Browns.
    "We will appeal the suspension and fine through the NFLPA,'' Krakower said.
    The fine amounts to more than $35,000 or 1/17th of his $600,000 salary.
    A league source said Williams left the Green Bay game Friday night claiming he was going to retire and then came back the next day saying his ankle was injured.
    But a source close to Williams said the nickelback made the team aware on Friday night that the sore ankle was the reason he couldn't play.
    Williams had the second opinion on the ankle at the Cleveland Clinic Wednesday at about 5 p.m.
    NFL Network reported that Williams opted not to play because nickelback Jamar Taylor was starting ahead of him, but the source told cleveland.com that was untrue.
    The source said Williams was still ailing from the ankle injury first suffered while defending Rashard Higgins on a pass from Robert Griffin III in the Orange and Browns scrimmage at Ohio State. He was seen by a trainer after coming up limping that day and received treatment the day before the Packers game.
    More to come soon.
  • This is a bad look for the browns. He said he wasn't feeling right and the coaching staff say they giving him a full workload in a preseason game. Alot of leaked info here to make K'waun look bad. Coaching staff and medical staff need to make this right.

  • well now don't you all hue huggers feel like asses?

  • well now don't you all hue huggers feel like asses?

    @miktoxic said:

    well now don't you all hue huggers feel like asses?

    I would say, "well now don't all you K'Waun lovers feel like asses"? 😉

  • well now don't you all hue huggers feel like asses?

    @miktoxic said:

    well now don't you all hue huggers feel like asses?

    I wouldn't put this squarely on the head coach, they do need look into the medical staff that cleared him. They didn't believe in his injury he was complaining about and instead of going out of house to figure out what was ailing him, they just lead or allowed the coaching staff to believe he was faking an injury. That's not a doctor they need around.

  • Bone spurs don't develop over night, dude should've been a pro and had it taken care of in the off season.

  • Stop rooting against the guy, Mik.