The media hatred of RG3 seems beyond irrational.

SkippinTurtles

Griffin is a top 15 QB. Is he really worse than Cutler or Stafford?

miktoxic

@skippinturtles said:
Griffin is a top 15 QB. Is he really worse than Cutler or Stafford?

can we let the year play out before we say he's better than either?

he's an upgrade from nothing, that's for sure but that means absofuckinglutely nothing.....cuz we had nothing except a steady backup as a starter the last couple of years.

top 15? yeah his rookie year. anything after that?

nope. didn't think so.

let's just hope he stays healthy so he can be a top 30 QB.

darkside5

I don't know if he's top anything, but I do know this. He's the best we've had since 1999.

miktoxic

@darkside5 said:
I don't know if he's top anything, but I do know this. He's the best we've had since 1999.

agree.

BUT speaking of the preseason and over-inflated optimism.......just watched colt mccoy do a 360 spin move that broke a jet's DE's ankles and then ran for 15 yards. so......can we slow the roll for a sec and let everyone grasp reality?

One Post

@diehardbrownsfan said:
He don't like black women?

He likes his women like his coffee. Strong n sweet.

One Post

Zombo said:

Apparently, RG3 liked this Estonian trackster from FSU.

Hope she likes Strongsville.

http://dailysnark.com/rg3-new-smoking-hot-estonian-girlfriend-divorcing-wife/

Zombo

Goddamn I guess. Id fuck as hard as I could without hurting my selves.

darkside5

@miktoxic said:

agree.

BUT speaking of the preseason and over-inflated optimism.......just watched colt mccoy do a 360 spin move that broke a jet's DE's ankles and then ran for 15 yards. so......can we slow the roll for a sec and let everyone grasp reality?

What I'm sayin mik, it's not going to be a difficult task to out perform our QB play for the last 16 years. I think that is reality. The best we've had up to now is RG III's backup. But time will tell and I am optimistic Griffin can get the job done.

GO BROWNS !!!

Tim Couch Pulls Out

Old fogeys can't handle a black quarterback.

Can't have that....next we'll be talking about lettin em go to our schools.

FALCON7

Don't you always upgrade the wife after the money rolls in?

Mr. religious (Russell Wilson) even dumped his 1st wife for a, "Hotter Model".

DieHardBrownsFan

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Old fogeys can't handle a black quarterback.

Can't have that....next we'll be talking about lettin em go to our schools.

Specially them there NC hick schools with them crackers.....

Adoug319

@falcon7 said:

Don't you always upgrade the wife after the money rolls in?

Mr. religious (Russell Wilson) even dumped his 1st wife for a, "Hotter Model".

Russell Wilson divorced his wife because she fucked Golden Tate

Adoug319

Zombo said:

Apparently, RG3 liked this Estonian trackster from FSU.

Hope she likes Strongsville.

http://dailysnark.com/rg3-new-smoking-hot-estonian-girlfriend-divorcing-wife/

Zombo

He already got the new chick's name tatted on his arm

Her name is Grete Sadeiko.. Check out his arm

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@diehardbrownsfan said:
Specially them there NC hick schools with them crackers.....

Next thing we know they'll be marryin' our women and takin' our jobs

nickers

She's cute but nothing special..not bad certainly..

Flyin J

@darkside5 said:
I don't know if he's top anything, but I do know this. He's the best we've had since 1999.

Is it possible he has the most weapons since 99?

Taco918

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:
Next thing we know they'll be marryin' our women and takin' our jobs

Sorry, I had to.

jiggins7919

RG III is going to have his share of struggles this year, and that's probably ok. Let's be honest, he's not exactly playing for an elite team here (I'm looking at YOU defense). He's probably not going to have the advantage of playing with a defense that forces a ton of three and outs or turnovers. Additionally, he'll probably be playing from behind in most games and won't have the luxury of getting the full use of the running game. This I'd a lot to ask of any qb, especially one who had his confidence rocked and went through a messy team divorce (and subsequent personal divorce)

Do we know that our defense will be this bad? Of course not, but it's safe to say we don't exactly have a bevy of talent. Offensively, we may be a few steps above last season, but that's not a given. Patience will be required. If we're down by two scores and the defense knows we're passing it, RG III will have to trust his reads and make quick decisions. And do so under duress.

We need to look at big picture aspects. Can RG III play well enough the entire season to warrant being the guy next year? In the end, that's what we're looking for. Yes, we're all sick and tired of playing for next year, but we HAVE to stabilize the qb position and by association, the coaching staff. If RG III remains healthy, plays well enough to lock down the job, and helps us win some games, the season will probably be a success based on him alone. Once you have the qb, other pieces can be assembled. Now, what does that type of year look like statistically? I'm guessing at least 20 tds, 3 more on the ground, 12 or so picks, and 5-6 wins. Those numbers obviously won't blow anybody's skirt up, but it would be a nice start.

Tour2ma

Defensive talent is an issue... no doubt about it, but in pre-2 I thought Horton showed some imagination... more than I remember in his first stint anyway. DL loops... blitz packages... etc. And those kind of aggressive scheme inclusions can, to an extent, augment the talent he has to work with. The 'Boys' Marinelli has this very reputation.

If there's any truth in what I think I'm seeing, the reason may lay in the personalities of the HCs Ray was under during each stint: Patsy vs. Hue. I've no doubt Patsy was the more conservative of the two... and not by a small amount.

Mudfly

@tour2ma said:

Defensive talent is an issue... no doubt about it, but in pre-2 I thought Horton showed some imagination... more than I remember in his first stint anyway. DL loops... blitz packages... etc. And those kind of aggressive scheme inclusions can, get us burned on third and long(or short)....ha!

If there's any truth in what I think I'm seeing, the reason may lay in the personalities of the HCs Ray was under during each stint: Patsy vs. Hue. I've no doubt Patsy was the more conservative of the two... and not by a small amount.

Does Patsy = Shurmur?.....because Horton was here under Chud....which is interesting because THIS years team reminds me very very very much of Chuds team.....lets have a look, shall we????

Offensive minded head coach?.....check

Player coach?.....check

Players having FUN at practice?.....check....(remember how happy we were about Pettine showing up with some discipline, because practice was supposed to be work???)(and now, AGAIN, we are excited to have A players coach?)(so, which is it, fun or discipline?)

Ray Horton defense?......check

Experienced high end O coordinator?....check

Ballistic receivers?.....check...........(remember, in 2013, Cameron went off and had a Pro bowl year and Josh Gordon had the BEST year ANY receiver has ever had)(mosy passing yds for a Browns team in forever)......and we still sucked, btw.....cause????......(defense)

Aggressive blitzy defense?.....check.....(remember the Pats game(3 or 4 tds in the 4th)....or, ftm, ALL the games we were leading in that we then gave up at the end????)....check check.....

That was the year our D-line and O-line were being touted as our strengths and some of the best in the league(not).....we had new vicious LB's who would stop the run and get to the QB(Mingo and Kruger)(oh my, hahahahahaha)....our D-line was gonna maul QB's and had some new up and comers named Winn, Hughes and 2 Bryants......

So.....our offense had little running game, BUT we had over 4000 yds passing and, supposedly, a mad scientist running the D....But, what really happened was our D sucked rocks and gave up lead after lead after lead.....and, even with the BEST receiver in the league and a Pro-bowl TE, we still got outscored.....game after game after game....

And those talentless blitzes ?????.....only freed up the opposing QB's to pick us apart......too many blitz, using people who cant seal the deal, is like a points buffet for QB's and O coordinators who know wtf they are doing....

Yep....2016 looks A LOT like 2013......just saying

FALCON7

@adoug319 said:
Russell Wilson divorced his wife because she fucked Golden Tate

Russell wasn't giving it up, so she had to look elsewhere...