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  • Mud, did you not expect this to be a complete rebuild?

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
    #45

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Mud, did you not expect this to be a complete rebuild?

    I would have to write a novel to explain what I see VS what I expected.....hey, I knew we weren't gonna win.....and I knew we had crap for talent.....but, so far, I hate the approach and the order they are doing things.....and, I hate the smugness of the FO and LACK of transparency in what they are doing...

    Hate it.....

    Hated the draft too.....just saying....messed up priorities....

    Bring in 4 WR's and QB, then let your O Line walk w/o replacements?

    Desperate for OLBS, so dont draft any high, then release the ones you have w/o replacements?

    Awful choices.....terrible....yuck...blech......blahhhhhh

  • Well well well..... πŸ™‚

    I think everyone knows this is a very special day indeed....one Ive dreamed of for years.....all the yelling and debating and FINALLY the team has seen the light....

    And, while I am enjoying this immensely.....I wish we had a linebacker or 2 to play....but we dont.....

    Ogbah...DE drafted to play OLB....then in week 1 they move him to DE....where HE says he's happiest and the team felt he would play best.....and then training camp focuses on teaching the rookie how to play DE in the NFL.....EXCEPT NOW, when it's time to start the season, they decide he needs to go back to linebacker...

    Very very UNIMPRESSIVE chain of events for a top pick and for a FO that has no foresight ...one that cuts/releases/and lets players go, without any plan to replace them....

    And , if the plan is to replace them next year, or the year after that, or with other teams cuts....then it is a very very bad plan and one that says to Browns fans...."F YOU"....

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
    #46

    @mudfly said:

    Well well well..... πŸ™‚

    I think everyone knows this is a very special day indeed....one Ive dreamed of for years.....

    Happy New Year buddy! How many years have you waited to exhale?

    The mannequin at Macy's had the same number of sacks and solo tackles as Kruger. And that ain't good...

  • @mudfly said:

    Well well well..... πŸ™‚

    I think everyone knows this is a very special day indeed....one Ive dreamed of for years.....

    Happy New Year buddy! How many years have you waited to exhale?

    The mannequin at Macy's had the same number of sacks and solo tackles as Kruger. And that ain't good...

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
    #47

    @flugel said:

    Happy New Year buddy! How many years have you waited to exhale?

    The mannequin at Macy's had the same number of sacks and solo tackles as Kruger. And that ain't good...

    Hahaha....gotta say, I didnt see this coming today, but have been campaigning for it for as long as I can remember.....

    That is the first major plus Jackson has earned from me.....they actually cut the "right" guy for once....

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
    #48

    So ogbah doesnt want to play olb'er? I watched him rush the edge in our 4 man looks and he looks awful. I dont see how he's gonna look any better sliding inside to the 5 tech. Maybe horton is reading my posts and will try using nassib on the edge?

  • So ogbah doesnt want to play olb'er? I watched him rush the edge in our 4 man looks and he looks awful. I dont see how he's gonna look any better sliding inside to the 5 tech. Maybe horton is reading my posts and will try using nassib on the edge?

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
    #49

    @clevfan4life said:

    So ogbah doesnt want to play olb'er? I watched him rush the edge in our 4 man looks and he looks awful. I dont see how he's gonna look any better sliding inside to the 5 tech. Maybe horton is reading my posts and will try using nassib on the edge?

    Well, when they moved him back to DL, he said he was relieved and thought thats where he'd be more comfy and the better player...

    Now that he's back at OLB, he's says he's just happy to play and whatever coach wants, etc, etc, blah blah blah...

    So, our starting OLB has NEVER played a single game at OLB(college or pros).....how comforting.....his backup?....a slow average rookie 5th round pick who's never played a game in the NFL......ok, a 4th round pick(who shoulda been a 5th).....

    You'd think the team would have seen this coming and had Ogbah ready....right?.....dumbasses....

  • One PostO One Post wrote on last edited by
    #50

    I told you's so. One Post don't know nothin does he? πŸ™‚

  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
    #51

    Hey.....I see Paul Kruger released a statement today saying this staff mishandled him.....haven't we heard that from him before?

    Seems that Kruger cant play football worth a crap and 1) blames his coaches.......and then when the talentless turd gets cut, its the staff being wrong again.....

    Kruger needs to man up and accept his stats suck because he played poorly and then got cut for the same reasons amd stop blaming others for it....

    Dont let the door hit your ass Paul Burger King Kruger.....

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  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #52

    So why are you whining so loud about his getting cut? Hue'll figure it out.

  • So why are you whining so loud about his getting cut? Hue'll figure it out.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
    #53

    @wargograw said:

    So why are you whining so loud about his getting cut? Hue'll figure it out.

    Im not whining about him getting cut....Ive been begging for that for 3 years now....

    Im bitching that they didnt have a player ready to replace him.

    Im bitching because they dont have another OLB and they just cut 2...

    Im bitching because I screamed and screamed to draft OLB's and they didnt and now we have none(but we DO have 10 receivers)(yay)

    Im bitching because OGBAH has been playing DE throughout camp and the preseason and TODAY they say he will play OLB...

    And, because of the above, Im bitching because its a clear indication that the coaching staff and FO are NOT remotely close to being on the same page....

    But Kruger?.....screw him....glad he's gone.......

  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
    #54

    Tell me this is the same pumped up - cliche driven - happy go lucky coach you saw just a couple weeks ago....

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Hue-Jackson-press-conference---829/2d3fcdba-b408-4d9a-b9e4-c2e5e1b196ec

  • @wargograw said:

    So why are you whining so loud about his getting cut? Hue'll figure it out.

    Im not whining about him getting cut....Ive been begging for that for 3 years now....

    Im bitching that they didnt have a player ready to replace him.

    Im bitching because they dont have another OLB and they just cut 2...

    Im bitching because I screamed and screamed to draft OLB's and they didnt and now we have none(but we DO have 10 receivers)(yay)

    Im bitching because OGBAH has been playing DE throughout camp and the preseason and TODAY they say he will play OLB...

    And, because of the above, Im bitching because its a clear indication that the coaching staff and FO are NOT remotely close to being on the same page....

    But Kruger?.....screw him....glad he's gone.......

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
    #55

    @mudfly said:

    Im not whining about him getting cut....Ive been begging for that for 3 years now.... CUBAN CIGARS!! They lite like fireworks

    Im bitching that they didnt have a player ready to replace him. KRUGER>>CAN"T BE THAT HARD

    Im bitching because they dont have another OLB and they just cut 2... NEW DEPTH CHART OUT..

    Im bitching because I screamed and screamed to draft OLB's and they didnt and now we have none(but we DO have 10 receivers)(yay) NOT A LB DRAFT MUD, DL YES

    Im bitching because OGBAH has been playing DE throughout camp and the preseason and TODAY they say he will play OLB... 3-4 GOOD. WILL NEVER GET TO QB FROM DE. JUST THE WORD CONVERTS TO::: SUCKS.....

    But Kruger?.....screw him....glad he's gone....... NOW THAT'S THE MUD WE KNOW

    Caps^^We can still beat the Da Bears.. (Just don't have to watch 2 Hug anymore #99)

  • Hey.....I see Paul Kruger released a statement today saying this staff mishandled him.....haven't we heard that from him before?

    Seems that Kruger cant play football worth a crap and 1) blames his coaches.......and then when the talentless turd gets cut, its the staff being wrong again.....

    Kruger needs to man up and accept his stats suck because he played poorly and then got cut for the same reasons amd stop blaming others for it....

    Dont let the door hit your ass Paul Burger King Kruger.....

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    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
    #56

    @mudfly said:

    Hey.....I see Paul Kruger released a statement today saying this staff mishandled him.....haven't we heard that from him before?

    Seems that Kruger cant play football worth a crap and 1) blames his coaches.......and then when the talentless turd gets cut, its the staff being wrong again.....

    Kruger needs to man up and accept his stats suck because he played poorly and then got cut for the same reasons amd stop blaming others for it....

    Dont let the door hit your ass Paul Burger King Kruger.....

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    i'm almost tempted to sign up for twitter and follow kruger just so i can ask him why it's the coach's fault he never learned how to lean into the edge that every other competent edge rusher in the NFL was doing in HS.

  • Well well well..... πŸ™‚

    I think everyone knows this is a very special day indeed....one Ive dreamed of for years.....all the yelling and debating and FINALLY the team has seen the light....

    And, while I am enjoying this immensely.....I wish we had a linebacker or 2 to play....but we dont.....

    Ogbah...DE drafted to play OLB....then in week 1 they move him to DE....where HE says he's happiest and the team felt he would play best.....and then training camp focuses on teaching the rookie how to play DE in the NFL.....EXCEPT NOW, when it's time to start the season, they decide he needs to go back to linebacker...

    Very very UNIMPRESSIVE chain of events for a top pick and for a FO that has no foresight ...one that cuts/releases/and lets players go, without any plan to replace them....

    And , if the plan is to replace them next year, or the year after that, or with other teams cuts....then it is a very very bad plan and one that says to Browns fans...."F YOU"....

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #57

    @mudfly said:

    Well well well..... πŸ™‚

    I think everyone knows this is a very special day indeed....one Ive dreamed of for years.....all the yelling and debating and FINALLY the team has seen the light....

    And, while I am enjoying this immensely.....I wish we had a linebacker or 2 to play....but we dont.....

    Ogbah...DE drafted to play OLB....then in week 1 they move him to DE....where HE says he's happiest and the team felt he would play best.....and then training camp focuses on teaching the rookie how to play DE in the NFL.....EXCEPT NOW, when it's time to start the season, they decide he needs to go back to linebacker...

    Very very UNIMPRESSIVE chain of events for a top pick and for a FO that has no foresight ...one that cuts/releases/and lets players go, without any plan to replace them....

    And , if the plan is to replace them next year, or the year after that, or with other teams cuts....then it is a very very bad plan and one that says to Browns fans...."F YOU"....

    @mudfly said:

    I would have to write a novel to explain what I see VS what I expected.....hey, I knew we weren't gonna win.....and I knew we had crap for talent.....but, so far, I hate the approach and the order they are doing things.....and, I hate the smugness of the FO and LACK of transparency in what they are doing...

    Hate it.....

    Hated the draft too.....just saying....messed up priorities....

    Bring in 4 WR's and QB, then let your O Line walk w/o replacements?

    Desperate for OLBS, so dont draft any high, then release the ones you have w/o replacements?

    Awful choices.....terrible....yuck...blech......blahhhhhh

    wow. soulmates, lol.

  • Austin Davis sucked. So did Kruger.

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
    #58

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Austin Davis sucked. So did Kruger.

    And yet we have not cut Ray Horton.

    WSS

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by
    #59

    If you have a DE playing OLB who doesn't cover very much..

    Sounds like we just moved to a 4-3..

  • If you have a DE playing OLB who doesn't cover very much..

    Sounds like we just moved to a 4-3..

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #60

    @unsympathetic said:

    If you have a DE playing OLB who doesn't cover very much..

    Sounds like we just moved to a 4-3..

    If we don't then Horton needs to start looking. If we do then we need to bring in Garrett in the draft.

  • Tell me this is the same pumped up - cliche driven - happy go lucky coach you saw just a couple weeks ago....

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Hue-Jackson-press-conference---829/2d3fcdba-b408-4d9a-b9e4-c2e5e1b196ec

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #61

    @mudfly said:

    Tell me this is the same pumped up - cliche driven - happy go lucky coach you saw just a couple weeks ago....

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Hue-Jackson-press-conference---829/2d3fcdba-b408-4d9a-b9e4-c2e5e1b196ec

    Loved this bit:

    On if the Browns have someone in particular in mind to play in Kruger’s position:

    β€œWe are working on that."

  • @wargograw said:

    So why are you whining so loud about his getting cut? Hue'll figure it out.

    Im not whining about him getting cut....Ive been begging for that for 3 years now....

    Im bitching that they didnt have a player ready to replace him.

    Im bitching because they dont have another OLB and they just cut 2...

    Im bitching because I screamed and screamed to draft OLB's and they didnt and now we have none(but we DO have 10 receivers)(yay)

    Im bitching because OGBAH has been playing DE throughout camp and the preseason and TODAY they say he will play OLB...

    And, because of the above, Im bitching because its a clear indication that the coaching staff and FO are NOT remotely close to being on the same page....

    But Kruger?.....screw him....glad he's gone.......

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #62

    @mudfly said:

    Im not whining about him getting cut....Ive been begging for that for 3 years now....

    Im bitching that they didnt have a player ready to replace him.

    Im bitching because they dont have another OLB and they just cut 2...

    Maybe they really like Joe Schobert, Cam Johnson and Jason Neal.

    Im bitching because I screamed and screamed to draft OLB's and they didnt and now we have none(but we DO have 10 receivers)(yay)

    They drafted Schobert, picked up Johnson as a FA.

    Im bitching because OGBAH has been playing DE throughout camp and the preseason and TODAY they say he will play OLB...

    Well, if you know me, I put less emphasis on those positions labels than most. I expect him to be talented and versatile enough to handle either spot.

    And, because of the above, Im bitching because its a clear indication that the coaching staff and FO are NOT remotely close to being on the same page....

    I think the page that they are on is: Get rid of the dead weight......meaning Mingo and Kruger. And they are on the same page of: let the young guys play.....we can get as much production out of them as we did out of the guys we let go.....even if it doesn't seem to be a perfect fit. The young guys can grow into the job.

    Now, I may not wholly agree with this philosophy....but that is the plan....and they do seem to me to be on the same page with that plan....even if it doesn't look right to you.

    But Kruger?.....screw him....glad he's gone.......

  • @unsympathetic said:

    If you have a DE playing OLB who doesn't cover very much..

    Sounds like we just moved to a 4-3..

    If we don't then Horton needs to start looking. If we do then we need to bring in Garrett in the draft.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #63

    @texasag1969 said:

    If we don't then Horton needs to start looking. If we do then we need to bring in Garrett in the draft.

    There will be a lot of cuts made after this next week. There could be an OLB out there that the Browns may want to snag.

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
    #64

    Hopefully we do run a base 4-3. I mean look at what our DE rotation would be....orchard, ogbah, nassib. Im k with that.