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  • Ray Horton is seriously in trouble with the current personnel, and that's not his fault. We're always told whenever we get a new regime that it will take time, and that remains true now. It would be unfair to judge our defensive coordinator's performance based on this year alone because he wasn't exactly provided a full cupboard. Add to that we cut players like Dansby, and we're a young team with largely unproven players. Remember last year when we had the most expensive defense in the damn league? It's not like we had an owner that didn't want to spend. Now we're going with a youth movement, so we know it's going to take a while before we can fully evaluate their play.

    And I have bad news. Our defense will probably get worse before it gets better. The reason? Depth. Injuries happen to every team, and when they start to mount on a team like ours, they become especially devastating because we don't have the depth of better teams. We'll need another year or two of quality drafting and occasional free agent signing, and then we can have a product that we're proud of. This is where the "it takes time and patience" adage comes into play. We finally have a coach that other teams wanted, and we have a DC with experience. Perhaps now we can FINALLY give a regime the proper amount of time to build our bedraggled franchise.

    I don't want to sound like it's all doom and gloom either. There's a chance, albeit small, that multiple young players on our team can ascend to a higher level of play and anchor our defense. Players like Nate Orchard, Chris Kirksey, Carl Nassib, Emmanuel Ogbah, Joe Schobert and others can explode onto the scene and catch people by surprise. It happens in the league every year, maybe it's our turn?

    As I have said in multiple posts, the player on the defense I'm most interested in watching is Danny Shelton. Growing pains should be over. The rookie season is in the past. We've heard about his dedication to losing weight and training in various forms of martial arts, so NOW is the time to prove we weren't total idiots by drafting a player at #12 that MANY people didn't like in the football world. Not everyone was against it, not by far, but I remember reading enough analysts say that we drafted a two-down player too high, and the fact that he got pushed around by better teams worried them. He hasn't yet begun his second year, so it's far too early to judge him, but early reports are NOT good. Shelton did force one fumble that was VERY nice, but other than that, he's been a disappointment. And what's scary is, he's been ineffective against second team players. We need to snap the first round curse, and it needs to start with this guy.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #98

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Ray Horton is seriously in trouble with the current personnel, and that's not his fault.

    Disagree that Ray is in trouble precisely because it is not "not his fault"... at least not now... because we are starting "2nd string" depth virtually across the board.

    He has to show two things:

    1. that he can maximize what he has... whether it's through more 4-3... great situational use of players... whatever... he has to maximize what he has.
    2. that his staff can develop players.

    On Danny... stats are going to be hard for him to come by with every play starting with a double team of #55. Just not enough on his flanks to keep that from happening.

  • I hope Pettine is on a yacht full of booze, broads and cigars throwing strikes at his JFF dartboard.

    Zombo

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    Zombo said:

    I hope Pettine is on a yacht full of booze, broads and cigars throwing strikes at his JFF dartboard.

    Zombo

    How many ex coaches are the Browns still paying, I wonder.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by

    I'm just looking for them to play Danny and Meder in the middle of a four man line most of the time.

  • I'm just looking for them to play Danny and Meder in the middle of a four man line most of the time.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by

    @calfoxwc said:

    I'm just looking for them to play Danny and Meder in the middle of a four man line most of the time.

    That would be my wish.....

  • stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by

    We should play Scooby more and develop him....

  • @calfoxwc said:

    I'm just looking for them to play Danny and Meder in the middle of a four man line most of the time.

    That would be my wish.....

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    @mudfly said:

    That would be my wish.....

    Me too. Just don't want them to keep pluging square pegs into round holes. Switch the D to fit the players.

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73

    I really like Orchard & Meder on the same side to hopefully seal one side up..Orch finished last season working well with Jamie. We need a season of it..

  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by

    And the D didn't miss a beat without him

  • And the D didn't miss a beat without him

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    And the D didn't miss a beat without him

    I would agree,,,,

    They were terrible with him and equally terrible without....

    Heck, they almost looked "ok"....(almost)....against the Bears 2's......

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    And the D didn't miss a beat without him

    I would agree,,,,

    They were terrible with him and equally terrible without....

    Heck, they almost looked "ok"....(almost)....against the Bears 2's......

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73

    @mudfly said:

    I would agree,,,,

    They were terrible with him and equally terrible without....

    Heck, they almost looked "ok"....(almost)....against the Bears 2's......

    Rumor has it, Mud will be at mardi-gra in N.O. running the streets naked with #99 painted on his Front & Back? (go on, you deserve it 😉) Party a little