Dumpster diving
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Lol at the ghoolie dark side. Obi-Zombo and Darth Ghoolie....
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Zombo said:
Just not going to give these new guys credit for anything are you?
I think they are doing great. Excited.
Z
I'll give them credit for being lucky- and being aware that Colquitt was still out there. If some other team had beat us to the punch- we would have had shit punting (and our incredibly valuable 2018 low 4th round pick). Um, that's worth about 55 points on the draft value chart. However, the shit punting would have blended right in with the rest of the shit on the team.
FWIW, it's probably unheard of for a team to have 14 draft picks- and have every one of them make the final roster. It's either they had the best draft of all time, or Sashi and Depo are so arrogant they're refusing to admit they made even ONE mistake in the draft. The other possibility is (and I'd refuse to believe it) the overall talent on the Browns before they took over was worse than the 0-16 Lions. So think about that for a minute.PS- I'll also give them credit for clearing out a lot of future cap room, remains to be seen how they use it.I'll give them credit for being lucky- and being aware that Colquitt was still out there. If some other team had beat us to the punch- we would have had shit punting (and our incredibly valuable 2018 low 4th round pick). Um, that's worth about 55 points on the draft value chart. However, the shit punting would have blended right in with the rest of the shit on the team.
FWIW, it's probably unheard of for a team to have 14 draft picks- and have every one of them make the final roster. It's either they had the best draft of all time, or Sashi and Depo are so arrogant they're refusing to admit they made even ONE mistake in the draft. The other possibility is (and I'd refuse to believe it) the overall talent on the Browns before they took over was worse than the 0-16 Lions. So think about that for a minute.PS- I'll also give them credit for clearing out a lot of future cap room, remains to be seen how they use it.We got a 4th rounder for a punter. Enough said.
As for the roster, I didn't think we would cut any of the draft picks, but I thought they might stash a couple on the IR, I thought Louis and Caldwell were candidates.
Nassib and Kendrid ALREADY look like they are finds for where they were drafted. Oggie and Coleman are starters, so we will quickly find out what we have there. I think they will fare better than the guys we had at their respective positions last year.
Schobert, Drango and Scooby EARNED their roster spots with solid play.
That leaves Shon Coleman, Caldwell and the three wide receivers as guys they kept around solely because they think they can add a lot to the club in the future. Remember the future? It is what the 2016 Browns are all about. Unless you miss those 3-13 2015 Browns with no direction. One of those rookie WRS will have to step up and become the 4th WR (5th when Josh is back) that will be an interesting competition, competition is always good. The other two can sit inactive every week. Somebody has to.
Zombo
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We're currently into (pick a number, I've lost count) blow it all up- rebuild.
PS- my prediction- by the break, plenty of fickle fans will have drifted over to the Ghoolie Dark Side. "let the anger and frustration FLOW through you son."
Three things...
- This is rebuild #1 for this FO.
- This rebuild is different than any that preceded it.
- No one is seriously predicting playoffs for this team... and that's different, too.
Now are they doing it right? Is "different" going to be better? Fuck if I know... but I will be watching for signs. And in the absence of their being illuminated by "W's", I think I will have to look very hard.
As for the Dark Side? I doubt it will get crowded. I don't think expectations will be high enough to drive folks that direction... not this year.
Three things...
- This is rebuild #1 for this FO.
- This rebuild is different than any that preceded it.
- No one is seriously predicting playoffs for this team... and that's different, too.
Now are they doing it right? Is "different" going to be better? Fuck if I know... but I will be watching for signs. And in the absence of their being illuminated by "W's", I think I will have to look very hard.
As for the Dark Side? I doubt it will get crowded. I don't think expectations will be high enough to drive folks that direction... not this year.
Three things...
- This is rebuild #1 for this FO. YES!
- This rebuild is different than any that preceded it. YES!
- No one is seriously predicting playoffs for this team... and that's different, too. Yyyy ... UH OH. The Great Zomboni releases his reknowned predictions this week, and he has never NOT predicted my Brownies in the playoffs. (And he was right in 2002!!) So why change now ... Tradition is fun.
Zombo
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The "in" thing right now is to mope about cuts to a team that wasn't going to do shit anyway. Rebuilding is the name of the game.
Yeah LFS, it feels like a sorority house full of estrogen in here lately.
OK Flugs- and this is addressed to Zombo too- here's where I'm coming from. Can't remember who, but someone had a sig line- "CLEVELAND BROWNS, REBUILDING SINCE 1999, WHY STOP NOW?" Sorry, but this crap has just gotten really, really, REALLY old for me. Hell, the Panthers made the Super Bowl, tore the team down, went to another Super Bowl, and the Browns have done jack shit in the meantime.
We're currently into (pick a number, I've lost count) blow it all up- rebuild. Anyone who thinks we're going to win more than a couple games this year- well, Zombo- if a Browns fan believes that- sell them some prime Florida Swampland real estate. But yeah- THIS time it's gonna be different. Yada, yada, yada. Well f**king SHOW ME this time it's going to be different, before I invest an ounce of energy in belief. MHO? Haslam is taking a huge risk. Putting a bean counter (Sashi) and a baseball analytics guy (DePodesta) in charge. If it blows up in his face- he's wearing the village idiot hat in the entire NFL.
So we're being asked to be patient- yet again. I suppose we don't have any choice in the matter. I'm not buying in until I see the progress is for real this time. & I'm not getting my hopes up to have them crushed for the 10th + time. Patience? As the one Buzzard said to the other Buzzard- "patience my ass, I'm gonna kill something."
PS- my prediction- by the break, plenty of fickle fans will have drifted over to the Ghoolie Dark Side. "let the anger and frustration FLOW through you son."
OK Flugs- and this is addressed to Zombo too- here's where I'm coming from. Can't remember who, but someone had a sig line- "CLEVELAND BROWNS, REBUILDING SINCE 1999, WHY STOP NOW?" Sorry, but this crap has just gotten really, really, REALLY old for me. Hell, the Panthers made the Super Bowl, tore the team down, went to another Super Bowl, and the Browns have done jack shit in the meantime.
We're currently into (pick a number, I've lost count) blow it all up- rebuild. Anyone who thinks we're going to win more than a couple games this year- well, Zombo- if a Browns fan believes that- sell them some prime Florida Swampland real estate. But yeah- THIS time it's gonna be different. Yada, yada, yada. Well f**king SHOW ME this time it's going to be different, before I invest an ounce of energy in belief. MHO? Haslam is taking a huge risk. Putting a bean counter (Sashi) and a baseball analytics guy (DePodesta) in charge. If it blows up in his face- he's wearing the village idiot hat in the entire NFL.
So we're being asked to be patient- yet again. I suppose we don't have any choice in the matter. I'm not buying in until I see the progress is for real this time. & I'm not getting my hopes up to have them crushed for the 10th + time. Patience? As the one Buzzard said to the other Buzzard- "patience my ass, I'm gonna kill something."
PS- my prediction- by the break, plenty of fickle fans will have drifted over to the Ghoolie Dark Side. "let the anger and frustration FLOW through you son."
Larry, I get your frustration knowing you've followed this team forever. That said, you're blaming guys that weren't even here for why you feel this way today. I'm just trying to help you channel where this needs to be placed.
That's why I told you nobody has a pistol to your head when I merely asked you why is THIS brand new regime all of a sudden is the one that deserves all the blame for previous sins of others before this team has played its first regular season game. After fessing up to how much money you're paying out for an entertainment value that feels like food poisoning - you proceeded to tell me you just wanted to be "realistic" after I read another one of your "this team will be lucky to win 1 game" predictions. That looks like a lot of frustration clouding what you're trying to get across. Of course, we should be well trained to for gotta see it to believe it. But has that ever been a Cleveland Browns fan signed up for since the 70s? Fan isn't just a prefix of fantastic. It's a prefix of something where words like realistic don't apply.
The reason I GET where Mud is coming from is because he tried to tell everyone that wanted 100% of all the blame on Pettine and staff that they were working around a ton of past and present front office land mines. He had a passionate argument so I can't blame him for asking why does THIS head Coach deserve excuses the last one didn't deserve? Then again, we haven't even played our first regular season game...
Again, you're blasting this regime for their efforts/desire to correct way more land mines than they should have inherited.
Who ended up drafting Justin Gilbert instead of Khalil Mack? Do you even fathom how much that one 4th overall pick could have SOLVED our problem with the pass rush? Some of the previous regimes were going O for 2 in the first round on multiple occasions. Yeah, blame this regime for why that kicked us back so far behind the competition today.
This regime increased our first draft volume up to 14 selections. In the process, they also bulked up next year's draft volume (including another 1st and 3rd round pick). Now, they're trading sissies in mini skirts to Pittsburgh and Carolina for 2018 picks. That's called vision that our previous deaf, dumb and blind running the show couldn't do but they sho played a mean pinball.
This regime is still bringing in upgrades over what was here. If you're watching a 400 meter race why freak out when they're only 20 meters into it or before the race even starts? That's what you've been doing all off season and into the preseason. Do you really miss Ray Farmer or the tea sipping fag before him that drafted Bark Mingo in the first round? Yeah, if the guy can't tackle any body on film at the college level - you MIGHT want to red flag that sucker in upper round 1.
This regime is getting rid of the Manziels, Gilberts and Bark but no bitesies that the previous regimes brought here. Haven't you been complaining about those 3 guys forever? The new regime actually received exchange value for Gilbert within our own division and from New England. That's a Harvard intellect pulling that off.
It's not like anyone in here is predicting flawless football in 2016. That said, how many have canceled DirecTV? Season Tickets? Road trips? That means we have a lot of fans that want to see what this team win regardless of how cool it is to pretend the 2016 season is a complete waste of time. Does anyone really stop life every Sunday afternoon because they think their favorite team is going to get completely rathoused all game long? No. Somewhere deep down, they feel that "on any given Sunday" or "this may be the day it all changes." And practice makes perfect when we think of how many times we rinsed and repeated that sucker since 1999. Every once in a while, we pull a 2002 or a 2007 season out of our ass. THAT is why you're paying cake to see this team play this year Larry.
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The Browns will no longer keep building the Browns' house on weak and shifting sands.
They are starting with a solid foundation for once and for all.
They have drafted differently, and have built the team differently.
guys who LOVE THE GAME, and have the work ethic, lockerroom presense, character
and toughness, football IQ.
If you don't fit, don't let the door hit. They drafted players that DO fit, so they are keeping em.
Exciting stuff !
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The Browns will no longer keep building the Browns' house on weak and shifting sands.
They are starting with a solid foundation for once and for all.
They have drafted differently, and have built the team differently.
guys who LOVE THE GAME, and have the work ethic, lockerroom presense, character
and toughness, football IQ.
If you don't fit, don't let the door hit. They drafted players that DO fit, so they are keeping em.
Exciting stuff !
The Browns will no longer keep building the Browns' house on weak and shifting sands.
They are starting with a solid foundation for once and for all.
They have drafted differently, and have built the team differently.
guys who LOVE THE GAME, and have the work ethic, lockerroom presense, character
and toughness, football IQ.
If you don't fit, don't let the door hit. They drafted players that DO fit, so they are keeping em.
Exciting stuff !
Thatta boy Cal! If you're going to go into a game on Sunday would you rather have a game face like this or one that says we need to forfeit so we I complain and brag I predicted it?
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The Browns will no longer keep building the Browns' house on weak and shifting sands.
They are starting with a solid foundation for once and for all.
They have drafted differently, and have built the team differently.
guys who LOVE THE GAME, and have the work ethic, lockerroom presense, character
and toughness, football IQ.
If you don't fit, don't let the door hit. They drafted players that DO fit, so they are keeping em.
Exciting stuff !
The Browns will no longer keep building the Browns' house on weak and shifting sands.
They are starting with a solid foundation for once and for all.
They have drafted differently, and have built the team differently.
guys who LOVE THE GAME, and have the work ethic, lockerroom presense, character
and toughness, football IQ.
If you don't fit, don't let the door hit. They drafted players that DO fit, so they are keeping em.
Exciting stuff !
Exactly.
If one play defined this team this preseason it was our 14th of 14 draft picks stuffing a goal line stand in the second half of the last preseason game to make the team.
And you didn't have to be one of their draft picks to make the team, look at guys like Dominique Alexander, Cam Johnson and Trey Howard who played their way on to the team with hard work and determination.
This was a test. Soft as Shit MIngo ... Gone. Afraid To Make a Tackle Lee ... Gone. Too Slow To Get To the QB Anymore Kruger ... Gone. Whiny Entitled Bitch Gilbert ... Gone.
Young guys willing to put it all on the line to have an NFL career ... here.
That's who we are growing with. Cut down the dead wood and build, build, build.
Start over with only the right guys who fit the mold and work hard. It's as simple as that.
Those that aren't good enough ... we gotta whole 'nother draft next year ... 2 first rounders ... 2 second rounders ... a third rounder ... three fouth rounders ... three fifth rounders.
There's a 11 guys coming in next year that want to take your job ... better not rest on your laurels now that you've made the team .... get out there and work your ass off for a shot at a second contract.
Zombo
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The Browns will no longer keep building the Browns' house on weak and shifting sands.
They are starting with a solid foundation for once and for all.
They have drafted differently, and have built the team differently.
guys who LOVE THE GAME, and have the work ethic, lockerroom presense, character
and toughness, football IQ.
If you don't fit, don't let the door hit. They drafted players that DO fit, so they are keeping em.
Exciting stuff !
Exactly.
If one play defined this team this preseason it was our 14th of 14 draft picks stuffing a goal line stand in the second half of the last preseason game to make the team.
And you didn't have to be one of their draft picks to make the team, look at guys like Dominique Alexander, Cam Johnson and Trey Howard who played their way on to the team with hard work and determination.
This was a test. Soft as Shit MIngo ... Gone. Afraid To Make a Tackle Lee ... Gone. Too Slow To Get To the QB Anymore Kruger ... Gone. Whiny Entitled Bitch Gilbert ... Gone.
Young guys willing to put it all on the line to have an NFL career ... here.
That's who we are growing with. Cut down the dead wood and build, build, build.
Start over with only the right guys who fit the mold and work hard. It's as simple as that.
Those that aren't good enough ... we gotta whole 'nother draft next year ... 2 first rounders ... 2 second rounders ... a third rounder ... three fouth rounders ... three fifth rounders.
There's a 11 guys coming in next year that want to take your job ... better not rest on your laurels now that you've made the team .... get out there and work your ass off for a shot at a second contract.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Exactly.
If one play defined this team this preseason it was our 14th of 14 draft picks stuffing a goal line stand in the second half of the last preseason game to make the team.
And you didn't have to be one of their draft picks to make the team, look at guys like Dominique Alexander, Cam Johnson and Trey Howard who played their way on to the team with hard work and determination.
This was a test. Soft as Shit MIngo ... Gone. Afraid To Make a Tackle Lee ... Gone. Too Slow To Get To the QB Anymore Kruger ... Gone. Whiny Entitled Bitch Gilbert ... Gone.
Young guys willing to put it all on the line to have an NFL career ... here.
That's who we are growing with. Cut down the dead wood and build, build, build.
Start over with only the right guys who fit the mold and work hard. It's as simple as that.
Those that aren't good enough ... we gotta whole 'nother draft next year ... 2 first rounders ... 2 second rounders ... a third rounder ... three fouth rounders ... three fifth rounders.
There's a 11 guys coming in next year that want to take your job ... better not rest on your laurels now that you've made the team .... get out there and work your ass off for a shot at a second contract.
Zombo
It's refreshing to read guys that get the refreshing changes adding draft volume while removing bad investments and entitled complacency in here.
Guinness on Flugel + Joe Thomas jersey on Ghoolie = Welcome to Nashville
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hey you blamed pettine. i'll blame hue. you blamed farmer and i'll blame sushi and depoopa.
who's right in the end when it all turns to shit anyway?
that's why hiring these 'project' guys is insane. you have enuff money to build truck stops up and down and through the midwest but 'let's' be cautious and go with some kids and a dream.
fuck that roll open up the bank roll for a proven GM and a proven HC and be done with it.
"let's wait and see!" "it's exciting!" man, what are you 25 years old? when you hit my age after watching this shit show for the last 4 decades last thing i wanna hear is "wait and see!"
been there. done that.
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Three things...
- This is rebuild #1 for this FO.
- This rebuild is different than any that preceded it.
- No one is seriously predicting playoffs for this team... and that's different, too.
Now are they doing it right? Is "different" going to be better? Fuck if I know... but I will be watching for signs. And in the absence of their being illuminated by "W's", I think I will have to look very hard.
As for the Dark Side? I doubt it will get crowded. I don't think expectations will be high enough to drive folks that direction... not this year.
Three things...
- This is rebuild #1 for this FO. YES!
- This rebuild is different than any that preceded it. YES!
- No one is seriously predicting playoffs for this team... and that's different, too. Yyyy ... UH OH. The Great Zomboni releases his reknowned predictions this week, and he has never NOT predicted my Brownies in the playoffs. (And he was right in 2002!!) So why change now ... Tradition is fun.
Zombo
Zombo said:
3. No one is seriously predicting playoffs for this team... and that's different, too. Yyyy ... UH OH. The Great Zomboni releases his reknowned predictions this week, and he has never NOT predicted my Brownies in the playoffs. (And he was right in 2002!!) So why change now ... Tradition is fun.
Yes, it is... thus my use of "seriously"...
May TGZ live forever!
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hey you blamed pettine. i'll blame hue. you blamed farmer and i'll blame sushi and depoopa.
who's right in the end when it all turns to shit anyway?
that's why hiring these 'project' guys is insane. you have enuff money to build truck stops up and down and through the midwest but 'let's' be cautious and go with some kids and a dream.
fuck that roll open up the bank roll for a proven GM and a proven HC and be done with it.
"let's wait and see!" "it's exciting!" man, what are you 25 years old? when you hit my age after watching this shit show for the last 4 decades last thing i wanna hear is "wait and see!"
been there. done that.
hey you blamed pettine. i'll blame hue. you blamed farmer and i'll blame sushi and depoopa.
who's right in the end when it all turns to shit anyway?
that's why hiring these 'project' guys is insane. you have enuff money to build truck stops up and down and through the midwest but 'let's' be cautious and go with some kids and a dream.
fuck that roll open up the bank roll for a proven GM and a proven HC and be done with it.
"let's wait and see!" "it's exciting!" man, what are you 25 years old? when you hit my age after watching this shit show for the last 4 decades last thing i wanna hear is "wait and see!"
been there. done that.
I didn't blame anyone for us improving to 7-9 in 2014. No reason to during temporary progress. And, my final verdict on Pettine in January was it wasn't all his fault. I wrote a gigantic post explaining why a bigger pictured conclusion was necessary as well as crediting Mud for part of the about face.
So how many regular season games have we got clobbered to justify your blaming of Hue prior to our first regular season game? You might want to get your underwear off before you power shoot...
You know I enjoy the Hell out of you Mik but do you ever read why I said what I said before jumping all over it? Remember when I told you Roger Goodell would win the power struggle with Tom Brady? Did I fess up when I was wrong? And now that I was actually right, have you fessed up? I know you know what I'm talking about here because you had me LMAO 1 hour after I guaranteed Roger Goodfella wasn't going to lose a power struggle with any player.
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when you hit my age after watching this shit show for the last 4 decades last thing i wanna hear is "wait and see!" Mik
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only four decades? Pouty young-timer. I was an avid Browns fan since I was too young to remember.I went to a Browns game before I was born, and I am retired now. Get rid of the tic, Mik! Get out of the box, Tox !This is a profound different direction for the Browns - it's what a lot of folks have thought was needed for a long time.The past no longer defines the present. -
Released names that caught my eye... off updated "wire": http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000691151/article/nfl-roster-cuts-tracker-teams-trimming-to-53-players
TBH, not even sure why on some, but some memory somewhere (hopefully good) was stirred. Not going to vet them further than whether their position matches an area of strength for the releasing team because by the time I did, it'll all be over. I've bolded the ones I think pass this test.
AZ : CB Harlan Miller
BLT: C Matt Skura
BUF: LB Kroy Biermann, CB Mario Butler, RB Dan Herron, LB Manny Lawson, OT Chris Martin, G Cyril Richardson, LB Max Valles
CAR: G David Yankey
CHI: DE Ego Ferguson
CIN: OT Aaron Epps
DNV: RB Ronnie Hillman
DET: DT Caraun Reid
HOU: OG Karim Barton, WR Cecil Shorts III
IND:
JAX: LB Jordan Tripp
KC : OL Reid Fragel
LA : DE Ian Seau
MIA: G Jamil Douglas
MN : G Willie Beavers
NE : RB Tyler Gaffney, OL Chris Barker
NO : C Jack Allen, T Khalif Barnes
NYG: OL Ryan Seymour, DT Louis Nix, CB Leon McFadden, CB Michael Hunter
NYJ: TE Jace Amaro, CB Dee Milliner, RB Antone Smith, FB Tommy Bohanon, G Craig Watts, LB Trevor Reilly, LB Taiwan Jones
OAK: LB John Lotulelei, DE Greg Townsend Jr.
PHI: S Ed Reynolds - intrigues me as a hybrid LS/S player
PTG: LB Travis Feeney
SD : OLB Ben Gardner, FB Chris Swain
SEA: G Jahri Evans
TB : LB Luke Rhodes
TN : OL Jeremiah Poutasi, OL Will Poehls, LB Curtis Grant, CB Kalan Reed, LB Justin Staples
WSH: LB Lynden Trail
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I'm wih Larry on this.. I'm sick of being asked to be patient after one shit show to the next.. sorry if that doesnt jive with any of you folks here.. but I'm not here to kiss anyones ass just because they believe a would be bean counter and a "Anal-Littiks" guy from baseball is gonna turn it around.. I'm in My early 50's.. I'm getting sick of the same old song and dance year in and year out... I'm not up there with Larry and Mike yet.. but not far behind... I'm sick of being asked to... "wait"
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it....is......not....the.....same......old.............song...........and............dance.
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it....is......not....the.....same......old.............song...........and............dance.
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Released names that caught my eye... off updated "wire": http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000691151/article/nfl-roster-cuts-tracker-teams-trimming-to-53-players
TBH, not even sure why on some, but some memory somewhere (hopefully good) was stirred. Not going to vet them further than whether their position matches an area of strength for the releasing team because by the time I did, it'll all be over. I've bolded the ones I think pass this test.
AZ : CB Harlan Miller
BLT: C Matt Skura
BUF: LB Kroy Biermann, CB Mario Butler, RB Dan Herron, LB Manny Lawson, OT Chris Martin, G Cyril Richardson, LB Max Valles
CAR: G David Yankey
CHI: DE Ego Ferguson
CIN: OT Aaron Epps
DNV: RB Ronnie Hillman
DET: DT Caraun Reid
HOU: OG Karim Barton, WR Cecil Shorts III
IND:
JAX: LB Jordan Tripp
KC : OL Reid Fragel
LA : DE Ian Seau
MIA: G Jamil Douglas
MN : G Willie Beavers
NE : RB Tyler Gaffney, OL Chris Barker
NO : C Jack Allen, T Khalif Barnes
NYG: OL Ryan Seymour, DT Louis Nix, CB Leon McFadden, CB Michael Hunter
NYJ: TE Jace Amaro, CB Dee Milliner, RB Antone Smith, FB Tommy Bohanon, G Craig Watts, LB Trevor Reilly, LB Taiwan Jones
OAK: LB John Lotulelei, DE Greg Townsend Jr.
PHI: S Ed Reynolds - intrigues me as a hybrid LS/S player
PTG: LB Travis Feeney
SD : OLB Ben Gardner, FB Chris Swain
SEA: G Jahri Evans
TB : LB Luke Rhodes
TN : OL Jeremiah Poutasi, OL Will Poehls, LB Curtis Grant, CB Kalan Reed, LB Justin Staples
WSH: LB Lynden Trail
Released names that caught my eye... off updated "wire": http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000691151/article/nfl-roster-cuts-tracker-teams-trimming-to-53-players
TBH, not even sure why on some, but some memory somewhere (hopefully good) was stirred. Not going to vet them further than whether their position matches an area of strength for the releasing team because by the time I did, it'll all be over. I've bolded the ones I think pass this test.
AZ : CB Harlan Miller
BUF: LB Kroy Biermann, CB Mario Butler, LB Max Valles
CIN: OT Aaron Epps
JAX: LB Jordan Tripp
KC : OL Reid Fragel
LA : DE Ian Seau
NYJ: TE Jace Amaro, CB Dee Milliner,
OAK: LB John Lotulelei, DE Greg Townsend Jr. ***Trade for both***
PHI: S Ed Reynolds - intrigues me as a hybrid LS/S player
PTG: LB Travis Feeney
SEA: G Jahri Evans
TN : OL Jeremiah Poutasi,
Combo of any of them would suit me Tour. Some rooks can fall to PS
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Offensive linemen off the trash heap, even if they are just depth, would be nice.
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it....is......not....the.....same......old.............song...........and............dance.
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it....is......not....the.....same......old.............song...........and............dance.
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