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Why we will all see (if we want to...) the terrific difference in the Browns the first game

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  • Mudfly MudflyM Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Dedicated One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    And Hue made some brilliant moves and adjustments today....BRILLIANT!!!

    Loved the creative play calling and OBVIOUSLY superior offensive mind....Fecking LOVED IT!

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      @calfoxwc said:

      The Browns played tough. Shelton drove his guy deep into the backfield and broke

      up a play. Knocked down passes, the run defense showed kick-ass ability...a lot of times.

      Sometimes, not so much. It will come together, my concern is the secondary and RGIII as far

      as lack of ability goes. About half the teams in the nfl will lose this week.

      The secondary is suspect, and RGIII may not see the field quickly at all. Not good.

      I said before, it might take a few games for the team to gel. They have a bunch of young players,

      Wentz was getting pressured, bigtime hit... at least one sack..

      so they started getting the ball out quicker, and RGIII may not be up to the task. we may

      see McCown a lot sooner than some think.

      and ghoolish the bitchfreak gloats that they struggled... but there was a lot of pressure on Wentz. We never got

      to see that before. The offense is still out of sync. So freaking what. Tiamsies likes to run his mouth about

      how much he "knows". RGIII had all sorts of time most of the time - he just stands back there and tries to see the field.

      IMHO, he may have a weakness that never goes away. May just have to draft a first round best qb pick next draft.

      Tiam - you loved Goff. Got news for ya - Wentz, MY pick, is the better qb.

      Guess what, Tiamsies pretend know-it-allsies? MY qb in the draft STARTED, PLAYED GREAT AND WON.

      Your goff guy, not so much. he's THIRD STRING last I looked. Behind Case Keenum and Sean Mannion.

      You should be embarrassed. You aren't smart to flap your jaws bragging. LOLLOLLOL.

      Oh, and Paxton Lynch, Ghoolishhumpsfish's "superstar" Paxton Lynch is the second string qb ...behind...

      wait for it......................................... a 7th round draft pick.

      Meatheads. I nailed it with Wentz. Pardon me, but your bragging is sagging.

      Cal, Shelton look like an out of shape pillsbury doughboy, and he is no good.

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      MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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      @diehardbrownsfan said:

      Cal, Shelton look like an out of shape pillsbury doughboy, and he is no good.

      and very fat....very very.....fat.....t!

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        I know - but it had to be done. Had to change the structure of the team, the culture of the team

        with young, handpicked talent. If RGIII doesn't pan out, they can draft their bigtime qbnext year.

        Takes time to do that, nobody expects it all to come together the first game..

        not seriously.

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        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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        @calfoxwc said:

        I know - but it had to be done. Had to change the structure of the team, the culture of the team

        with young, handpicked talent. If RGIII doesn't pan out, they can draft their bigtime qbnext year.

        Takes time to do that, nobody expects it all to come together the first game..

        not seriously.

        somewhere in that is the epitaph on every brown's fan's tombstone.

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          The Browns played tough. Shelton drove his guy deep into the backfield and broke

          up a play. Knocked down passes, the run defense showed kick-ass ability...a lot of times.

          Sometimes, not so much. It will come together, my concern is the secondary and RGIII as far

          as lack of ability goes. About half the teams in the nfl will lose this week.

          The secondary is suspect, and RGIII may not see the field quickly at all. Not good.

          I said before, it might take a few games for the team to gel. They have a bunch of young players,

          Wentz was getting pressured, bigtime hit... at least one sack..

          so they started getting the ball out quicker, and RGIII may not be up to the task. we may

          see McCown a lot sooner than some think.

          and ghoolish the bitchfreak gloats that they struggled... but there was a lot of pressure on Wentz. We never got

          to see that before. The offense is still out of sync. So freaking what. Tiamsies likes to run his mouth about

          how much he "knows". RGIII had all sorts of time most of the time - he just stands back there and tries to see the field.

          IMHO, he may have a weakness that never goes away. May just have to draft a first round best qb pick next draft.

          Tiam - you loved Goff. Got news for ya - Wentz, MY pick, is the better qb.

          Guess what, Tiamsies pretend know-it-allsies? MY qb in the draft STARTED, PLAYED GREAT AND WON.

          Your goff guy, not so much. he's THIRD STRING last I looked. Behind Case Keenum and Sean Mannion.

          You should be embarrassed. You aren't smart to flap your jaws bragging. LOLLOLLOL.

          Oh, and Paxton Lynch, Ghoolishhumpsfish's "superstar" Paxton Lynch is the second string qb ...behind...

          wait for it......................................... a 7th round draft pick.

          Meatheads. I nailed it with Wentz. Pardon me, but your bragging is sagging.

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          RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on last edited by
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          @calfoxwc said:

          The Browns played tough. Shelton drove his guy deep into the backfield and broke

          up a play. Knocked down passes, the run defense showed kick-ass ability...a lot of times.

          Sometimes, not so much. It will come together, my concern is the secondary and RGIII as far

          as lack of ability goes. About half the teams in the nfl will lose this week.

          ?
          "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978
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            You should go back in your free time (there's a lot) and see who was one of the first to mention wentz. Then read the conversation between Tour and myself immediately following.

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            @tiamat63 said:

            You should go back in your free time (there's a lot) and see who was one of the first to mention wentz. Then read the conversation between Tour and myself immediately following.

            That's the other stupid thing you do. Do you twerk at yourself in the mirror or what?

            I don't have much free time at all. I work at the renovation house project of the gals, I cut wood, split wood,

            have to make hay again, started watching out in our woods for anybody who shouldn't be out there ready to

            try to hunt deer or squirrel, I stalk groundhogs because they have holes at two corners of the barn, out in

            the field, and under the pine trees. We baby-sit a friends kids..(single mom), she asked me to go with her to

            sell her older car to somebody from the other side of the state... I helped the neighbor fix his JD brushhog, I have to brush hog our big field again, and

            get ready to plant winter wheat, and we go out to dinner ever so often at our favorite steak place, play

            mystery adventure video games on the computer, and I have about 38 big trees to cut up and split from last year,

            we're going camping with friends/getting ready in a week, I have to resight in my two .22 rifles, I'm going to build

            ...or maybe buy, myself an AR-15 and I'm researching that, I mow the lawn if the Wife is too busy on the flip house,

            and I'm getting the combine ready to sell because I'm going to farm differently than the standard corn/soybean/roundup

            crap, we're going to put up a high tunnel greeenhouse, thinkin about putting in a pond...

            perhaps you should STFU, Tiam, or visit sometime and try to keep up with me, and I even had a new knee

            surgery last Dec and still not back in work all day shape.

            Plenty of time, no, Tiamsies. But I will make time for you to come out and go groundhog skeet shooting with me.

            (that's where you reach into the groundhog hole and pull it out of there, and you throw it up into the air for me.).

            I sneeze in your pimply direction, but have a nice day anyways.

            If you won't man up and do that, you're just a bigmouth sissyboy.

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              @calfoxwc said:

              Meatheads. I nailed it with Wentz. Pardon me, but your bragging is sagging.

              Isnt it kind of a meathead move to be bragging on how great your pick is and, at the very same time, a 100% supporter of the FO who didnt give him to you.....

              and instead, he gave you a WR with the droppies and stood by while your guy(the one they passed on) kicked our asses??

              Hahaha....you sure got the last laugh there.... 😉

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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              @mudfly said:

              Isnt it kind of a meathead move to be bragging on how great your pick is and, at the very same time, a 100% supporter of the FO who didnt give him to you.....

              and instead, he gave you a WR with the droppies and stood by while your guy(the one they passed on) kicked our asses??

              Hahaha....you sure got the last laugh there.... 😉

              haha. more than just Coleman. They drafted a bunch of guys, which they needed desperately.

              Notice how Ogbah, Nassib, Schobert...have made a difference? Get a grip, lol, the Eaglets

              didn't have the weaknesses to have to draft a lot of talent this year.

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                @tiamat63 said:

                You should go back in your free time (there's a lot) and see who was one of the first to mention wentz. Then read the conversation between Tour and myself immediately following.

                That's the other stupid thing you do. Do you twerk at yourself in the mirror or what?

                I don't have much free time at all. I work at the renovation house project of the gals, I cut wood, split wood,

                have to make hay again, started watching out in our woods for anybody who shouldn't be out there ready to

                try to hunt deer or squirrel, I stalk groundhogs because they have holes at two corners of the barn, out in

                the field, and under the pine trees. We baby-sit a friends kids..(single mom), she asked me to go with her to

                sell her older car to somebody from the other side of the state... I helped the neighbor fix his JD brushhog, I have to brush hog our big field again, and

                get ready to plant winter wheat, and we go out to dinner ever so often at our favorite steak place, play

                mystery adventure video games on the computer, and I have about 38 big trees to cut up and split from last year,

                we're going camping with friends/getting ready in a week, I have to resight in my two .22 rifles, I'm going to build

                ...or maybe buy, myself an AR-15 and I'm researching that, I mow the lawn if the Wife is too busy on the flip house,

                and I'm getting the combine ready to sell because I'm going to farm differently than the standard corn/soybean/roundup

                crap, we're going to put up a high tunnel greeenhouse, thinkin about putting in a pond...

                perhaps you should STFU, Tiam, or visit sometime and try to keep up with me, and I even had a new knee

                surgery last Dec and still not back in work all day shape.

                Plenty of time, no, Tiamsies. But I will make time for you to come out and go groundhog skeet shooting with me.

                (that's where you reach into the groundhog hole and pull it out of there, and you throw it up into the air for me.).

                I sneeze in your pimply direction, but have a nice day anyways.

                If you won't man up and do that, you're just a bigmouth sissyboy.

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                @calfoxwc said:

                That's the other stupid thing you do. Do you twerk at yourself in the mirror or what?

                I don't have much free time at all. I work at the renovation house project of the gals, I cut wood, split wood,

                have to make hay again, started watching out in our woods for anybody who shouldn't be out there ready to

                try to hunt deer or squirrel, I stalk groundhogs because they have holes at two corners of the barn, out in

                the field, and under the pine trees. We baby-sit a friends kids..(single mom), she asked me to go with her to

                sell her older car to somebody from the other side of the state... I helped the neighbor fix his JD brushhog, I have to brush hog our big field again, and

                get ready to plant winter wheat, and we go out to dinner ever so often at our favorite steak place, play

                mystery adventure video games on the computer, and I have about 38 big trees to cut up and split from last year,

                we're going camping with friends/getting ready in a week, I have to resight in my two .22 rifles, I'm going to build

                ...or maybe buy, myself an AR-15 and I'm researching that, I mow the lawn if the Wife is too busy on the flip house,

                and I'm getting the combine ready to sell because I'm going to farm differently than the standard corn/soybean/roundup

                crap, we're going to put up a high tunnel greeenhouse, thinkin about putting in a pond...

                perhaps you should STFU, Tiam, or visit sometime and try to keep up with me, and I even had a new knee

                surgery last Dec and still not back in work all day shape.

                Plenty of time, no, Tiamsies. But I will make time for you to come out and go groundhog skeet shooting with me.

                (that's where you reach into the groundhog hole and pull it out of there, and you throw it up into the air for me.).

                I sneeze in your pimply direction, but have a nice day anyways.

                If you won't man up and do that, you're just a bigmouth sissyboy.

                That's all good and well but Tia was, in fact, the first to mention Wentz here so your bragging about wanting him is worthless in the discussion.

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                  miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                  so we're going on 'firsts'? lols?

                  ooh that's a setup. like throwing a watermelon in the strike zone.

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                    @tiamat63 said:

                    You should go back in your free time (there's a lot) and see who was one of the first to mention wentz. Then read the conversation between Tour and myself immediately following.

                    Tiat, you're a fucking dickhead.

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                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                    Tiat, you're a fucking dickhead.

                    No fucking shit.

                    and yes, Cal. I do twerk in front of the mirror. It's called squats and deadlifts - gotta check that progress, yo.

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                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      Squats and deadlifts. Man, I'm impressed.

                      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                        Squats and deadlifts. Man, I'm impressed.

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                        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                        @diehardbrownsfan said:

                        Squats and deadlifts. Man, I'm impressed.

                        You should hear what the mirror says.

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                          @calfoxwc said:

                          That's the other stupid thing you do. Do you twerk at yourself in the mirror or what?

                          I don't have much free time at all. I work at the renovation house project of the gals, I cut wood, split wood,

                          have to make hay again, started watching out in our woods for anybody who shouldn't be out there ready to

                          try to hunt deer or squirrel, I stalk groundhogs because they have holes at two corners of the barn, out in

                          the field, and under the pine trees. We baby-sit a friends kids..(single mom), she asked me to go with her to

                          sell her older car to somebody from the other side of the state... I helped the neighbor fix his JD brushhog, I have to brush hog our big field again, and

                          get ready to plant winter wheat, and we go out to dinner ever so often at our favorite steak place, play

                          mystery adventure video games on the computer, and I have about 38 big trees to cut up and split from last year,

                          we're going camping with friends/getting ready in a week, I have to resight in my two .22 rifles, I'm going to build

                          ...or maybe buy, myself an AR-15 and I'm researching that, I mow the lawn if the Wife is too busy on the flip house,

                          and I'm getting the combine ready to sell because I'm going to farm differently than the standard corn/soybean/roundup

                          crap, we're going to put up a high tunnel greeenhouse, thinkin about putting in a pond...

                          perhaps you should STFU, Tiam, or visit sometime and try to keep up with me, and I even had a new knee

                          surgery last Dec and still not back in work all day shape.

                          Plenty of time, no, Tiamsies. But I will make time for you to come out and go groundhog skeet shooting with me.

                          (that's where you reach into the groundhog hole and pull it out of there, and you throw it up into the air for me.).

                          I sneeze in your pimply direction, but have a nice day anyways.

                          If you won't man up and do that, you're just a bigmouth sissyboy.

                          That's all good and well but Tia was, in fact, the first to mention Wentz here so your bragging about wanting him is worthless in the discussion.

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                          @wargograw said:

                          That's all good and well but Tia was, in fact, the first to mention Wentz here so your bragging about wanting him is worthless in the discussion.

                          oh, probably, but he only mentioned it because Tour told him about Wentz. The only time tiamsies

                          is right about anything is when he agrees with Tour.

                          He was wrong about me having a lot of free time, too. And nobody was a bigger fan of Wentz than me.

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                            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                            Pure comedy.

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                              you're a joke alright. But thanks for dropping by to whine, TiamEeyore.

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                                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                                Oh, I see you have a cool, glittery pic there. That's nice. I guess I should share mine, huh?...

                                Brace yourselves, fellas... several posts incoming.

                                edit: By the by, your nicknames are still creepy as fuck.

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                                  tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                  So... this is the first mention of Carson Wentz on this board. 12/11/15 I've cropped the pics to save space.

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                                  For good measure a little later and because NOBODY had responded to my inquiry...

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                                  But wait... there's MORE!

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                                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                                    NOBODY actually breathed about the kid until TCPO acknowledged what I said and people took notice.

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                                      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                                      And the rebuttal to you saying I agree with Tour or he was the one to point Carson out... We didn't agree and no, he did not.

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                                        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                                        Let me remind you, this is the football board, old man. You're clearly confused on where you clicked. Stick to the poli board - there you can ignore facts and logic in an attempt to win arguments. Plus, I simply don't give a shit about politics. You didn't chime in until waaaaay later.

                                        To clarify, I cooled on Wentz. Tour pointed out that I should pay keen attention to Goff's anticipation for his throws during the pre draft process. Which during that process I noted Jared was ahead of Carson in that regard. I felt Wentz a smart enough and adaptable kid to take to good coaching, nose in a playbook and perhaps his physical gifts could elevate his play to make up for the short comings early on.

                                        Either way, I would have been Happy with Goff, Wentz, or the trade down with us getting any type of impact player so long as that player made a god damn contribution and a difference (in time).

                                        Marcus Mariota looked like the second coming of Christ week 1 of last year. Carson may very well have experienced some growth, but I'm not going to cry over our trade out and passing on him. I do not and never envisioned

                                        him being Andrew Luck 2.0 and that was the last QB I remember seeing within moments and praying we'd fuck up vs Indy for the #1.

                                        So be it if we build the team with young players and trash this year. So be it. As I've said earlier, a proper tanking, no half measures. But do not prop up a QB class if its weak.

                                        Wentz looked decent today, but its game 1 of a long career.

                                        edit: I'd also like to say this is one of the more annoying and childish things I've ever done. But it a) proves Cal wrong ... 😎 well, that's about it.

                                        Wentz is no better a QB than Goff. If Carson goes the way of RG3 after his rookie year and Jared takes the Aaron Rodgers route, what then? Placing an assessment on a QB this early is beyond

                                        stupid. I guess that's my point.

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