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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      A Game of Thrones's bastards comparison... well done.

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        @flyingfooldoug said:

        I'm pulling for the crash cart

        You mean the meat wagon? Yes, that is always where my sentiments lie when our AFCN counterparts play each other.

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        @the-gipper said:

        You mean the meat wagon? Yes, that is always where my sentiments lie when our AFCN counterparts play each other.

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          @flyingfooldoug said:

          I'm pulling for the crash cart

          You mean the meat wagon? Yes, that is always where my sentiments lie when our AFCN counterparts play each other.

          2015-09-27T230322Z_1_MTZEB9RCVXM5O_RTRFI

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          flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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          @the-gipper said:

          You mean the meat wagon? Yes, that is always where my sentiments lie when our AFCN counterparts play each other.

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          Go MRI!

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            As far as I know the Cleveland Browns is the only team that's given birth to half it's own division.

            Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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              As far as I know the Cleveland Browns is the only team that's given birth to half it's own division.

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              StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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              @the-cysko-kid said:

              As far as I know the Cleveland Browns is the only team that's given birth to half it's own division.

              The most pure, untarnished team in the division are those stainless Steelers.lol

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                StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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                I cant bring myself to wish an opposing player gets hurt and carted off...probably because I have no reason to be bitter I guess.

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                  @mjp28 said:

                  Cincinnati v Baltimore

                  Battle of the former spouses, doesn't get much messier. Who do you root against more?

                  Not former spouses. Bastards. Both literally and figuratively.

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                  mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Not former spouses. Bastards. Both literally and figuratively.

                  Former spouses could be bastards too. 😉

                  Still what a legacy!

                  GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                    As far as I know the Cleveland Browns is the only team that's given birth to half it's own division.

                    The most pure, untarnished team in the division are those stainless Steelers.lol

                    2rrrk08.jpg

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    @stinkhole said:

                    The most pure, untarnished team in the division are those stainless Steelers.lol

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                    The Ravens never used to be the Browns. But they were spawned by the Browns.

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                      I cant bring myself to wish an opposing player gets hurt and carted off...probably because I have no reason to be bitter I guess.

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @stinkhole said:

                      I cant bring myself to wish an opposing player gets hurt and carted off...probably because I have no reason to be bitter I guess.

                      I don't really wish it either...its just smack talk. But it doesn't make me regretful when it happens merely because so many Browns players have had that happen to them. So its just a matter of equity.

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                        @stinkhole said:

                        The most pure, untarnished team in the division are those stainless Steelers.lol

                        2rrrk08.jpg

                        The Ravens never used to be the Browns. But they were spawned by the Browns.

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                        D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                        @the-gipper said:

                        The Ravens never used to be the Browns. But they were spawned by the Browns.

                        Who says denial is just a river in Egypt?

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          Not former spouses. Bastards. Both literally and figuratively.

                          Former spouses could be bastards too. 😉

                          Still what a legacy!

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @mjp28 said:

                          Former spouses could be bastards too. 😉

                          Still what a legacy!

                          Though I guess we would call them bitches rather than Bastards.

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            The Ravens never used to be the Browns. But they were spawned by the Browns.

                            Who says denial is just a river in Egypt?

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                            @d-bone said:

                            Who says denial is just a river in Egypt?

                            Would you like to put some money on it. I am cash short right now.

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                              @the-cysko-kid said:

                              As far as I know the Cleveland Browns is the only team that's given birth to half it's own division.

                              The most pure, untarnished team in the division are those stainless Steelers.lol

                              2rrrk08.jpg

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                              @stinkhole said:

                              The most pure, untarnished team in the division are those stainless Steelers.lol

                              2rrrk08.jpg

                              I hate the steelers but I at least respect them as not having been spawned by the browns.

                              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                @stinkhole said:

                                The most pure, untarnished team in the division are those stainless Steelers.lol

                                2rrrk08.jpg

                                I hate the steelers but I at least respect them as not having been spawned by the browns.

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                                @the-cysko-kid said:

                                I hate the steelers but I at least respect them as not having been spawned by the browns.

                                I guess they are the one other "legitimate" team. Even a "big brother" of sorts, as they formed in 1933, 13 years before the Browns.

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                                  @stinkhole said:

                                  I cant bring myself to wish an opposing player gets hurt and carted off...probably because I have no reason to be bitter I guess.

                                  I don't really wish it either...its just smack talk. But it doesn't make me regretful when it happens merely because so many Browns players have had that happen to them. So its just a matter of equity.

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                                  StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  I don't really wish it either...its just smack talk. But it doesn't make me regretful when it happens merely because so many Browns players have had that happen to them. So its just a matter of equity.

                                  That's fair, and I admit I aint getting upset when an opposing star player goes down during a game...I say "oh well" its part of the game. Never will wish it though.

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                                    @d-bone said:

                                    Who says denial is just a river in Egypt?

                                    Would you like to put some money on it. I am cash short right now.

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                                    StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    Would you like to put some money on it. I am cash short right now.

                                    How do you bet on a point of view? Don't think there is a right or wrong here.

                                    Not the current players, but the Ravens organization used to be the Browns. The entire team and FO moved there, and their descendants are the current Ravens.

                                    The only Brown remaining is Ozzie Newsome.

                                    You say they were spawned. I can't imagine an egg laying analogy, but I'm sure your explanation will be reasonable.

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                                      I also view the Ravens as having been the old browns. I know Gipper fights to the death about the legal status but that is just a lawyer trying to win an argument. The old Browns are the Ravens now and they took the mojo that the 80s browns that I watched as a kid with them. The current Browns are the Browns now, but the organization has never and will never be the same entity that I watched back then.

                                      I hate the Ravens for that and it really bums me out because those two superbowls should belong to us.

                                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                        @mjp28 said:

                                        Former spouses could be bastards too. 😉

                                        Still what a legacy!

                                        Though I guess we would call them bitches rather than Bastards.

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                                        mjp28, on 15 Sept 2016 - 10:25 PM, said:

                                        Former spouses could be bastards too. 😉

                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        Though I guess we would call them bitches rather than Bastards.

                                        Actually kind of like playing word games this week, spouses of wives could be bastards.

                                        I do notice not a whole lot of extra commentary here on this week's game (from vegasinsider.com )

                                        09/18 1:00 PM

                                        267 Baltimore

                                        268 Cleveland +2' open 43' now +6 42' <---- this line shot way up

                                        CLE-QB-Josh McCown-Probable | CLE-QB-Robert Griffin III-OUT | TV: CBS, DTV: 705 | MOSTLY CLOUDY, 40% CHANCE SHOWER/STORMS. SOUTHWEST WIND 7-12. GAME TEMP 72, RH 84% HEAT INDEX 76

                                        So there you go. .......

                                        GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          Would you like to put some money on it. I am cash short right now.

                                          How do you bet on a point of view? Don't think there is a right or wrong here.

                                          Not the current players, but the Ravens organization used to be the Browns. The entire team and FO moved there, and their descendants are the current Ravens.

                                          The only Brown remaining is Ozzie Newsome.

                                          You say they were spawned. I can't imagine an egg laying analogy, but I'm sure your explanation will be reasonable.

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                                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                                          @stinkhole said:

                                          How do you bet on a point of view? Don't think there is a right or wrong here.

                                          It is NOT a point of view.....it is an objective fact from a legal perspective.

                                          Not the current players, but the Ravens organization used to be the Browns.

                                          NO, it didn't that is my point. The Ravens are and always have been a completely separate NFL franchise.

                                          The Cleveland Browns NEVER discontinued operations.

                                          The entire team and FO moved there, and their descendants are the current Ravens.

                                          The only Brown remaining is Ozzie Newsome.

                                          SOME personell moved there. Once upon a time Eric Mangini coached the Jets, then he coached the Browns. He used to work for the Jets. Does that mean that the Browns used to be the Jets? No. Same difference.

                                          Contracts of some players and some other personell were assigned.

                                          We just traded Justin Gilbert to the Steelers, his contract was assigned to them. Does that mean that the Steelers used to be the Browns?

                                          Just because there was somewhat of an en masse assignment of player contracts does not mean that the franchise changed.

                                          I say again, the Cleveland Browns NEVER discontinued operations. The franchise always remained. It had an on field hiatus, and a transfer of ownership, but that's it. No different really than when Haslam bought the Browns from Lerner.

                                          (by the way, I am not sure that Ozzie actually worked for the Browns FO....he certainly was not their GM...would have to check on that)

                                          You say they were spawned. I can't imagine an egg laying analogy, but I'm sure your explanation will be reasonable.

                                          Fertilized, gave birth to. Yes, there is certainly a lineal connection between the two franchises.

                                          But, you are not your father are you. You are a separate person/entity. Same here.

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