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  • @mld-woody said:

    Hobbies you couldn't afford for the most part

    The neighbors I had as a poor student would say otherwise.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    The neighbors I had as a poor student would say otherwise.

    I guess it depends on the hobby and what you want to do with it

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    The neighbors I had as a poor student would say otherwise.

    I guess it depends on the hobby and what you want to do with it

    @mld-woody said:

    I guess it depends on the hobby and what you want to do with it

    I am just living in a state with a large % of the state on welfare or disability generationally so I get sick of seeing that shit.

  • I MAKE A LIVING OFF OF THE RARE PEPE TRADE. GOD DAMN IS IT GREAT TO BE AN AMERICAN

  • @mld-woody said:

    I guess it depends on the hobby and what you want to do with it

    I am just living in a state with a large % of the state on welfare or disability generationally so I get sick of seeing that shit.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I am just living in a state with a large % of the state on welfare or disability generationally so I get sick of seeing that shit.

    And I'm sure it's exclusively millennials.

    Either way, having a welfare system that pays more than minimum wage (or otherwise enables a better quality of life) is just not the right way to do it.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    I am just living in a state with a large % of the state on welfare or disability generationally so I get sick of seeing that shit.

    And I'm sure it's exclusively millennials.

    Either way, having a welfare system that pays more than minimum wage (or otherwise enables a better quality of life) is just not the right way to do it.

    @gftchris said:

    And I'm sure it's exclusively millennials.

    Either way, having a welfare system that pays more than minimum wage (or otherwise enables a better quality of life) is just not the right way to do it.

    Ultimately, that is the problem. If you factor in 'free' healthcare, rent, money, EBT (food), etc. , living on welfare pays out wayy more than if you were just a low skill worker trying to learn more skills on the job. This creates generational welfare recipients. Mom and dad never learned any job skills and they pass that work ethic on to the kids.

  • That is true. I have a five year old boy and I asked him the other day what he wanted to be when he grows up. I told him he could be anything he wanted to be, which at five years old is still true. He says "I'm going to be a worker like you, dad". He has no idea what I actually do at work he just knows I work and do that's what his ambition is. It's not a sexy ambition but it's not such a bad one either. People willing to work usually find the opportunity to provide for themselves.

  • People with no role model, what's their impetus to work? No one has ever shown them that thats the way to get ahead. They can still decide to work but it's a lot less likely that they will do so.

  • Speaking of which, did you see Josh McCown's presser? The reason he kept going back in and taking that beating is to set the example for his kids.

    "I got a dad and older brother who I know get up and go to work and sometimes they don't feel great, and they go and they grind. And I got two little boys that -- they're playing football now -- and they get hit and they get banged up and I'm trying to teach them what toughness means."

    Say what you like about his football skills, he's a great guy.

  • That is true. I have a five year old boy and I asked him the other day what he wanted to be when he grows up. I told him he could be anything he wanted to be, which at five years old is still true. He says "I'm going to be a worker like you, dad". He has no idea what I actually do at work he just knows I work and do that's what his ambition is. It's not a sexy ambition but it's not such a bad one either. People willing to work usually find the opportunity to provide for themselves.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    That is true. I have a five year old boy and I asked him the other day what he wanted to be when he grows up. I told him he could be anything he wanted to be, which at five years old is still true. He says "I'm going to be a worker like you, dad". He has no idea what I actually do at work he just knows I work and do that's what his ambition is. It's not a sexy ambition but it's not such a bad one either. People willing to work usually find the opportunity to provide for themselves.

    And see that is how it should be. Growing up, I saw my dad and my grandpa working all the time. It was cool because that is what guys do. If all you see your parents doing is hanging out, you will just presume that is how things are supposed to be.

  • Speaking of which, did you see Josh McCown's presser? The reason he kept going back in and taking that beating is to set the example for his kids.

    "I got a dad and older brother who I know get up and go to work and sometimes they don't feel great, and they go and they grind. And I got two little boys that -- they're playing football now -- and they get hit and they get banged up and I'm trying to teach them what toughness means."

    Say what you like about his football skills, he's a great guy.

    @gftchris said:

    Speaking of which, did you see Josh McCown's presser? The reason he kept going back in and taking that beating is to set the example for his kids.

    "I got a dad and older brother who I know get up and go to work and sometimes they don't feel great, and they go and they grind. And I got two little boys that -- they're playing football now -- and they get hit and they get banged up and I'm trying to teach them what toughness means."

    Say what you like about his football skills, he's a great guy.

    A good guy for sure.

  • I didn't get much of a relationship with my dad growing up because he worked shifts, including at the weekend. He would work either 6am-2pm, 2pm-10pm or 10pm-6am. So basically he wasn't there in either the morning, or the evening, and sometimes both. He would call home around 6pm when working the 2/10 shift, tell my mum that he'd been offered overtime, another four hours on the end of the shift. So he'd work 2pm-2am, then get up and get us ready for school in the morning and go back to bed for a few hours before going back to do the same again.

    I'm still trying to build that relationship, 20 years on, but he taught me about what it means to work your backside off to provide for your children (not that I have any). Of course, I didn't realise it at the time, but it must also have been a huge sacrifice for him missing out on a lot of the events from my (and both my brothers') childhood, on top of the hard work. I wish I could thank him for it, but he's an old school kinda guy, and really struggles with the touchy feely conversations.

  • I wanted to be a doctor when I was a little kid. The reason was my father always wanted to be a doctor and never got the chance. He went to Kent State and got his degree in lab technician stuff after World War II. He only had two opportunities for medical school Chiropractic and osteopathic neither of them considered real medicine back in those days.

    He did fairly well selling medical devices Etc to hospital so he had to travel a fair amount.

    He had just enough knowledge other devices he sold and more than enough bullshit to be successful. But when he wasn't on the road I was by his side almost constantly.

    Oftentimes that meant the stool beside him at the bar with a Coke and a beef stick.

    I often think of the similarities and differences with his life and mine. May he rest in peace.

    Chris I hope you and your old man get together before it's too late my friend.

    WSS