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  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug

    My congrats and thanks to CW and the iggles for stomping the snot out of the stoolies

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    MasterDogM MasterDog wrote on last edited by
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    @flyingfooldoug said:

    My congrats and thanks to CW and the iggles for stomping the snot out of the stoolies

    About the only thing positive this weekend.

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      @flyingfooldoug said:

      My congrats and thanks to CW and the iggles for stomping the snot out of the stoolies

      About the only thing positive this weekend.

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      flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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      @masterdog said:

      About the only thing positive this weekend.[/quote

      Bungholes losing was a + too

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        @cambridgeho said:

        Both Wentz and Prescott look really good. One thing I noticed though, is that they have all day to stand back and pass. It is unreal how long they have. I also realized the wr and te's that they get to trow to. I'm not sayong the are not good or they won't be good, but damn they got lucky with some talent around them.

        And you have pinpointed exactly why Cleveland is where QB's go to die. Boneheaded FO's who don't get (or keep) the talent around the QB either.

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        @texasag1969 said:

        And you have pinpointed exactly why Cleveland is where QB's go to die. Boneheaded FO's who don't get (or keep) the talent around the QB either.

        Why blame the FO. This was Hue's decision - Brown/Depodesta asked is his potential a top 16? and the answer from the evaluators was "no". Do you blame the decision making criteria or the inaacurate assessment used in response?

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        • cambridgehoC cambridgeho

          Both Wentz and Prescott look really good. One thing I noticed though, is that they have all day to stand back and pass. It is unreal how long they have. I also realized the wr and te's that they get to trow to. I'm not sayong the are not good or they won't be good, but damn they got lucky with some talent around them.

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          Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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          @cambridgeho said:

          Both Wentz and Prescott look really good. One thing I noticed though, is that they have all day to stand back and pass. It is unreal how long they have. I also realized the wr and te's that they get to trow to. I'm not sayong the are not good or they won't be good, but damn they got lucky with some talent around them.

          The Philly offensive line is in just as much a state of flux as our offensive line, they have players playing out of position and a looming suspension. Philly also only has one first rounder along their line, unlike us. However, they have what is ranked as the TOP offensive line in terms of athleticism, which is nice.

          http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2016/5/24/11759990/eagles-most-athletic-offensive-line-nfl-rankings-study-philadelphia-lane-johnson-jason-peters

          Man, oh man. If only we had a highly-ranked athletic offensive line like they do...oh wait....

          When a defense has to respect your quarterback, they don't get the luxury of bringing 5,6,7 guys after the QB. I understand we've had some TERRIBLE offensive line play, especially from RT, but once we get a QB situation that teams have to acknowledge....I'm willing to put money on the fact we'll see an increase in offensive line play.

          I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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            cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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            I agree, just seems like the other team is in our backfield within 1 second of snapping the ball.

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              Philly also only has one first rounder along their line, unlike us.

              The Browns only have one first rounder on their line: Joe Thomas. (not counting Erving who is out) Bito round 2. Greco/Bailey/Pasztor...who knows what round they were taken in.

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                MasterDogM MasterDog wrote on last edited by MasterDog
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                A good QB usually can off set some of the inefficiency of the Offensive Line. (See P. Manning and T. Brady over the years).

                The ability to understand blitz and what the defense throws at you cannot be under estimated.

                Wentz did 2 things really well.

                1) He audibled and put the offense in a better opportunity

                2) He was able to slide and BUY time (see the 72 yard pass to Sproles).

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                • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

                  You know, the ol' Ghoolster was right about one thing: we fucked up by not drafting Paxton Lynch. That dude is really tearing it up in Denv... ...oh.

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                  F Furious Styles wrote on last edited by
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                  @jbluhm86 said:

                  You know, the ol' Ghoolster was right about one thing: we fucked up by not drafting Paxton Lynch. That dude is really tearing it up in Denv... ...oh.

                  Just because Lynch and Goff aren't playing doesn't mean they aren't any good. If Bridgewater doesn't get hurt, Sam Bradford is STILL the QB in Philly and you guys would be saying how dumb they were for trading up for Wentz.Wentz would be a backup like Lynch and Goff.
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                    Both Wentz and Prescott look really good. One thing I noticed though, is that they have all day to stand back and pass. It is unreal how long they have. I also realized the wr and te's that they get to trow to. I'm not sayong the are not good or they won't be good, but damn they got lucky with some talent around them.

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                    B browns52 wrote on last edited by
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                    @cambridgeho said:

                    Both Wentz and Prescott look really good. One thing I noticed though, is that they have all day to stand back and pass. It is unreal how long they have. I also realized the wr and te's that they get to trow to. I'm not sayong the are not good or they won't be good, but damn they got lucky with some talent around them.

                    dallas has the best ol in the nfl...the eagles ol is ok.....what i see from wentz is he has some of big ben's talent...great arm and he can sidestep the rush in the pocket and make a play..he's going to be a good one...the only good thing is at least he is not playing in the afc north...

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                      MasterDogM MasterDog wrote on last edited by
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                      So this guy is a film junkie ala P. Manning.

                      https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/carson-wentzs-coach-compared-the-rookie-qb-to-peyton-manning-in-one-way-173208028.html

                      Why can't he be a party junkie like our boy Manziel? This way we don't feel so bad...

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                      • F Furious Styles

                        @jbluhm86 said:

                        You know, the ol' Ghoolster was right about one thing: we fucked up by not drafting Paxton Lynch. That dude is really tearing it up in Denv... ...oh.

                        Just because Lynch and Goff aren't playing doesn't mean they aren't any good. If Bridgewater doesn't get hurt, Sam Bradford is STILL the QB in Philly and you guys would be saying how dumb they were for trading up for Wentz.Wentz would be a backup like Lynch and Goff.
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                        T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                        @furious-styles said:

                        If Bridgewater doesn't get hurt, Sam Bradford is STILL the QB in Philly and you guys would be saying how dumb they were for trading up for Wentz.Wentz would be a backup like Lynch and Goff.

                        And if my aunt had balls she'd have been my uncle Sal instead of Sally. Fact is Wentz does play and he plays very well, far above the norm for a rookie QB. So adjust to it.

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                          jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                          Just when you think it can't be any worse, Carson Wentz destroys the Steelers and basically looks all-universe in the process.

                          I mean...

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                          • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

                            Just when you think it can't be any worse, Carson Wentz destroys the Steelers and basically looks all-universe in the process.

                            I mean...

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                            jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                            @jiggins7919 said:

                            Just when you think it can't be any worse, Carson Wentz destroys the Steelers and basically looks all-universe in the process.

                            I mean...

                            We don't have fucking Carson Wentz, so let it go. Jesus.

                            What we do have is a 3rd round pick who in 3 weeks went from not even sniffing the field to starting, on the road, and was one weiner-ass kicker from winning the game. That same QB led a team to over 400 yards of offense. There's a lot to be positive about, crying over spilled milk is a waste of time.

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                              W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                              Jrb for prezzy.

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                                @jiggins7919 said:

                                Just when you think it can't be any worse, Carson Wentz destroys the Steelers and basically looks all-universe in the process.

                                I mean...

                                We don't have fucking Carson Wentz, so let it go. Jesus.

                                What we do have is a 3rd round pick who in 3 weeks went from not even sniffing the field to starting, on the road, and was one weiner-ass kicker from winning the game. That same QB led a team to over 400 yards of offense. There's a lot to be positive about, crying over spilled milk is a waste of time.

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                                miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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                                @jrb12711 said:

                                We don't have fucking Carson Wentz, so let it go. Jesus.

                                What we do have is a 3rd round pick who in 3 weeks went from not even sniffing the field to starting, on the road, and was one weiner-ass kicker from winning the game. That same QB led a team to over 400 yards of offense. There's a lot to be positive about, crying over spilled milk is a waste of time.

                                uhhh.............. that's what this forum is about........opinions. there is always history being spewed here (cuz that's all this franchise has), so complaining about something that happened 5 months ago should be of no surprise.

                                and believe me, put the film up of cody kessler next to that of carson wentz and it's not even close. and the positives aren't swinging kessler's way. wentz looks like the second coming of marino in arm strength and young in mobility whilst being able to read defenses like a pro. all in a prototypical franchise qb body.

                                when kessler is shining shoes at the bus terminal, i'm sure he'll take homage knowing that there were some dopes on a forum that thought he was going to be the saviour in cleveland.

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                                  @jrb12711 said:

                                  We don't have fucking Carson Wentz, so let it go. Jesus.

                                  What we do have is a 3rd round pick who in 3 weeks went from not even sniffing the field to starting, on the road, and was one weiner-ass kicker from winning the game. That same QB led a team to over 400 yards of offense. There's a lot to be positive about, crying over spilled milk is a waste of time.

                                  uhhh.............. that's what this forum is about........opinions. there is always history being spewed here (cuz that's all this franchise has), so complaining about something that happened 5 months ago should be of no surprise.

                                  and believe me, put the film up of cody kessler next to that of carson wentz and it's not even close. and the positives aren't swinging kessler's way. wentz looks like the second coming of marino in arm strength and young in mobility whilst being able to read defenses like a pro. all in a prototypical franchise qb body.

                                  when kessler is shining shoes at the bus terminal, i'm sure he'll take homage knowing that there were some dopes on a forum that thought he was going to be the saviour in cleveland.

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                                  T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @miktoxic said:

                                  uhhh.............. that's what this forum is about........opinions. there is always history being spewed here (cuz that's all this franchise has), so complaining about something that happened 5 months ago should be of no surprise.

                                  and believe me, put the film up of cody kessler next to that of carson wentz and it's not even close. and the positives aren't swinging kessler's way. wentz looks like the second coming of marino in arm strength and young in mobility whilst being able to read defenses like a pro. all in a prototypical franchise qb body.

                                  when kessler is shining shoes at the bus terminal, i'm sure he'll take homage knowing that there were some dopes on a forum that thought he was going to be the saviour in cleveland.

                                  Heh, he's one inch taller than our last midget and two steps slower. Nothing wrong with this plan.

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                                    @miktoxic said:

                                    uhhh.............. that's what this forum is about........opinions. there is always history being spewed here (cuz that's all this franchise has), so complaining about something that happened 5 months ago should be of no surprise.

                                    and believe me, put the film up of cody kessler next to that of carson wentz and it's not even close. and the positives aren't swinging kessler's way. wentz looks like the second coming of marino in arm strength and young in mobility whilst being able to read defenses like a pro. all in a prototypical franchise qb body.

                                    when kessler is shining shoes at the bus terminal, i'm sure he'll take homage knowing that there were some dopes on a forum that thought he was going to be the saviour in cleveland.

                                    Heh, he's one inch taller than our last midget and two steps slower. Nothing wrong with this plan.

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                                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                    @texasag1969 said:

                                    Heh, he's one inch taller than our last midget and two steps slower. Nothing wrong with this plan.

                                    But I'll bet Kessler isn't in Las Vegas right now. 😁

                                    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                      @texasag1969 said:

                                      Heh, he's one inch taller than our last midget and two steps slower. Nothing wrong with this plan.

                                      But I'll bet Kessler isn't in Las Vegas right now. 😁

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                                      T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                      But I'll bet Kessler isn't in Las Vegas right now. 😁

                                      A few more hits through our porous line may change all that. Just give it time. 😛

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                                        @jrb12711 said:

                                        We don't have fucking Carson Wentz, so let it go. Jesus.

                                        What we do have is a 3rd round pick who in 3 weeks went from not even sniffing the field to starting, on the road, and was one weiner-ass kicker from winning the game. That same QB led a team to over 400 yards of offense. There's a lot to be positive about, crying over spilled milk is a waste of time.

                                        uhhh.............. that's what this forum is about........opinions. there is always history being spewed here (cuz that's all this franchise has), so complaining about something that happened 5 months ago should be of no surprise.

                                        and believe me, put the film up of cody kessler next to that of carson wentz and it's not even close. and the positives aren't swinging kessler's way. wentz looks like the second coming of marino in arm strength and young in mobility whilst being able to read defenses like a pro. all in a prototypical franchise qb body.

                                        when kessler is shining shoes at the bus terminal, i'm sure he'll take homage knowing that there were some dopes on a forum that thought he was going to be the saviour in cleveland.

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                                        MasterDogM MasterDog wrote on last edited by MasterDog
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                                        @miktoxic said:

                                        when kessler is shining shoes at the bus terminal, i'm sure he'll take homage knowing that there were some dopes on a forum that thought he was going to be the saviour in cleveland.

                                        😆 :lol: 😆

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                                          Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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                                          Wentz looks like real deal. Came from a pro style offense, has football smarts and Browns are nuts for trading that pick away! Nuts! The QB's coming out next year better be studs!

                                          DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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