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  • Both Wentz and Prescott look really good. One thing I noticed though, is that they have all day to stand back and pass. It is unreal how long they have. I also realized the wr and te's that they get to trow to. I'm not sayong the are not good or they won't be good, but damn they got lucky with some talent around them.

    @cambridgeho said:

    Both Wentz and Prescott look really good. One thing I noticed though, is that they have all day to stand back and pass. It is unreal how long they have. I also realized the wr and te's that they get to trow to. I'm not sayong the are not good or they won't be good, but damn they got lucky with some talent around them.

    The Philly offensive line is in just as much a state of flux as our offensive line, they have players playing out of position and a looming suspension. Philly also only has one first rounder along their line, unlike us. However, they have what is ranked as the TOP offensive line in terms of athleticism, which is nice.

    http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2016/5/24/11759990/eagles-most-athletic-offensive-line-nfl-rankings-study-philadelphia-lane-johnson-jason-peters

    Man, oh man. If only we had a highly-ranked athletic offensive line like they do...oh wait....

    When a defense has to respect your quarterback, they don't get the luxury of bringing 5,6,7 guys after the QB. I understand we've had some TERRIBLE offensive line play, especially from RT, but once we get a QB situation that teams have to acknowledge....I'm willing to put money on the fact we'll see an increase in offensive line play.

  • I agree, just seems like the other team is in our backfield within 1 second of snapping the ball.

  • Philly also only has one first rounder along their line, unlike us.

    The Browns only have one first rounder on their line: Joe Thomas. (not counting Erving who is out) Bito round 2. Greco/Bailey/Pasztor...who knows what round they were taken in.

  • A good QB usually can off set some of the inefficiency of the Offensive Line. (See P. Manning and T. Brady over the years).

    The ability to understand blitz and what the defense throws at you cannot be under estimated.

    Wentz did 2 things really well.

    1) He audibled and put the offense in a better opportunity

    2) He was able to slide and BUY time (see the 72 yard pass to Sproles).

  • You know, the ol' Ghoolster was right about one thing: we fucked up by not drafting Paxton Lynch. That dude is really tearing it up in Denv... ...oh.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    You know, the ol' Ghoolster was right about one thing: we fucked up by not drafting Paxton Lynch. That dude is really tearing it up in Denv... ...oh.

    Just because Lynch and Goff aren't playing doesn't mean they aren't any good. If Bridgewater doesn't get hurt, Sam Bradford is STILL the QB in Philly and you guys would be saying how dumb they were for trading up for Wentz.Wentz would be a backup like Lynch and Goff.
  • Both Wentz and Prescott look really good. One thing I noticed though, is that they have all day to stand back and pass. It is unreal how long they have. I also realized the wr and te's that they get to trow to. I'm not sayong the are not good or they won't be good, but damn they got lucky with some talent around them.

    @cambridgeho said:

    Both Wentz and Prescott look really good. One thing I noticed though, is that they have all day to stand back and pass. It is unreal how long they have. I also realized the wr and te's that they get to trow to. I'm not sayong the are not good or they won't be good, but damn they got lucky with some talent around them.

    dallas has the best ol in the nfl...the eagles ol is ok.....what i see from wentz is he has some of big ben's talent...great arm and he can sidestep the rush in the pocket and make a play..he's going to be a good one...the only good thing is at least he is not playing in the afc north...

  • So this guy is a film junkie ala P. Manning.

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/carson-wentzs-coach-compared-the-rookie-qb-to-peyton-manning-in-one-way-173208028.html

    Why can't he be a party junkie like our boy Manziel? This way we don't feel so bad...

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    You know, the ol' Ghoolster was right about one thing: we fucked up by not drafting Paxton Lynch. That dude is really tearing it up in Denv... ...oh.

    Just because Lynch and Goff aren't playing doesn't mean they aren't any good. If Bridgewater doesn't get hurt, Sam Bradford is STILL the QB in Philly and you guys would be saying how dumb they were for trading up for Wentz.Wentz would be a backup like Lynch and Goff.

    @furious-styles said:

    If Bridgewater doesn't get hurt, Sam Bradford is STILL the QB in Philly and you guys would be saying how dumb they were for trading up for Wentz.Wentz would be a backup like Lynch and Goff.

    And if my aunt had balls she'd have been my uncle Sal instead of Sally. Fact is Wentz does play and he plays very well, far above the norm for a rookie QB. So adjust to it.

  • Just when you think it can't be any worse, Carson Wentz destroys the Steelers and basically looks all-universe in the process.

    I mean...

  • Just when you think it can't be any worse, Carson Wentz destroys the Steelers and basically looks all-universe in the process.

    I mean...

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Just when you think it can't be any worse, Carson Wentz destroys the Steelers and basically looks all-universe in the process.

    I mean...

    We don't have fucking Carson Wentz, so let it go. Jesus.

    What we do have is a 3rd round pick who in 3 weeks went from not even sniffing the field to starting, on the road, and was one weiner-ass kicker from winning the game. That same QB led a team to over 400 yards of offense. There's a lot to be positive about, crying over spilled milk is a waste of time.

  • Jrb for prezzy.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Just when you think it can't be any worse, Carson Wentz destroys the Steelers and basically looks all-universe in the process.

    I mean...

    We don't have fucking Carson Wentz, so let it go. Jesus.

    What we do have is a 3rd round pick who in 3 weeks went from not even sniffing the field to starting, on the road, and was one weiner-ass kicker from winning the game. That same QB led a team to over 400 yards of offense. There's a lot to be positive about, crying over spilled milk is a waste of time.

    @jrb12711 said:

    We don't have fucking Carson Wentz, so let it go. Jesus.

    What we do have is a 3rd round pick who in 3 weeks went from not even sniffing the field to starting, on the road, and was one weiner-ass kicker from winning the game. That same QB led a team to over 400 yards of offense. There's a lot to be positive about, crying over spilled milk is a waste of time.

    uhhh.............. that's what this forum is about........opinions. there is always history being spewed here (cuz that's all this franchise has), so complaining about something that happened 5 months ago should be of no surprise.

    and believe me, put the film up of cody kessler next to that of carson wentz and it's not even close. and the positives aren't swinging kessler's way. wentz looks like the second coming of marino in arm strength and young in mobility whilst being able to read defenses like a pro. all in a prototypical franchise qb body.

    when kessler is shining shoes at the bus terminal, i'm sure he'll take homage knowing that there were some dopes on a forum that thought he was going to be the saviour in cleveland.

  • @jrb12711 said:

    We don't have fucking Carson Wentz, so let it go. Jesus.

    What we do have is a 3rd round pick who in 3 weeks went from not even sniffing the field to starting, on the road, and was one weiner-ass kicker from winning the game. That same QB led a team to over 400 yards of offense. There's a lot to be positive about, crying over spilled milk is a waste of time.

    uhhh.............. that's what this forum is about........opinions. there is always history being spewed here (cuz that's all this franchise has), so complaining about something that happened 5 months ago should be of no surprise.

    and believe me, put the film up of cody kessler next to that of carson wentz and it's not even close. and the positives aren't swinging kessler's way. wentz looks like the second coming of marino in arm strength and young in mobility whilst being able to read defenses like a pro. all in a prototypical franchise qb body.

    when kessler is shining shoes at the bus terminal, i'm sure he'll take homage knowing that there were some dopes on a forum that thought he was going to be the saviour in cleveland.

    @miktoxic said:

    uhhh.............. that's what this forum is about........opinions. there is always history being spewed here (cuz that's all this franchise has), so complaining about something that happened 5 months ago should be of no surprise.

    and believe me, put the film up of cody kessler next to that of carson wentz and it's not even close. and the positives aren't swinging kessler's way. wentz looks like the second coming of marino in arm strength and young in mobility whilst being able to read defenses like a pro. all in a prototypical franchise qb body.

    when kessler is shining shoes at the bus terminal, i'm sure he'll take homage knowing that there were some dopes on a forum that thought he was going to be the saviour in cleveland.

    Heh, he's one inch taller than our last midget and two steps slower. Nothing wrong with this plan.

  • @miktoxic said:

    uhhh.............. that's what this forum is about........opinions. there is always history being spewed here (cuz that's all this franchise has), so complaining about something that happened 5 months ago should be of no surprise.

    and believe me, put the film up of cody kessler next to that of carson wentz and it's not even close. and the positives aren't swinging kessler's way. wentz looks like the second coming of marino in arm strength and young in mobility whilst being able to read defenses like a pro. all in a prototypical franchise qb body.

    when kessler is shining shoes at the bus terminal, i'm sure he'll take homage knowing that there were some dopes on a forum that thought he was going to be the saviour in cleveland.

    Heh, he's one inch taller than our last midget and two steps slower. Nothing wrong with this plan.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Heh, he's one inch taller than our last midget and two steps slower. Nothing wrong with this plan.

    But I'll bet Kessler isn't in Las Vegas right now. 😁

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Heh, he's one inch taller than our last midget and two steps slower. Nothing wrong with this plan.

    But I'll bet Kessler isn't in Las Vegas right now. 😁

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    But I'll bet Kessler isn't in Las Vegas right now. 😁

    A few more hits through our porous line may change all that. Just give it time. 😛

  • @jrb12711 said:

    We don't have fucking Carson Wentz, so let it go. Jesus.

    What we do have is a 3rd round pick who in 3 weeks went from not even sniffing the field to starting, on the road, and was one weiner-ass kicker from winning the game. That same QB led a team to over 400 yards of offense. There's a lot to be positive about, crying over spilled milk is a waste of time.

    uhhh.............. that's what this forum is about........opinions. there is always history being spewed here (cuz that's all this franchise has), so complaining about something that happened 5 months ago should be of no surprise.

    and believe me, put the film up of cody kessler next to that of carson wentz and it's not even close. and the positives aren't swinging kessler's way. wentz looks like the second coming of marino in arm strength and young in mobility whilst being able to read defenses like a pro. all in a prototypical franchise qb body.

    when kessler is shining shoes at the bus terminal, i'm sure he'll take homage knowing that there were some dopes on a forum that thought he was going to be the saviour in cleveland.

    @miktoxic said:

    when kessler is shining shoes at the bus terminal, i'm sure he'll take homage knowing that there were some dopes on a forum that thought he was going to be the saviour in cleveland.

    😆 :lol: 😆

  • Wentz looks like real deal. Came from a pro style offense, has football smarts and Browns are nuts for trading that pick away! Nuts! The QB's coming out next year better be studs!

  • It's not crying over spilled milk, it's pointing out how our new front office may have completely screwed our franchise over for ANOTHER ten years. Kessler fought his ass off, but in my opinion, he doesn't have the athletic ability to make it as a starter. Think of it THIS way...who would you compare him to in the NFL today that is successful? And I mean TODAY'S NFL. Don't say Joe Montana or something like that. The game is different now.

    To be fair, just because a player doesn't compare to successful players, it doesn't mean that he CAN'T thrive, but I do think it's worth mentioning. Kessler looked extremely slow, and his arm didn't look great. Maybe he can overcome these things, but I just don't think so. It's probably safe to say that we're picking a QB at the top of next year's draft, and let's hope to hell that he works out.

    Hey, I hope I'm wrong, I really do. But if I was a betting man, I'd put money on Cody being a backup at best.

  • I have said it 2 years back. That Manziel pick set us back 4-5 years. We are in year 3 of that mess.

  • I remember all the wannabe NFL scouts in here saying he wasn't NFL ready, he comes from North Dakota State, blah blah blah. He's the real deal without a doubt. The Browns have proven once again what a shitty team they are picking talent, no matter who is in the front office it seems.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I remember all the wannabe NFL scouts in here saying he wasn't NFL ready, he comes from North Dakota State, blah blah blah. He's the real deal without a doubt. The Browns have proven once again what a shitty team they are picking talent, no matter who is in the front office it seems.

    I was as skeptical as any regarding Wenz, but have to admit that he looks solid and the game/speed are not too much for him..... Let's see how he does now that he's put enough on tape for DCs to figure out how to stop him.

    If he continues to look like a mini Big Ben, then yea, it's safe to say that the Browns swung and missed, but we're not there quite yet.