Cheapshot blindside helmet to helmet has Poyer still in hospital
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You did not happen to play for Lakewood did you?
Played against Lakewood my junior year. Didn't go so well.
That said, this thread and the 'outrage' doesn't exist if its a Browns player laying the wood on somebody. None of you would be bitching about it or the rules as they are. Quit with the double standards.
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Gary Danielson has suggested that special teams blockers should only be allowed to block in the direction of the runner. That strikes me as a good rule.
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You did not happen to play for Lakewood did you?
Played against Lakewood my junior year. Didn't go so well.
That said, this thread and the 'outrage' doesn't exist if its a Browns player laying the wood on somebody. None of you would be bitching about it or the rules as they are. Quit with the double standards.
Played against Lakewood my junior year. Didn't go so well.
That said, this thread and the 'outrage' doesn't exist if its a Browns player laying the wood on somebody. None of you would be bitching about it or the rules as they are. Quit with the double standards.
Yes, I would. I'm so glad you can assume how everyone would feel though.
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Played against Lakewood my junior year. Didn't go so well.
That said, this thread and the 'outrage' doesn't exist if its a Browns player laying the wood on somebody. None of you would be bitching about it or the rules as they are. Quit with the double standards.
Yes, I would. I'm so glad you can assume how everyone would feel though.
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I think the difference between incidental helmet to helmet contact is part of the game. But that isn't what
this was. Andrews' tweet made that clear. And spearing with his helmet wasn't accidental, either. Just what I think
about what I saw...over and over and over and.... again.
Spearing? Come on Cal, before you cost your team 15 yards for Piling On
Watch Andrews load his shoulders before hit than watch the ear holes meet ear holes. Spearing not the word. Blindside hit was the right call but..I was just shocked the refs called anything our way..We will decline your piling on penalty 
Spearing? Come on Cal, before you cost your team 15 yards for Piling On
Watch Andrews load his shoulders before hit than watch the ear holes meet ear holes. Spearing not the word. Blindside hit was the right call but..I was just shocked the refs called anything our way..We will decline your piling on penalty Well, he had to brace himself for the collision regardless. But he aimed his helmet right at his helmet.
The shoulder hit was pretty much a given. Everytime I watch it, I see his helmet leading the rest of his
body. For all his online bragging, he has proven that it was his intention to nail him. That is a disgrace.
Giving Andrews the benefit of the doubt went out the window entirely when he went bragging and gloating online.
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That said, this thread and the 'outrage' doesn't exist if its a Browns player laying the wood on somebody. None of you would be bitching about it or the rules as they are. Quit with the double standards. Tiam
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More bs. You make an invalid assumption, and then you proclaim that your assumption is accurate and that means double standards,
and those should be stopped.
You should stop and go back and think about that.
A lot of us would be disgusted if a Browns player deliberately nailed a blindside helmet to helmet violent hit, especially
when he goes online and brags about it.
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Sure.
Because I didn't make several posts in this thread explaining my point fairly and providing personal anecdotes. Nope, that didn't happen literally right above where you make assumptions like a jackass.
Reading comprehension is fun!
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Spearing? Come on Cal, before you cost your team 15 yards for Piling On
Watch Andrews load his shoulders before hit than watch the ear holes meet ear holes. Spearing not the word. Blindside hit was the right call but..I was just shocked the refs called anything our way..We will decline your piling on penalty Well, he had to brace himself for the collision regardless. But he aimed his helmet right at his helmet.
The shoulder hit was pretty much a given. Everytime I watch it, I see his helmet leading the rest of his
body. For all his online bragging, he has proven that it was his intention to nail him. That is a disgrace.
Giving Andrews the benefit of the doubt went out the window entirely when he went bragging and gloating online.
Well, he had to brace himself for the collision regardless. But he aimed his helmet right at his helmet.
The shoulder hit was pretty much a given. Everytime I watch it, I see his helmet leading the rest of his
body. For all his online bragging, he has proven that it was his intention to nail him. That is a disgrace.
Giving Andrews the benefit of the doubt went out the window entirely when he went bragging and gloating online.
Then his aim is piss-poor. And please tell me when the head does not lead the shoulders... does not lead the rest of the body.
A lot of us would be disgusted if a Browns player deliberately nailed a blindside helmet to helmet violent hit, especially when he goes online and brags about it.
A lot? Fuck, cal, we have people here that applaud Joe Jones' pile driver. Regardless some of us would actually see what happened.
Here is the original sequence from the default sideline angle. The two SetUp jpegs show Anderson lowering his shoulder preparing for impact. Observe the difference in waist bend.
The next six jpegs are a frame by frame though impact. Note that at no time does Poyer's head go backwards relative to his body showing the force of the block was not "helmet to helmet". They show:
- Anderson's helmet glancing the front of Poyer's mask.
- Anderson's helmet passing under Poyer's mask.
- Poyer's head twisting anticlockwise* from the glancing blow and the beginning clockwise rotation of his body.
- Poyer's head beginning to uncoil and "move forward" as it lags the body.
- Poyer's head has untorqued, but is still noticeably bending forward.
- Head and body are realigning.
One last shot catches Poyer extending his right arm to brace for impact with the turf. It is included to show Poyer was conscious at that moment.
So can we now cut the myopic, "helmet to helmet" bullshit?
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* For our brethren across the pond.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 - Anderson's helmet glancing the front of Poyer's mask.
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We have many people on this board that would volunteer to build the statute to Nassib if he put his helmet through Ben's knee.
So forgive me for believing members here somehow have an overwhelming sense of humanity.
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Well, he had to brace himself for the collision regardless. But he aimed his helmet right at his helmet.
The shoulder hit was pretty much a given. Everytime I watch it, I see his helmet leading the rest of his
body. For all his online bragging, he has proven that it was his intention to nail him. That is a disgrace.
Giving Andrews the benefit of the doubt went out the window entirely when he went bragging and gloating online.
Then his aim is piss-poor. And please tell me when the head does not lead the shoulders... does not lead the rest of the body.
A lot of us would be disgusted if a Browns player deliberately nailed a blindside helmet to helmet violent hit, especially when he goes online and brags about it.
A lot? Fuck, cal, we have people here that applaud Joe Jones' pile driver. Regardless some of us would actually see what happened.
Here is the original sequence from the default sideline angle. The two SetUp jpegs show Anderson lowering his shoulder preparing for impact. Observe the difference in waist bend.
The next six jpegs are a frame by frame though impact. Note that at no time does Poyer's head go backwards relative to his body showing the force of the block was not "helmet to helmet". They show:
- Anderson's helmet glancing the front of Poyer's mask.
- Anderson's helmet passing under Poyer's mask.
- Poyer's head twisting anticlockwise* from the glancing blow and the beginning clockwise rotation of his body.
- Poyer's head beginning to uncoil and "move forward" as it lags the body.
- Poyer's head has untorqued, but is still noticeably bending forward.
- Head and body are realigning.
One last shot catches Poyer extending his right arm to brace for impact with the turf. It is included to show Poyer was conscious at that moment.
So can we now cut the myopic, "helmet to helmet" bullshit?
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* For our brethren across the pond.
Then his aim is piss-poor. And please tell me when the head does not lead the shoulders... does not lead the rest of the body.
A lot? Fuck, cal, we have people here that applaud Joe Jones' pile driver. Regardless some of us would actually see what happened.
Here is the original sequence from the default sideline angle. The two SetUp jpegs show Anderson lowering his shoulder preparing for impact. Observe the difference in waist bend.
SetUp1-Upright.jpg SetUp2-Bend.jpgThe next six jpegs are a frame by frame though impact. Note that at no time does Poyer's head go backwards relative to his body showing the force of the block was not "helmet to helmet". They show:
- Anderson's helmet glancing the front of Poyer's mask. ImpactFrame1-HeadInFront.jpg
- Anderson's helmet passing under Poyer's mask. ImpactFrame2-HeadUnderMask.jpg
- Poyer's head twisting anticlockwise* from the glancing blow and the beginning clockwise rotation of his body. ImpactFrame3-HeadTwist.jpg
- Poyer's head beginning to uncoil and "move forward" as it lags the body. ImpactFrame4-UntwistForward.jpg
- Poyer's head has untorqued, but is still noticeably bending forward. ImpactFrame5-Untwisted.jpg
- Head and body are realigning. ImpactFrame6-GoingDown.jpg
One last shot catches Poyer extending his right arm to brace for impact with the turf. It is included to show Poyer was conscious at that moment.
So can we now cut the myopic, "helmet to helmet" bullshit?
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* For our brethren across the pond.
"Glancing the face mask? In seeing the replay it seemed that it was a far greater impact than just a "glancing blow"....and the face mask is part of the helmet. He slammed the crown of his helmet into Poyers face mask. That is still defined as helmet to helmet...and from what I can tell, a fairly forceful blow.
- Anderson's helmet glancing the front of Poyer's mask.
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We have many people on this board that would volunteer to build the statute to Nassib if he put his helmet through Ben's knee.
So forgive me for believing members here somehow have an overwhelming sense of humanity.
We have many people on this board that would volunteer to build the statute to Nassib if he put his helmet through Ben's knee.
So forgive me for believing members here somehow have an overwhelming sense of humanity.
Exactly- Some folks still love the way Turkey Jones pile-drove Bradshaw into the ground. Today- that move would probably be a 4 game suspension, minimum.
Based upon Alexander's body position, these are as near to simultaneous images from the two angles available from the broadcast.
He did hit Poyer sort of high- but it's done with- let it go guys. Karma is a bitch.
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A lot? Fuck, cal, we have people here that applaud Joe Jones' pile driver. Regardless some of us would actually see what happened. Tour
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Well, you don't understand what really happened. See, Joe Turkey Jones had Bradshaw in a bear hug, but
Bradshaw wouldn't go down, kept trying to get away, then Bradshaw elbows Jones in the facemask.. almost stomped on his foot, and then
in a last ditch attempt to get away, he jumps up into the air while Jones holds on, and dives head first into the ground to
draw a penalty.
Here, if you don't believe me. You just have to watch the video and "analyze" it like Tiam does...
(lol)
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It wasnt a cheap shot and it sure as shit doesn't deserve a fine.
Sorry but cracks are the defintion of blindside - how many of you complain about those?!?
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well, by golly, he wasn't fined, sure enough, for the illegal hit on Poyer.
Because the hittee was a Cleveland Brown, apparently:
"Brown was punished for a crack-back block, and Gay and Boykin were fined for excessive celebration."
Yep. Illegal. Andrews should have been fined, too.
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We have many people on this board that would volunteer to build the statute to Nassib if he put his helmet through Ben's knee.
So forgive me for believing members here somehow have an overwhelming sense of humanity.
Exactly- Some folks still love the way Turkey Jones pile-drove Bradshaw into the ground. Today- that move would probably be a 4 game suspension, minimum.
Based upon Alexander's body position, these are as near to simultaneous images from the two angles available from the broadcast.
He did hit Poyer sort of high- but it's done with- let it go guys. Karma is a bitch.
Exactly- Some folks still love the way Turkey Jones pile-drove Bradshaw into the ground. Today- that move would probably be a 4 game suspension, minimum.
Imagine today if a player talked like Deacon Jones.
"...you got an angle on him he should go to the hospital, that's exactly what I tried to do...no remorse in my heart....I tried to put him in the hospital every time I tackled him....I tried to tear his damn head off every time." -Deacon Jones
At around 2:15
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Some players are just dirty and try to hurt people and then it gives them a boner when they do. Remember the roid monkey giving 2 Browns players concussions in the same game and the refs didn't even throw a flag (Because they never flag those ignorant scum sucking fagots) And He was celebrating? Pisspuke and Cintucky both love having players like that, That is why it is fun to watch them play each other in hopes they kill somebody. The NFL claims they want to clean up their image but yet they only fine these players smh. What is a 20k fine when you are making MILLIONS? Now I do think it was ignorant that Domican Suh kicked Be in the knee or whatever, There is no place for any of that but the NFL says they will "review" the case in other words they will take pay offs or whatever because what is there to review? IT IS ON FILM, That is all there is to look at.
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EXACTLY CAL! Teams always get away for trying to hurt us, remember a few games ago when players jumped on our QB after he already was on the ground? Think it was the RatBirds game. It is fucking bullshit. We should have another bottelgate. We already have the deck stacked against us and having the refs against us don't help at all. That ignorant cunt ref we had against Washington should be fired, 2 bullshit PI calls and giving Wash the ball when Duke hat it in his hands????? But they wont say shit to her just because she is a female.
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Some players are just dirty and try to hurt people and then it gives them a boner when they do. Remember the roid monkey giving 2 Browns players concussions in the same game and the refs didn't even throw a flag (Because they never flag those ignorant scum sucking fagots) And He was celebrating? Pisspuke and Cintucky both love having players like that, That is why it is fun to watch them play each other in hopes they kill somebody. The NFL claims they want to clean up their image but yet they only fine these players smh. What is a 20k fine when you are making MILLIONS? Now I do think it was ignorant that Domican Suh kicked Be in the knee or whatever, There is no place for any of that but the NFL says they will "review" the case in other words they will take pay offs or whatever because what is there to review? IT IS ON FILM, That is all there is to look at.
Some players are just dirty and try to hurt people and then it gives them a boner when they do. Remember the roid monkey giving 2 Browns players concussions in the same game and the refs didn't even throw a flag (Because they never flag those ignorant scum sucking fagots) And He was celebrating? Pisspuke and Cintucky both love having players like that, That is why it is fun to watch them play each other in hopes they kill somebody. The NFL claims they want to clean up their image but yet they only fine these players smh. What is a 20k fine when you are making MILLIONS? Now I do think it was ignorant that Domican Suh kicked Be in the knee or whatever, There is no place for any of that but the NFL says they will "review" the case in other words they will take pay offs or whatever because what is there to review? IT IS ON FILM, That is all there is to look at.
LOl..woe is me again the Cleveland brown fan. Losing, the refs, and now all the teams are trying to injure us. They play too rough waa waa.
James Harrison was never a dirty player. He played football the same way all his life...then came 2013 when they made the helmet to helmet rules stricter. He gave notice to Mike Tomlin he wasn't going to change the way he played in spite of all the fines handed down against him.
He obviously did change the way he played.
Did you ever cry about TJ Wards hit?
3. Browns safety T.J. Ward on Bengals receiver Jordan Shipley. Ward got a penalty and a $15,000 fine, but he also got support from Browns defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, who praised Ward for βhitting him the way we teach him.β
If Harrison as a Brown knocked out 2 Steelers in one game then McCoy...add to that the spectacular and priceless slamming of a Browns fan to the turf on that Christmas Eve in 2005, you'd erect a statue of him right next to Jim Brown...the greatest abuser of women the NFL has ever known.
So go ahead you woe is me crybaby, resort to bottle throwing again...something you'll never see Steeler fans do.
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ya need to do some learnin. Steeler james "roid" Harrison was a dirty, violent, sissy cheapshot sob.
helmet to helmet ILLEGAL bliindside hits aren't always done by the steelers though.
but count how many times in the next video it's the steelers.
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