Draft Talk
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OK, I have a serious question in all this. We have kept 14 draft picks on the roster this year and are looking for similar next year. Yay!? So that would mean that in 4 years just as these young guys start hitting their stride, we have 14 contracts due at the same time. Then a similar number The next year. How is this sustainable? I am hip to drafting smart but it kinda looks like we are putting all the eggs in one basket.
OK, I have a serious question in all this. We have kept 14 draft picks on the roster this year and are looking for similar next year. Yay!? So that would mean that in 4 years just as these young guys start hitting their stride, we have 14 contracts due at the same time. Then a similar number The next year. How is this sustainable? I am hip to drafting smart but it kinda looks like we are putting all the eggs in one basket.
The philosophy of drafting a bunch of guys is that the whole thing is a crap shoot, so to speak, and nowhere near 14 will become legit players. Maybe we get 4 or 5?
Either way, having 14 quality players whose contracts are up qualifies firmly as a nice problem to have - the kind this team hasn't had in a long time.
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So none of the QB's are really separating themselves from the pack. As in right now no QB looks like they will actually be worth the 1st overall pick, but maybe instead the 5th or 10th, so on so forth. What everyone needs to keep in mind is that we are only half way through the college season. Every year one or two QB prospects come out of now where to end up being first round picks. Now are those prospects always good? No, but it just goes to show that even though there isn't a true #1 QB being pointed out right now, there is a decent chance there will be one by the end of the season.
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OK, I have a serious question in all this. We have kept 14 draft picks on the roster this year and are looking for similar next year. Yay!? So that would mean that in 4 years just as these young guys start hitting their stride, we have 14 contracts due at the same time. Then a similar number The next year. How is this sustainable? I am hip to drafting smart but it kinda looks like we are putting all the eggs in one basket.
OK, I have a serious question in all this. We have kept 14 draft picks on the roster this year and are looking for similar next year. Yay!? So that would mean that in 4 years just as these young guys start hitting their stride, we have 14 contracts due at the same time. Then a similar number The next year. How is this sustainable?
It's the way the NFL is......we have that many every year......look at it like this....most players have a 4 year or shorter contract.....and, we have 53 players(divide by 4).....which means we have an avg of 13 per year/////
Now....factor in that many have contracts that are shorter than 4 and you can increase that yearly total....
I looked it up and guess how many expire in 2017......that would be 26....and in 2018 its 11.....2019 its 16....2020 its 13....
Now factor in the odds of 14 rookies still being here after 4 years and all needing big contracts(that would be 1 in a million)(ie no chance)....
So...the contract thingy is a non issue......really
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OK, I have a serious question in all this. We have kept 14 draft picks on the roster this year and are looking for similar next year. Yay!? So that would mean that in 4 years just as these young guys start hitting their stride, we have 14 contracts due at the same time. Then a similar number The next year. How is this sustainable?
It's the way the NFL is......we have that many every year......look at it like this....most players have a 4 year or shorter contract.....and, we have 53 players(divide by 4).....which means we have an avg of 13 per year/////
Now....factor in that many have contracts that are shorter than 4 and you can increase that yearly total....
I looked it up and guess how many expire in 2017......that would be 26....and in 2018 its 11.....2019 its 16....2020 its 13....
Now factor in the odds of 14 rookies still being here after 4 years and all needing big contracts(that would be 1 in a million)(ie no chance)....
So...the contract thingy is a non issue......really
Good explanation. ThanksIt's the way the NFL is......we have that many every year......look at it like this....most players have a 4 year or shorter contract.....and, we have 53 players(divide by 4).....which means we have an avg of 13 per year/////
Now....factor in that many have contracts that are shorter than 4 and you can increase that yearly total....
I looked it up and guess how many expire in 2017......that would be 26....and in 2018 its 11.....2019 its 16....2020 its 13....
Now factor in the odds of 14 rookies still being here after 4 years and all needing big contracts(that would be 1 in a million)(ie no chance)....
So...the contract thingy is a non issue......really
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And if Kessler continues to get better for the reminder of the season despite the OL problems, then selecting a QB matters not either.
I agree Ag. I've posted it in other threads. How Kessler does the rest of the season will play a huge role how the Browns 2017 draft unfolds. So it's too early to speculate. Other than the D needs some serious help.
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I'll be watching Garrett closely today vs Bama. should be a great time.
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And if Kessler continues to get better for the reminder of the season despite the OL problems, then selecting a QB matters not either.
I agree Ag. I've posted it in other threads. How Kessler does the rest of the season will play a huge role how the Browns 2017 draft unfolds. So it's too early to speculate. Other than the D needs some serious help.
I agree Ag. I've posted it in other threads. How Kessler does the rest of the season will play a huge role how the Browns 2017 draft unfolds. So it's too early to speculate. Other than the D needs some serious help.
Agreed , But I would also say.. Cam Erving blows.. O-Line could use a good tweak , too!
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Kid is sucking wind after the first drive.
Meanwhile Allen has produced a pressure and I as I type, a sack.
#93 is still my preference.
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Garrett is clearly not 100%. Hasn't mounted anything near a QB pressure. Handled a couple times by Howard in PassPro.
Still I've been impressed with his awareness (covering the RB release for a screen near end of 1st Bama drive) and stacking and shedding the LT on a run stuff in Q2.
That said... I'd wouldn't mind drafting the Bama front seven... and their RB, Harris (pre-concussion)... and their TE/H-back, Howard.
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I mentioned Garrett attacking outside too often as opposed to ripping back inside. On that fake sweep QB counter he walked himself right out of the play and I feel like he does that quite a bit. Nearly surrendered a TD.
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So...I really like Allen.
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Trubisky quietly put up 300 yards 3 td and an 80% comp rate
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Garrett is clearly not 100%. Hasn't mounted anything near a QB pressure. Handled a couple times by Howard in PassPro.
Still I've been impressed with his awareness (covering the RB release for a screen near end of 1st Bama drive) and stacking and shedding the LT on a run stuff in Q2.
That said... I'd wouldn't mind drafting the Bama front seven... and their RB, Harris (pre-concussion)... and their TE/H-back, Howard.
Garrett is clearly not 100%. Hasn't mounted anything near a QB pressure. Handled a couple times by Howard in PassPro.
Still I've been impressed with his awareness (covering the RB release for a screen near end of 1st Bama drive) and stacking and shedding the LT on a run stuff in Q2.
That said... I'd wouldn't mind drafting the Bama front seven... and their RB, Harris (pre-concussion)... and their TE/H-back, Howard.
Garret will be fine once that high ankle sprain is fully healed. Those things sometimes linger through a whole season. They left him home for the S.C. game. Hope they let him off for New Mex State next week.
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Garrett created a lot of pressure and he did it against what will be a first rounder THIS year. Also a 3 year starter.
Allen is awesome but he's going against a 3 star true freshman who not an Aggie in the world can figure out why is still starting.
Context people.
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So none of the QB's are really separating themselves from the pack. As in right now no QB looks like they will actually be worth the 1st overall pick, but maybe instead the 5th or 10th, so on so forth. What everyone needs to keep in mind is that we are only half way through the college season. Every year one or two QB prospects come out of now where to end up being first round picks. Now are those prospects always good? No, but it just goes to show that even though there isn't a true #1 QB being pointed out right now, there is a decent chance there will be one by the end of the season.
So none of the QB's are really separating themselves from the pack. As in right now no QB looks like they will actually be worth the 1st overall pick, but maybe instead the 5th or 10th, so on so forth. What everyone needs to keep in mind is that we are only half way through the college season. Every year one or two QB prospects come out of now where to end up being first round picks. Now are those prospects always good? No, but it just goes to show that even though there isn't a true #1 QB being pointed out right now, there is a decent chance there will be one by the end of the season.
Tribisky?
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Trubisky quietly put up 300 yards 3 td and an 80% comp rate
Trubisky quietly put up 300 yards 3 td and an 80% comp rate
He could end up being the Carson Wentz of next years draft. A guy not given much consideration....but they shoots up the rankings like a rocket.
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Garrett created a lot of pressure and he did it against what will be a first rounder THIS year. Also a 3 year starter.
Allen is awesome but he's going against a 3 star true freshman who not an Aggie in the world can figure out why is still starting.
Context people.
Garrett created a lot of pressure and he did it against what will be a first rounder THIS year. Also a 3 year starter.
Allen is awesome but he's going against a 3 star true freshman who not an Aggie in the world can figure out why is still starting.
Context people.
Rewatched the game last night. MG was excellent against the run but definitely didn't create pressure consistently until the 4th quarter. However, I think you can tell by his lack of pursuit at times that his injury is still bothering him quite a bit.
Allen is an animal looking for meat. So is their entire D, of course. I've graded the OL in all 6 of our P5 games. Some great DL in there. Adams and Lawson from Auburn, Vanderdoes from UCLA, Barnett and Vereen at Tennessee, Wise at Arkansas. Nobody has the raw talent and strength Alabama does. We have a pretty good center and RG. They're both country boys. Oxen strong. They got tossed around like rag dolls all day in Tuscaloosa.
We can take anyone in that front 7 and I'd be giddy. Allen, Williams, Foster, Anderson, Hand, Payne, Tomlinson. Any one.
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Question for people:
- Assuming we win a game and end up picking second somehow (because the browns suck so much they even suck at sucking);
- Assuming Cody Kessler (or someone?) shows enough to convince us he's the guy to build around as QB;
- Assuming Myles Garrett goes first overall;
Who are you looking at?
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Question for people:
- Assuming we win a game and end up picking second somehow (because the browns suck so much they even suck at sucking);
- Assuming Cody Kessler (or someone?) shows enough to convince us he's the guy to build around as QB;
- Assuming Myles Garrett goes first overall;
Who are you looking at?
Question for people:
- Assuming we win a game and end up picking second somehow (because the browns suck so much they even suck at sucking);
- Assuming Cody Kessler (or someone?) shows enough to convince us he's the guy to build around as QB;
- Assuming Myles Garrett goes first overall;
Who are you looking at?
Here is the current CBS Sports Top Ten prospect ranks:
1 Myles Garrett DE 1 Texas A&M Jr 6-5 262 1
2 Jabrill Peppers SS 1 Michigan rSo 6-0 208 1
3 Jonathan Allen DE 2 Alabama Sr 6-3 291 1
4 Leonard Fournette RB 1 LSU Jr 6-1 230 1
5 Teez Tabor CB 1 Florida Jr 6-0 199 1
6 Malik McDowell DT 1 Michigan State Jr 6-5 282 1
7 Mitch Trubisky QB 1 North Carolina rJr 6-3 220 1
8 Cam Robinson OT 1 Alabama Jr 6-6 310 1
9 Jamal Adams SS 2 LSU Jr 6-0 211 1
10 Tim Williams OLB 1 Alabama Sr 6-3 252 1
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