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2017 Draft: Likely Record breaking number of picks

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  • I think we'll be trading up. We have a lot of young guys on this team and a good base. Let's shoot for some "superstars" now.

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
    #18

    @mld-woody said:

    I think we'll be trading up. We have a lot of young guys on this team and a good base. Let's shoot for some "superstars" now.

    When you think about it, we might already be drafting first in every round with a pretty hefty volume. I'm never opposed to drafting a superstar. Having said that, I've seen Courtney Brown and Trent Richardson labelled "can't miss" or "terrific pick" by a lot of draft analysts. The story was never as wonderful as the book cover. Inevitably someone reading this is wondering if I understand Courtney Brown got injured a couple times. Yes, I do and that's the story of our luck with the draft so I'm not going to be one that has been trained and confident to like putting all our marbles into 1 Superstar approaches or decreasing our picks in order to do so. I'm not sure we ever needed to do that for Winslow when we could have just settled for Ben Roethlisberger without losing another draft pick to select him.

    We have examples of trading up and trading back that ended up backfiring. Why? The people doing our drafting weren't very good at it.

    When we were closer to full strength this year, we looked like we improved at running the ball and defending the run. Depth looks to be the biggest issue there. The seemingly fine solution to Erving at Center is on IR with Bitonio right now unfortunately. I'm guessing and hoping we're going to go all in on improving our pass defense. We'll see...

  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
    #19

    So, with all these pix, you would think we can get at least 2 playmakers and a bit of depth. Now if that doesn't happen....can we lynch Hasslam then? He is the only common thread in the last 4 double digit loss seasons.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #20

    I see as this:

    In the past, when the Browns DID draft terrific players, those terrific players fit the criteria that

    the Browns coaches/FO's criteria.

    The failures strongly tend to NOT fit. All too often - the bad mistakes were poor character, didn't

    really love the game, not football smart, poor work ethic, great physical talent/poor locker room presence...

    not a team player... pick one of several of the bad qualities, and look at jm, gordon, richardson, gilbert...

    etc etc etc.

    The Browns now would NEVER have drafted these players. NOw, the Browns have a complete list of

    qualities they want their players to have in the draft OR fa.

    Before, it was more combine performance and college highlights. Anywhere in the top ten, I don't see the Browns

    trading up in this draft. How dumb would it have been, for an NFL team to trade up to the top of the draft,

    to get superstar Trent Richardson? Superstar Joey Bosa has 6 tackles and 2 sacks in three games.

    Cam Johnson, a 7th round pick of the niners, in his third year, in 3 games with the Browns.... has 8 sacks

    and 2 sacks.

    It isn't much a matter of drafting high, it's all about drafting the right guys. If the only right guy for you is goingto go higher,

    using the Browns current-comprehensive-criteria....then you trade up to get him, if it's cost-effective.

  • L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
    #21

    2012. Trent Richardson (Traded up to #3 overall) & Brandon Weeden

    2013. Bark Mingo

    2014. Justin Gilbert (Traded back to #8 overall) & Johnny Manziel (Traded up to #22 overall)

    2015. Danny Shelton & Cam Erving

    Ugh

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #22

    and can we stop with the tom brady example? that was a fluke, plain and simple. i think FOs have adjusted their scouting and analysis since that fluke to make brady at a 3rd rounder in today's market.

  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
    #23

    Hey! We might get enough picks to fill a short bus.

  • Hey! We might get enough picks to fill a short bus.

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #24

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Hey! We might get enough picks to fill a short bus.

    ...funny stuff!

    In the draft sweepstakes, the Jets, Chargers & Buc's got a win leaving us with just the Bears, Panthers & 49'ers filling our mirrors at one game back.

  • stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
    #25

    Well, lets get some depth, and for christ sake, some damn playmakers for a change.

  • Hey! We might get enough picks to fill a short bus.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
    #26

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Hey! We might get enough picks to fill a short bus.

    LOL, almost spewed my drink on that one....

    @orion said:

    ...funny stuff!

    In the draft sweepstakes, the Jets, Chargers & Buc's got a win leaving us with just the Bears, Panthers & 49'ers filling our mirrors at one game back.

    I predict the Bears and 49ers will be the serious competition. But not if we lose out..... Will the Lions pop the champagne if we win one? Right now the losing streak stands at 10, would be 18 if we hadn't beaten the 49ers. Tampa's 26 in a row would be in sight.

  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
    #27

    Right now I say use the first 5 or 6 picks on QBs. Then use the rest on the O line. Fuck the D, they suck anyway.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    Hey! We might get enough picks to fill a short bus.

    LOL, almost spewed my drink on that one....

    @orion said:

    ...funny stuff!

    In the draft sweepstakes, the Jets, Chargers & Buc's got a win leaving us with just the Bears, Panthers & 49'ers filling our mirrors at one game back.

    I predict the Bears and 49ers will be the serious competition. But not if we lose out..... Will the Lions pop the champagne if we win one? Right now the losing streak stands at 10, would be 18 if we hadn't beaten the 49ers. Tampa's 26 in a row would be in sight.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #28

    @hoorta said:

    LOL, almost spewed my drink on that one....

    I predict the Bears and 49ers will be the serious competition.

    Imagine that: Chicago and Cleveland playing in the World Series......their football teams fighting it out for the #1 overall draft pick.