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  • C Clevfan4life

    All tje other good dc's didnt want to come here

    @clevfan4life said:

    All tje other good dc's didnt want to come here

    or a guy like Schwartz would have caused a HC controversy? Bengals just scored again,(don't watch the replay)

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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    Common man, we only gave up over 500 plus yards. Rehiring Horton was beyond fuking stupid.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Common man, we only gave up over 500 plus yards. Rehiring Horton was beyond fuking stupid.

    and thats pretty much every game. Was during Ray part 1 and it still continues in Ray part 2. Did I mention I HATE RAY HORTON?

  • Who was the Defensive Coordinator when we had TJ Ward, D'Quell Jackson?

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
  • Opal312O Opal312

    Who was the Defensive Coordinator when we had TJ Ward, D'Quell Jackson?

    @opal312 said:

    Who was the Defensive Coordinator when we had TJ Ward, D'Quell Jackson?

    There was only one?

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  • I think Horton's doing a pretty decent job with what he has?

    I mean we could be a lot worse. If we gave up 1000 all purpose yards in a game we might have to consider getting rid of him.

  • @ghoolie said:

    When I was blasting the hiring of Romeo the homeo, and Phil Sewage, calling them coffee fetchers, Hoorta and Flugels assured me that the truth be told Ozzie owed his success to Sewage, and Belichik owed his success to Crennell.

    Of course those two bags of shit are nothings, and their bosses are still leaders.

    What is it with you fuck holes that you believe assistant coaches are anything more than fucking secretaries/coffee fetchers/scapegoats?

    Horton may suck Tom- but he has around zero talent to work with. The Browns have maybe 4-5 guys on our defense that even belong on an NFL roster. We picked up Nassib and Ogbah this year. So at the rate of 2 good defensive players a year, that the Harvard brainless trust are getting us- It should only take around 3-4 more years to have the possibility of having a good defense.

    I'm with you on this one- you get special team players in the 4th-round and lower- not starters (unless you get damn lucky.) Sushi and DePo Repo probably only have one more season to show how brilliant they are. Right now, the only excitement left is seeing if we can luck into a win. I put the over\under at 2- 1\2 wins before the season. I'd say your Vegas bet is looking like a lead pipe lock.

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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @ghoolie said:

    When I was blasting the hiring of Romeo the homeo, and Phil Sewage, calling them coffee fetchers, Hoorta and Flugels assured me that the truth be told Ozzie owed his success to Sewage, and Belichik owed his success to Crennell.

    Of course those two bags of shit are nothings, and their bosses are still leaders.

    What is it with you fuck holes that you believe assistant coaches are anything more than fucking secretaries/coffee fetchers/scapegoats?

    Horton may suck Tom- but he has around zero talent to work with. The Browns have maybe 4-5 guys on our defense that even belong on an NFL roster. We picked up Nassib and Ogbah this year. So at the rate of 2 good defensive players a year, that the Harvard brainless trust are getting us- It should only take around 3-4 more years to have the possibility of having a good defense.

    I'm with you on this one- you get special team players in the 4th-round and lower- not starters (unless you get damn lucky.) Sushi and DePo Repo probably only have one more season to show how brilliant they are. Right now, the only excitement left is seeing if we can luck into a win. I put the over\under at 2- 1\2 wins before the season. I'd say your Vegas bet is looking like a lead pipe lock.

    @hoorta said:

    Horton may suck Tom- but he has around zero talent to work with. The Browns have maybe 4-5 guys on our defense that even belong on an NFL roster. We picked up Nassib and Ogbah this year. So at the rate of 2 good defensive players a year, that the Harvard brainless trust are getting us- It should only take around 3-4 more years to have the possibility of having a good defense.

    I'm with you on this one- you get special team players in the 4th-round and lower- not starters (unless you get damn lucky.) Sushi and DePo Repo probably only have one more season to show how brilliant they are. Right now, the only excitement left is seeing if we can luck into a win. I put the over\under at 2- 1\2 wins before the season. I'd say your Vegas bet is looking like a lead pipe lock.

    Arizona Cardinals in 2011-12 no Talent

    Cleveland Browns in 2013 we have no talent!

    Tennessee Titans 2014-2015 No talent here!

    Cleveland Browns 2016 No talent to be found!

    Thats the problem with horton he just keeps getting on to teams with no talent real shame that...

    gftChrisG 1 Reply

  • depressing

  • poor poor horton

  • Watching the Cards and Seahawks get to 3-3 OT game because of defenses makes me sick when I think of today's game against Cincy.

    D BoneD hoortaH C 3 Replies
  • T TexasAg1969

    Watching the Cards and Seahawks get to 3-3 OT game because of defenses makes me sick when I think of today's game against Cincy.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Watching the Cards and Seahawks get to 3-3 OT game because of defenses makes me sick when I think of today's game against Cincy.

    These Ds are nasty....... Just like we used to be way back in the day.

    Browns149B miktoxicM 2 Replies

  • Interesting that the cardinals are only 4 years removed from horton...

  • D BoneD D Bone

    @texasag1969 said:

    Watching the Cards and Seahawks get to 3-3 OT game because of defenses makes me sick when I think of today's game against Cincy.

    These Ds are nasty....... Just like we used to be way back in the day.

    @d-bone said:

    These Ds are nasty....... Just like we used to be way back in the day.

    we were never as good as them
    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
    D BoneD 1 Reply

  • Man, it's not horton or hue. It's the lame draft that came from believing in analytics. I agree with hoorta that the new FO has another draft in them to prove they are worthy. If not i think the whole lot goes in another flush of a regime.

  • D BoneD D Bone

    @texasag1969 said:

    Watching the Cards and Seahawks get to 3-3 OT game because of defenses makes me sick when I think of today's game against Cincy.

    These Ds are nasty....... Just like we used to be way back in the day.

    @d-bone said:

    These Ds are nasty....... Just like we used to be way back in the day.

    Ds are nasty and the kickers friggin blow. Don't be surprised if AZ releases theirs tomorrow.

    And i was bitching about releasing our kicker weeks ago. Our kicker is head and shoulders above what's going on in AZ.

  • T TexasAg1969

    Watching the Cards and Seahawks get to 3-3 OT game because of defenses makes me sick when I think of today's game against Cincy.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Watching the Cards and Seahawks get to 3-3 OT game because of defenses makes me sick when I think of today's game against Cincy.

    Wow, 6-6 tie in OT. Guess I should have watched. Time to drag out the history books for the last time (if ever) a 5 quarter OT game ever went without a TD being scored.

    T 1 Reply

  • You mean that shitty draft and FO that have 8.5 of our 12 sacks, 3 of our 6 ints and the qb that has the most yards and TD and the best qb rating for a browns rook posted? Coaching apparently is never to be held accountable on this board. 0-11 so far 0-7 in regular season and tied for 2nd worst in FRANCHISE history. I really believe we can go all 0-20 first time in nfl btw

    miktoxicM 1 Reply
  • Browns149B Browns149

    @d-bone said:

    These Ds are nasty....... Just like we used to be way back in the day.

    we were never as good as them

    @browns149 said:

    we were never as good as them

    Our '80s Ds were pretty damn good. So was Belichick's D for our last playoff win against the Pats.

  • Zero firings until 2018 at the earliest.

    flyingfooldougF 1 Reply
  • C CaineDeSoulis

    @hoorta said:

    Horton may suck Tom- but he has around zero talent to work with. The Browns have maybe 4-5 guys on our defense that even belong on an NFL roster. We picked up Nassib and Ogbah this year. So at the rate of 2 good defensive players a year, that the Harvard brainless trust are getting us- It should only take around 3-4 more years to have the possibility of having a good defense.

    I'm with you on this one- you get special team players in the 4th-round and lower- not starters (unless you get damn lucky.) Sushi and DePo Repo probably only have one more season to show how brilliant they are. Right now, the only excitement left is seeing if we can luck into a win. I put the over\under at 2- 1\2 wins before the season. I'd say your Vegas bet is looking like a lead pipe lock.

    Arizona Cardinals in 2011-12 no Talent

    Cleveland Browns in 2013 we have no talent!

    Tennessee Titans 2014-2015 No talent here!

    Cleveland Browns 2016 No talent to be found!

    Thats the problem with horton he just keeps getting on to teams with no talent real shame that...

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Arizona Cardinals in 2011-12 no Talent

    Cleveland Browns in 2013 we have no talent!

    Tennessee Titans 2014-2015 No talent here!

    Cleveland Browns 2016 No talent to be found!

    Thats the problem with horton he just keeps getting on to teams with no talent real shame that...

    2011 Arizona - 18th in overall D

    2012 Arizona - 12th

    2014 Tennessee - 27th

    2015 Tennessee - 12th

    So the teams got better with him as DC. That being said, in 2013 Arizona were 8th, and in 2016 the Titans are 8th. So he might have had an impact, might not. I suspect, shockingly, there's more to it than stats.

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