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  • flyingfooldoug flyingfooldougF One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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    They quit the second half in bungle land. That's why Hue took off the headset and called out the D. I sure hope they quit. Because if that was playing hard in the 2nd half....we are screwed for at least 6 more years. We need some " boom booms"

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      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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      "boombooms"???

      I saw no quit in our play the 2nd half.

      I was surprised to see Hue first without his play card, then headset, then not use his last two TOs. Not that the game was winnable, but the contrast to the prior week's approach was stark.

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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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        I think that was due to the way the game had been going and having two qb's in the game - Kessler, banged up,

        and Hogan seeing his first action. The score didn't help matters.

        Meanwhile, Hogan is now listed as the first string qb.

        should be interesting.

        http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/10/25/browns-depth-chart-lists-kevin-hogan-as-first-string-quarterback/

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          I think that was due to the way the game had been going and having two qb's in the game - Kessler, banged up,

          and Hogan seeing his first action. The score didn't help matters.

          Meanwhile, Hogan is now listed as the first string qb.

          should be interesting.

          http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/10/25/browns-depth-chart-lists-kevin-hogan-as-first-string-quarterback/

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          Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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          @calfoxwc said:

          I think that was due to the way the game had been going and having two qb's in the game - Kessler, banged up,

          and Hogan seeing his first action. The score didn't help matters.

          Meanwhile, Hogan is now listed as the first string qb.

          should be interesting.

          http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/10/25/browns-depth-chart-lists-kevin-hogan-as-first-string-quarterback/

          Josh McCown is the official starting QB vs. the NY Jets per WKYC.
          Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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            "boombooms"???

            I saw no quit in our play the 2nd half.

            I was surprised to see Hue first without his play card, then headset, then not use his last two TOs. Not that the game was winnable, but the contrast to the prior week's approach was stark.

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            hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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            @tour2ma said:

            "boombooms"???

            I saw no quit in our play the 2nd half.

            I was surprised to see Hue first without his play card, then headset, then not use his last two TOs. Not that the game was winnable, but the contrast to the prior week's approach was stark.

            Tour, I agree with FFD. I really think they quit- for the first time this season. Maybe I quit too,the wines were more interesting than the game. It was out of reach, players went into survival mode.

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              @tour2ma said:

              "boombooms"???

              I saw no quit in our play the 2nd half.

              I was surprised to see Hue first without his play card, then headset, then not use his last two TOs. Not that the game was winnable, but the contrast to the prior week's approach was stark.

              Tour, I agree with FFD. I really think they quit- for the first time this season. Maybe I quit too,the wines were more interesting than the game. It was out of reach, players went into survival mode.

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              FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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              @hoorta said:

              Tour, I agree with FFD. I really think they quit- for the first time this season. Maybe I quit too,the wines were more interesting than the game. It was out of reach, players went into survival mode.

              I think the biggest wind out of sails moment was the last play of the first half. The Browns just scratched and clawed their way to a 14-10 score with the understanding they were getting the ball first in the second half. With about 6 seconds left and Cincy with the ball at about the 50 yard line - we gave a up a jump ball to AJ Green in the end zone. That sure seemed like an ideal time to put the 6'5" Pryor and his gigantic wing span out there. Just line him up deep so he can easily get into position to await the pass with hang time. Barnidge might not have been bad in that situation either considering the alternatives we gagged on.

              As much as hind sight 20/20 sucks, it can also work as a learning experience moving forward. That's why they watch film.

              I saw more frustration than quit from the players.

              I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                @hoorta said:

                Tour, I agree with FFD. I really think they quit- for the first time this season. Maybe I quit too,the wines were more interesting than the game. It was out of reach, players went into survival mode.

                I think the biggest wind out of sails moment was the last play of the first half. The Browns just scratched and clawed their way to a 14-10 score with the understanding they were getting the ball first in the second half. With about 6 seconds left and Cincy with the ball at about the 50 yard line - we gave a up a jump ball to AJ Green in the end zone. That sure seemed like an ideal time to put the 6'5" Pryor and his gigantic wing span out there. Just line him up deep so he can easily get into position to await the pass with hang time. Barnidge might not have been bad in that situation either considering the alternatives we gagged on.

                As much as hind sight 20/20 sucks, it can also work as a learning experience moving forward. That's why they watch film.

                I saw more frustration than quit from the players.

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                MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                @flugel said:

                I think the biggest wind out of sails moment was the last play of the first half. The Browns just scratched and clawed their way to a 14-10 score with the understanding they were getting the ball first in the second half.

                That was a killer, right there.....

                momentum meets ""POOF"

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                  @flugel said:

                  I think the biggest wind out of sails moment was the last play of the first half. The Browns just scratched and clawed their way to a 14-10 score with the understanding they were getting the ball first in the second half.

                  That was a killer, right there.....

                  momentum meets ""POOF"

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                  T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                  @mudfly said:

                  That was a killer, right there.....

                  momentum meets ""POOF"

                  No momentum met "DOOF".

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                  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                    "boombooms"???

                    I saw no quit in our play the 2nd half.

                    I was surprised to see Hue first without his play card, then headset, then not use his last two TOs. Not that the game was winnable, but the contrast to the prior week's approach was stark.

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                    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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                    @tour2ma said:

                    "boombooms"???

                    I saw no quit in our play the 2nd half.

                    I was surprised to see Hue first without his play card, then headset, then not use his last two TOs. Not that the game was winnable, but the contrast to the prior week's approach was stark.

                    Dude, the coach, Donovan, Deek, Grossi amongst others all say the team quit playing hard. I didn't exactly see Charlie Hustle anywhere on the field either. That's not being against the Browns... it's just not being a liar.
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                      @tour2ma said:

                      "boombooms"???

                      I saw no quit in our play the 2nd half.

                      I was surprised to see Hue first without his play card, then headset, then not use his last two TOs. Not that the game was winnable, but the contrast to the prior week's approach was stark.

                      Dude, the coach, Donovan, Deek, Grossi amongst others all say the team quit playing hard. I didn't exactly see Charlie Hustle anywhere on the field either. That's not being against the Browns... it's just not being a liar.
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                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                      @flyingfooldoug said:

                      Dude, the coach, Donovan, Deek, Grossi amongst others all say the team quit playing hard. I didn't exactly see Charlie Hustle anywhere on the field either. That's not being against the Browns... it's just not being a liar.

                      I did not call anyone a liar. Are you... Dude?

                      I simply did not see "quit". And if Hue said his team did, then google can't find it. Link?

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                        MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                        I cant say I saw them quit.....though that losing body language is starting to creep in......

                        Ive heard some comments suggesting we will get better in the second half, but personally, I doubt it......Usually, this is the time that the bad teams start to break down and the great teams get rolling.....injuries mount, teams figure out other teams, losers get tired and winners get energized.....

                        So....IF Hue gets this team to improve during the second half, I will give him mad props.....cause he's got his hands full and, as each loss gets piled on, he will start to lose players and their confidence in the plan....

                        How many weeks can you say "this is the week we win" and then, when you lose, try to say it again......and again......and again.....and again......and again......(am I at 11 yet??)......and again.......and again.....(11??....no?)......and again.......and again....and again......etc....

                        Cause the players are gonna look at Hue like....wtf is he talking about?......

                        So......will we slide into oblivion or will Hue work some majic and get better production from his troops going forward....Cal promised me they'd be good by the end of preseason....or after 3 games....or maybe at the mid point......or in the second half.....so Im hopeful

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                          T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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                          Mud-I had thought that as we got most of those rookies worked in we would start to see a much more competitive "second half" of the season. I did not factor in so many damn injuries, so who knows what will really happen. It does not look all that hopeful though.

                          A lot on Aggie websites are saying poor Garrett will be shipped off to die in the Cleveland dumpster fire. I'm a bit more hopeful for both than that in the long run.

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                            MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                            How deep are those injuries??......Coleman & Bito are the only 2 starters I think we're missing.....maybe Haden too?......

                            So, 19 out of 22 of our starters should be out there......want to add RGIII?.....I dont, cause McC is better.....

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                              How deep are those injuries??......Coleman & Bito are the only 2 starters I think we're missing.....maybe Haden too?......

                              So, 19 out of 22 of our starters should be out there......want to add RGIII?.....I dont, cause McC is better.....

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                              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                              @mudfly said:

                              How deep are those injuries??......Coleman & Bito are the only 2 starters I think we're missing.....maybe Haden too?......

                              So, 19 out of 22 of our starters should be out there......want to add RGIII?.....I dont, cause McC is better.....

                              Poyer? Des Bryant also qualifies, but more than "starters" have to be considered. Our defensive rotation suffers with Orchard, Dylan Wynn, and possibly Stample on IR.

                              Offensively? Small sample size but it looked like Reiter had a shot at solidifying our interior OL.

                              Then there's the "unproven" category including the likes of Shon Coleman and Devalve.

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                                @mudfly said:

                                How deep are those injuries??......Coleman & Bito are the only 2 starters I think we're missing.....maybe Haden too?......

                                So, 19 out of 22 of our starters should be out there......want to add RGIII?.....I dont, cause McC is better.....

                                Poyer? Des Bryant also qualifies, but more than "starters" have to be considered. Our defensive rotation suffers with Orchard, Dylan Wynn, and possibly Stample on IR.

                                Offensively? Small sample size but it looked like Reiter had a shot at solidifying our interior OL.

                                Then there's the "unproven" category including the likes of Shon Coleman and Devalve.

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                                MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
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                                @tour2ma said:

                                Poyer? Des Bryant also qualifies, but more than "starters" have to be considered. Our defensive rotation suffers with Orchard, Dylan Wynn, and possibly Stample on IR.

                                Offensively? Small sample size but it looked like Reiter had a shot at solidifying our interior OL.

                                Then there's the "unproven" category including the likes of Shon Coleman and Devalve.

                                Ok...forgot about Poyer...

                                Wynn and Stample have not played a single snap and are not an "injury factor" when assessing the teams chances this week....non entities so far....

                                Coleman and DeValve????.....Tour, you are really really reaching here......

                                And...Ill give you Orchard too..shoulda been starting all along......But, even when healthy, Hue had Schobert out there....smh

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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  Poyer? Des Bryant also qualifies, but more than "starters" have to be considered. Our defensive rotation suffers with Orchard, Dylan Wynn, and possibly Stample on IR.

                                  Offensively? Small sample size but it looked like Reiter had a shot at solidifying our interior OL.

                                  Then there's the "unproven" category including the likes of Shon Coleman and Devalve.

                                  Ok...forgot about Poyer...

                                  Wynn and Stample have not played a single snap and are not an "injury factor" when assessing the teams chances this week....non entities so far....

                                  Coleman and DeValve????.....Tour, you are really really reaching here......

                                  And...Ill give you Orchard too..shoulda been starting all along......But, even when healthy, Hue had Schobert out there....smh

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                                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                  @mudfly said:

                                  Coleman and DeValve????.....Tour, you are really really reaching here......

                                  Maybe... 😉

                                  Devalve is easier case, so him first. I saw WR skills on tape. He has a chance to be one of those "modern" TEs.

                                  Shon? Scratching my head on him. I know what I saw in his tape at LT. At this point feel like I'm not reaching.... more like flailing. But there was the injury/surgery and not all OTs can flip their technique, so I'll cling to that until preseason 2017.

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                                    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
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                                    24 unanswered points this week.....looked a bit like they quit playing at half time this week......definitely weren't flying around like they were in the first half.....

                                    havent seen us come out in the second half YET and show the advantage in effort or strategy adjustments...

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                                      Yep, I was impressed with the teams' energy in the first half, and then became equally embarrassed by their effort in the 2nd half...... Just a bad football team.

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                                        MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                                        and to just sit here and watch them hustle up and score in the last seconds just confirms, for me, that the effort wasnt there earlier and...when it finally came...it was too little too late...

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                                          and to just sit here and watch them hustle up and score in the last seconds just confirms, for me, that the effort wasnt there earlier and...when it finally came...it was too little too late...

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                                          hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                                          @mudfly said:

                                          and to just sit here and watch them hustle up and score in the last seconds just confirms, for me, that the effort wasnt there earlier and...when it finally came...it was too little too late...

                                          Exactly- the anti- clutch McClown can go back to the bench. and I actually though I was going to take my first strike int the Survivor pool. 0-16 here we come.

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