The players can't give up......keep fightin'
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"boombooms"???
I saw no quit in our play the 2nd half.
I was surprised to see Hue first without his play card, then headset, then not use his last two TOs. Not that the game was winnable, but the contrast to the prior week's approach was stark.
Dude, the coach, Donovan, Deek, Grossi amongst others all say the team quit playing hard. I didn't exactly see Charlie Hustle anywhere on the field either. That's not being against the Browns... it's just not being a liar."boombooms"???
I saw no quit in our play the 2nd half.
I was surprised to see Hue first without his play card, then headset, then not use his last two TOs. Not that the game was winnable, but the contrast to the prior week's approach was stark.
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Dude, the coach, Donovan, Deek, Grossi amongst others all say the team quit playing hard. I didn't exactly see Charlie Hustle anywhere on the field either. That's not being against the Browns... it's just not being a liar."boombooms"???
I saw no quit in our play the 2nd half.
I was surprised to see Hue first without his play card, then headset, then not use his last two TOs. Not that the game was winnable, but the contrast to the prior week's approach was stark.
Dude, the coach, Donovan, Deek, Grossi amongst others all say the team quit playing hard. I didn't exactly see Charlie Hustle anywhere on the field either. That's not being against the Browns... it's just not being a liar.
I did not call anyone a liar. Are you... Dude?
I simply did not see "quit". And if Hue said his team did, then google can't find it. Link?
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I cant say I saw them quit.....though that losing body language is starting to creep in......
Ive heard some comments suggesting we will get better in the second half, but personally, I doubt it......Usually, this is the time that the bad teams start to break down and the great teams get rolling.....injuries mount, teams figure out other teams, losers get tired and winners get energized.....
So....IF Hue gets this team to improve during the second half, I will give him mad props.....cause he's got his hands full and, as each loss gets piled on, he will start to lose players and their confidence in the plan....
How many weeks can you say "this is the week we win" and then, when you lose, try to say it again......and again......and again.....and again......and again......(am I at 11 yet??)......and again.......and again.....(11??....no?)......and again.......and again....and again......etc....
Cause the players are gonna look at Hue like....wtf is he talking about?......
So......will we slide into oblivion or will Hue work some majic and get better production from his troops going forward....Cal promised me they'd be good by the end of preseason....or after 3 games....or maybe at the mid point......or in the second half.....so Im hopeful
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Mud-I had thought that as we got most of those rookies worked in we would start to see a much more competitive "second half" of the season. I did not factor in so many damn injuries, so who knows what will really happen. It does not look all that hopeful though.
A lot on Aggie websites are saying poor Garrett will be shipped off to die in the Cleveland dumpster fire. I'm a bit more hopeful for both than that in the long run.
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How deep are those injuries??......Coleman & Bito are the only 2 starters I think we're missing.....maybe Haden too?......
So, 19 out of 22 of our starters should be out there......want to add RGIII?.....I dont, cause McC is better.....
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How deep are those injuries??......Coleman & Bito are the only 2 starters I think we're missing.....maybe Haden too?......
So, 19 out of 22 of our starters should be out there......want to add RGIII?.....I dont, cause McC is better.....
How deep are those injuries??......Coleman & Bito are the only 2 starters I think we're missing.....maybe Haden too?......
So, 19 out of 22 of our starters should be out there......want to add RGIII?.....I dont, cause McC is better.....
Poyer? Des Bryant also qualifies, but more than "starters" have to be considered. Our defensive rotation suffers with Orchard, Dylan Wynn, and possibly Stample on IR.
Offensively? Small sample size but it looked like Reiter had a shot at solidifying our interior OL.
Then there's the "unproven" category including the likes of Shon Coleman and Devalve.
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How deep are those injuries??......Coleman & Bito are the only 2 starters I think we're missing.....maybe Haden too?......
So, 19 out of 22 of our starters should be out there......want to add RGIII?.....I dont, cause McC is better.....
Poyer? Des Bryant also qualifies, but more than "starters" have to be considered. Our defensive rotation suffers with Orchard, Dylan Wynn, and possibly Stample on IR.
Offensively? Small sample size but it looked like Reiter had a shot at solidifying our interior OL.
Then there's the "unproven" category including the likes of Shon Coleman and Devalve.
Poyer? Des Bryant also qualifies, but more than "starters" have to be considered. Our defensive rotation suffers with Orchard, Dylan Wynn, and possibly Stample on IR.
Offensively? Small sample size but it looked like Reiter had a shot at solidifying our interior OL.
Then there's the "unproven" category including the likes of Shon Coleman and Devalve.
Ok...forgot about Poyer...
Wynn and Stample have not played a single snap and are not an "injury factor" when assessing the teams chances this week....non entities so far....
Coleman and DeValve????.....Tour, you are really really reaching here......
And...Ill give you Orchard too..shoulda been starting all along......But, even when healthy, Hue had Schobert out there....smh
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Poyer? Des Bryant also qualifies, but more than "starters" have to be considered. Our defensive rotation suffers with Orchard, Dylan Wynn, and possibly Stample on IR.
Offensively? Small sample size but it looked like Reiter had a shot at solidifying our interior OL.
Then there's the "unproven" category including the likes of Shon Coleman and Devalve.
Ok...forgot about Poyer...
Wynn and Stample have not played a single snap and are not an "injury factor" when assessing the teams chances this week....non entities so far....
Coleman and DeValve????.....Tour, you are really really reaching here......
And...Ill give you Orchard too..shoulda been starting all along......But, even when healthy, Hue had Schobert out there....smh
Coleman and DeValve????.....Tour, you are really really reaching here......
Maybe...
Devalve is easier case, so him first. I saw WR skills on tape. He has a chance to be one of those "modern" TEs.
Shon? Scratching my head on him. I know what I saw in his tape at LT. At this point feel like I'm not reaching.... more like flailing. But there was the injury/surgery and not all OTs can flip their technique, so I'll cling to that until preseason 2017.
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24 unanswered points this week.....looked a bit like they quit playing at half time this week......definitely weren't flying around like they were in the first half.....
havent seen us come out in the second half YET and show the advantage in effort or strategy adjustments...
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and to just sit here and watch them hustle up and score in the last seconds just confirms, for me, that the effort wasnt there earlier and...when it finally came...it was too little too late...
and to just sit here and watch them hustle up and score in the last seconds just confirms, for me, that the effort wasnt there earlier and...when it finally came...it was too little too late...
Exactly- the anti- clutch McClown can go back to the bench. and I actually though I was going to take my first strike int the Survivor pool. 0-16 here we come.
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It's so browns, so Josh McCown, to bring it back to within a FG and make the 2 points after spending four minutes strolling to the LoS and wasting time. Maybe we recover the onside kick, maybe not, but we didn't give ourselves much of a chance on that one. So Browns to go the extra mile to almost snatch victory from the jaws of defeat but not quite.
It's absolutely night and day though between the first and second half. First half they looked good, tackles were mostly being made (TD drive aside), and runners were being stopped at the point of contact. Second half, tackles were mostly missed (the receiving TD - four defenders had hands on him and he got through) and when they were made they were pushed back for a few more yards.
Is it a 'half time adjustments' thing or is it a conditioning thing? Is it a result of not having enough depth to be able to rely on backups more to keep the main guys fresh? Because right out of the gate, first two drives they went 3 & out, while we put 10 points on the board. Even from there, we outscored them in the second quarter, but just absolutely laid a turd in the second half.
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and to just sit here and watch them hustle up and score in the last seconds just confirms, for me, that the effort wasnt there earlier and...when it finally came...it was too little too late...
Exactly- the anti- clutch McClown can go back to the bench. and I actually though I was going to take my first strike int the Survivor pool. 0-16 here we come.
Exactly- the anti- cluch McClown can go back to the bench. and I actually though I was going to take my first strike int the Survivor pool. 0-16 here we come.
Gotta wonder who would win the game if played on a neutral field, the 2008 Detroit Lions or the Browns.
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That's what McCown does, lose. He makes you think he might be good for a half but for the rest of the game he fumbles, throws bad interceptions and takes too many sacks, and the Browns eventually end up losing the game.
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We've been competitive in basically every game but still have the top pick. I'm fine with it.
Anyone that thought this would take one off season to fix in insane.
Bring in some defenders next year and we've got something
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We've been competitive in basically every game but still have the top pick. I'm fine with it.
Anyone that thought this would take one off season to fix in insane.
Bring in some defenders next year and we've got something
We've been competitive in basically every game but still have the top pick. I'm fine with it.
Anyone that thought this would take one off season to fix in insane.
Bring in some defenders next year and we've got something
Unfortunately, you could have dog poop in your hands and technically you'd have something too.
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That's what McCown does, lose. He makes you think he might be good for a half but for the rest of the game he fumbles, throws bad interceptions and takes too many sacks, and the Browns eventually end up losing the game.
@the-user-from-cleveland said:
That's what McCown does, lose. He makes you think he might be good for a half but for the rest of the game he fumbles, throws bad interceptions and takes too many sacks, and the Browns eventually end up losing the game.
And starts throwing really inaccurate passes. As was once said about Vinny Testaverde- "he's just good enough to get you beat." Great guy, great competitor, mediocre QB.
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