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Browns Trade for Patriots LB Jamie Collins

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  • TypicalBrowns TypicalBrownsT
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    TypicalBrownsT TypicalBrowns wrote on last edited by TypicalBrowns
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    Browns trade for Jamie Collins, cost them a 3rd round compensatory pick.

    Good pick up.

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      Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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      I'm wondering why NE gave him away.

      Maybe a contract thing?

      "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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        TypicalBrownsT TypicalBrowns wrote on last edited by
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        He was in a contract year I guess Pats didn't want to pay him

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          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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          So...no need for Garrett now?

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            hx214H hx214 wrote on last edited by
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            Man... could you imagine breaking that guy the news??

            Haha.

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              Holy fuck. Jamie Collins!? That's awesome!

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                I do wonder how he feels about this

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                  OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                  Didn't know much about him in detail but sounds like what the doctor ordered:

                  “He doesn’t dominate in any one role like Luke Kuechly does in pass coverage and run defense, but he is very good at all facets of the game,” Kosko said of the 6-foot-3, 250-pound Collins. “Collins has the athleticism to cover TEs and HBs effectively, the explosiveness to rush the passer, and the size and strength to defend the run.”

                  -from http://nep.247sports.com/Bolt/Pro-Football-Focus-Jamie-Collins-is-AFCs-eighth-best-defender-46044679

                  "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    So we trade Mingo and a third for Collins and a fifth?

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                      W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                      Aw yeah. More southern blood on this squad.

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                        S Sanalove wrote on last edited by
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                        Guy is due for a massive pay day after the season. The front office must be confident that they can keep him. Good deal for the Browns if he is signed long term.

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                          L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                          Will just franchise him won't we?

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                            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                            OK, this is all lovely, but his contract is up after this year, did we, a 0-8 team, really give a third round pick for a guy to play 8 games and then almost certainly go sign somewhere else? There has to be something more to this, right, like we've spoken to him and he's going to extend his contract etc., but then why would he agree to that, rather than going in to free agency in march?

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                              OK, this is all lovely, but his contract is up after this year, did we, a 0-8 team, really give a third round pick for a guy to play 8 games and then almost certainly go sign somewhere else? There has to be something more to this, right, like we've spoken to him and he's going to extend his contract etc., but then why would he agree to that, rather than going in to free agency in march?

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                              OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by Osiris
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                              @gftchris said:

                              OK, this is all lovely, but his contract is up after this year, did we, a 0-8 team, really give a third round pick for a guy to play 8 games and then almost certainly go sign somewhere else? There has to be something more to this, right, like we've spoken to him and he's going to extend his contract etc., but then why would he agree to that, rather than going in to free agency in march?

                              We did not. If they can't re-sign him I can almost guarantee he will be the beneficiary of a franchise tag. It's the only way this move makes sense. I don't know who else on the Browns has a contract expiring at the end of the year but I can guarantee they aren't franchise-tag worthy.

                              "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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                                Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                                Mr. Biscuit 2017

                                I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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                                  @gftchris said:

                                  OK, this is all lovely, but his contract is up after this year, did we, a 0-8 team, really give a third round pick for a guy to play 8 games and then almost certainly go sign somewhere else? There has to be something more to this, right, like we've spoken to him and he's going to extend his contract etc., but then why would he agree to that, rather than going in to free agency in march?

                                  We did not. If they can't re-sign him I can almost guarantee he will be the beneficiary of a franchise tag. It's the only way this move makes sense. I don't know who else on the Browns has a contract expiring at the end of the year but I can guarantee they aren't franchise-tag worthy.

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                                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                  @osiris said:

                                  We did not. If they can't re-sign him I can almost guarantee he will be the beneficiary of a franchise tag. I don't know who else on the Browns has a contract expiring at the end of the year but I can guarantee they aren't franchise-tag worthy.

                                  They are not. The most notable players are Pryor (UFA) and Crowell (ERFA?), who we should strive to re-sign. Outside of that, it's names like Poyer, T Williams etc.

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                                    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                                    Collins is a good football player but can you imagine how the dude feels? Hey man, you're getting traded from the best organization and team in football to pretty much the worst. Oh also you still get to play in shitty cold weather.

                                    As long as he has a good attitude though this is a great pick-up. Collins is one of those dudes who just does everything well but nothing incredible which I LOVE at the LB position.

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                                      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                      His agent said he's 'not upset just wants to go where he's wanted' - I guess he forgot the '...and has a chance of winning a game this year'.

                                      Or, it could be a PR move? A signal to the players that it's not ok to give up on the season, that the FO and coaching staff is not giving up trying to win every damn game? Getting a guy who is a veteran of a winning organisation, injecting some winning mentality, if only for 6 months?

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                                        His agent said he's 'not upset just wants to go where he's wanted' - I guess he forgot the '...and has a chance of winning a game this year'.

                                        Or, it could be a PR move? A signal to the players that it's not ok to give up on the season, that the FO and coaching staff is not giving up trying to win every damn game? Getting a guy who is a veteran of a winning organisation, injecting some winning mentality, if only for 6 months?

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                                        OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                                        @gftchris said:

                                        His agent said he's 'not upset just wants to go where he's wanted' - I guess he forgot the '...and has a chance of winning a game this year'.

                                        Or, it could be a PR move? A signal to the players that it's not ok to give up on the season, that the FO and coaching staff is not giving up trying to win every damn game? Getting a guy who is a veteran of a winning organisation, injecting some winning mentality, if only for 6 months?

                                        All of the above. He sounds like the type of guy the defense needs... a well-rounded defender who can cover tight-ends, stop the run, and rush the passer. It doesn't hurt that it comes at a really low time for the fans and the team.

                                        "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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                                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                          The cost of this is apparently a 3rd round compensatory pick. For comparison, that's about where we got Kessler, and Joe Schobert was top of the fourth.

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