Browns set a franchise record!
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Can you give your opinion on this past draft? I think they blew it by passing on Wentz, Bosa, Elliot and many others. They should have drafted some play makers with those picks and stayed at number 2. I thought they would select the best players like most successful teams. They draft the best player available.
Have you noticed how the defense ignores the tight end position all year. Witten, wide open! I can't see any smidgen or glimmer of hope for this mess. Kessler isn't bad but he hangs onto the ball and isn't a playmaker like Prescott.
Every week the Browns revitalize somebody's career. I'm sick of this. It's ugly and not watchable. What will be Hue's excuse after this debacle? We have to play better? Come on Hue! Tell us the truth! These guys suck!
DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD! -
Shelton has looked good, PFF has him ranked as the top NT in the NFL
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It sure looks like we blew it so far, but time will tell.
Maybe not totally but so far it looks like we could have done better.
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Shelton has looked good, PFF has him ranked as the top NT in the NFL
Shelton has looked good, PFF has him ranked as the top NT in the NFL
Wow, I'm excited.
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Shelton has looked good, PFF has him ranked as the top NT in the NFL
Shelton has looked good, PFF has him ranked as the top NT in the NFL
Doesnt mean shit when the rest of the line isnt pullingbtheir weight. Plus pff are elite trolls, they say shit like the browns o line are one of the best in the nfl.
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Shelton has looked good, PFF has him ranked as the top NT in the NFL
Wow, I'm excited.
Wow, I'm excited.
Doesnt mean shit when the rest of the line isnt pullingbtheir weight. Plus pff are elite trolls, they say shit like the browns o line are one of the best in the nfl.
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Can you give your opinion on this past draft? I think they blew it by passing on Wentz, Bosa, Elliot and many others. They should have drafted some play makers with those picks and stayed at number 2. I thought they would select the best players like most successful teams. They draft the best player available.
Have you noticed how the defense ignores the tight end position all year. Witten, wide open! I can't see any smidgen or glimmer of hope for this mess. Kessler isn't bad but he hangs onto the ball and isn't a playmaker like Prescott.
Every week the Browns revitalize somebody's career. I'm sick of this. It's ugly and not watchable. What will be Hue's excuse after this debacle? We have to play better? Come on Hue! Tell us the truth! These guys suck!
Can you give your opinion on this past draft? I think they blew it by passing on Wentz, Bosa, Elliot and many others. They should have drafted some play makers with those picks and stayed at number 2. I thought they would select the best players like most successful teams. They draft the best player available.
Have you noticed how the defense ignores the tight end position all year. Witten, wide open! I can't see any smidgen or glimmer of hope for this mess. Kessler isn't bad but he hangs onto the ball and isn't a playmaker like Prescott.
Every week the Browns revitalize somebody's career. I'm sick of this. It's ugly and not watchable. What will be Hue's excuse after this debacle? We have to play better? Come on Hue! Tell us the truth! These guys suck!
We don't have a team to put around Wentz. Plus Kessler is looking like a good pick.
Zeke is running behind the best line in football. We would have been idiotic to take a HB that high.
Bosa looks good, but would he have as much success in our scheme?
Plus, we have a big 1st Rd this year as a result.
Anyone that thought this team would be 8-8 or something is insane. This was the first real house cleaning of our roster in years. We have 19 rookies on the roster. We've at least looked competitive in games.
We'll have one or two high picks next draft to take elite defensive prospects. Hopefully that along with the rest of our off season moves the defense to average. Next year there should be a sizeable improvement
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
i'm sad about the loss, but not surprised. Sure, drafting Bosa, Wentz or Elliot would be great but as many others have already said, they would not have the success on this team that they have on their current teams. Browns have too many holes to fill to invest a high pick in one single person.
Next year's draft? They sure do seem hell-bent on getting that #1 overall, but my bet is they trade down to acquire more picks because there are still tons of holes on this team. One stud QB or one stud linebacker won't help at this point. Both lines need help, the secondary is terrible, the o-line play has improved since the start of the season but still give up too many sacks/QB pressures. Both sides of the ball lack depth. it's depressing to think about, it's like the 1999 expansion team again
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On our way to the second 0-16 season
So easy to win the eliminator
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i'm sad about the loss, but not surprised. Sure, drafting Bosa, Wentz or Elliot would be great but as many others have already said, they would not have the success on this team that they have on their current teams. Browns have too many holes to fill to invest a high pick in one single person.
Next year's draft? They sure do seem hell-bent on getting that #1 overall, but my bet is they trade down to acquire more picks because there are still tons of holes on this team. One stud QB or one stud linebacker won't help at this point. Both lines need help, the secondary is terrible, the o-line play has improved since the start of the season but still give up too many sacks/QB pressures. Both sides of the ball lack depth. it's depressing to think about, it's like the 1999 expansion team again
i'm sad about the loss, but not surprised. Sure, drafting Bosa, Wentz or Elliot would be great but as many others have already said, they would not have the success on this team that they have on their current teams. Browns have too many holes to fill to invest a high pick in one single person.
Next year's draft? They sure do seem hell-bent on getting that #1 overall, but my bet is they trade down to acquire more picks because there are still tons of holes on this team. One stud QB or one stud linebacker won't help at this point. Both lines need help, the secondary is terrible, the o-line play has improved since the start of the season but still give up too many sacks/QB pressures. Both sides of the ball lack depth. it's depressing to think about, it's like the 1999 expansion team again
It's more than lacking depth- it's lacking quality starter material at damn near every position. I don't give a rat that there's a bunch of rookies on this team. Crap is crap, and there's a foul odor emanating from First Energy, and every Browns away game. Right now, this team is arguably worse than the 1999 edition. Today was a lesson to Sushi and DePo-repo how adding two impact players to a roster can make a difference. Instead of dumping every quality vet we had for a bunch of unproven rookies.
On our way to the second 0-16 season
So easy to win the eliminator
Ha- I started a trend there.
Don't forget, we have three outliers that have to be accounted for. I can see a multiple player tie. -
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The 97 team could beat this one.
The 97 team could beat this one.
I hope you meant '99. We didn't have a team in '97.
Debatable if we could beat the 2008 0-16 Lions or the '99 team though. -
Surprised they haven't eked one out, but not that they are a losing team. They've also played better in a lot of the games - especially early - than I expected.
This is year one of a TOTAL rebuild from FO down - and we're only just over half way through.
What, exactly, did anyone realistically expect? Especially when the owner is committed to building through the draft and passing on FA.
Instant gratification isn't possible given those parameters.
Personally, I haven't made up my mind about the FO and coaching staff after only half a season.
I just don't understand all the people who screamed for all the firings, then expect a Super Bowl team the following year - from draft picks?!
Watching a game like today just reinforces the tenet that Defense wins football games - and the Browns don't have one yet.
So, if you're only going to draft, then you keep drafting defense, defense, defense, defense until you have one.
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The 97 team could beat this one.
I hope you meant '99. We didn't have a team in '97.
Debatable if we could beat the 2008 0-16 Lions or the '99 team though. -
Can you give your opinion on this past draft? I think they blew it by passing on Wentz, Bosa, Elliot and many others. They should have drafted some play makers with those picks and stayed at number 2. I thought they would select the best players like most successful teams. They draft the best player available.
Have you noticed how the defense ignores the tight end position all year. Witten, wide open! I can't see any smidgen or glimmer of hope for this mess. Kessler isn't bad but he hangs onto the ball and isn't a playmaker like Prescott.
Every week the Browns revitalize somebody's career. I'm sick of this. It's ugly and not watchable. What will be Hue's excuse after this debacle? We have to play better? Come on Hue! Tell us the truth! These guys suck!
We don't have a team to put around Wentz. Plus Kessler is looking like a good pick.
Zeke is running behind the best line in football. We would have been idiotic to take a HB that high.
Bosa looks good, but would he have as much success in our scheme?
Plus, we have a big 1st Rd this year as a result.
Anyone that thought this team would be 8-8 or something is insane. This was the first real house cleaning of our roster in years. We have 19 rookies on the roster. We've at least looked competitive in games.
We'll have one or two high picks next draft to take elite defensive prospects. Hopefully that along with the rest of our off season moves the defense to average. Next year there should be a sizeable improvement
We don't have a team to put around Wentz. Plus Kessler is looking like a good pick.
HA!! you're full of shit. i watched every snap of the giants game yesterday and that kid is FRANCHISE period. have a team around him or not, who gives a fuck once you know you have him and can move on.....
people are tools, like our FO.
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I don't believe they've quit. What I have a hard time believing is how clueless some of these guys in the defensive backfield seem to be.
Missed tackles, blown assignments are way too frequent. And yeah, lining up offsides is totally inexcusable.
I didn't think 0-16 was possible....shit it might happen.
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We don't have a team to put around Wentz. Plus Kessler is looking like a good pick.
HA!! you're full of shit. i watched every snap of the giants game yesterday and that kid is FRANCHISE period. have a team around him or not, who gives a fuck once you know you have him and can move on.....
people are tools, like our FO.
All we need now is a left hand monkey wrenchHA!! you're full of shit. i watched every snap of the giants game yesterday and that kid is FRANCHISE period. have a team around him or not, who gives a fuck once you know you have him and can move on.....
people are tools, like our FO.
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HA!!
and people still couldn't figure it out.
must be the water in the pierogies.
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