***Official Browns Vs. Cowboys Game Day Thread***
-
deja vu on the missed tackles...
I laughed when TJ got trucked last nite... maybe more like shucked...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
it's 1
Joe Thomas is a first ballot HOFer. After that they have blown EVERY OTHER PICK
Haden? Sheard? Mack? Ward? Schwartz? Shelton?
Putting something in caps doesn't make it accurate.
Haden? Sheard? Mack? Ward? Schwartz? Shelton?
Putting something in caps doesn't make it accurate.
Haden was a good pick. Sheard had a cup of coffee. Mack was very good. Ward cup of coffee. Schwartz good for a year. Shelton jury is still out. While all their decisions haven't failed they are the WORST franchise in professional sports.
-
Not sure what the hell cup of coffee means. Schwartz was good for a couple years - on us we didn't sign him.
What jury, where is out on Danny? Year two and he's become one of the best NT in the NFL.
-
Not sure what the hell cup of coffee means. Schwartz was good for a couple years - on us we didn't sign him.
What jury, where is out on Danny? Year two and he's become one of the best NT in the NFL.
Not sure what the hell cup of coffee means. Schwartz was good for a couple years - on us we didn't sign him.
What jury, where is out on Danny? Year two and he's become one of the best NT in the NFL.
Sheard and Ward weren't on the team long enough to be a real impact. Schwartz had a below average 2014, improved in 2015 and then left. Shelton isn't a top 20 defensive tackle in the NFL. Calling him a nose tackle puts him in a very small group.
-
Not sure what the hell cup of coffee means. Schwartz was good for a couple years - on us we didn't sign him.
What jury, where is out on Danny? Year two and he's become one of the best NT in the NFL.
Sheard and Ward weren't on the team long enough to be a real impact. Schwartz had a below average 2014, improved in 2015 and then left. Shelton isn't a top 20 defensive tackle in the NFL. Calling him a nose tackle puts him in a very small group.
You're fucking with me on all of this, right?Sheard and Ward weren't on the team long enough to be a real impact. Schwartz had a below average 2014, improved in 2015 and then left. Shelton isn't a top 20 defensive tackle in the NFL. Calling him a nose tackle puts him in a very small group.
Jabaal led the team in sacks and forced fumbles as a rookie alone and was given nods on a couple all rookie publications. 2012 he was solid with 7 sacks. Hurt the year after and still got half dozen and as we know was out of place under Pettine and O'Neil. He was with the team long enough for the Pats to take great interest in him.
Likewise with Ward who went to a pro bowl under us and turned into a dependable, middle range enforcer.
Both of them should have been retained but weren't. Not their fault.
Shelton is #2 in run stop percentage right behind another lane clog monster in Damon Harrison. He's upped his QB pressure numbers and sack count and as it stands IS one of the better NT's in the NFL.
As for Schwartz - he graded as a top 15 tackle in the 2014 season as well as 15. I won't continue any further because your posts are rooted in piss poor opinion and clearly dont take common sense or fact into consideration.
-
Sheard was an effective player for the Browns for 3 years, not great but effective. 3 years of service is far from changing the course of the franchise.
Ward again a 3 year guy who was a very enforcer but again 3 years only.
I've gone on record many times here saying that I wish both were on the team and since they aren't not considering them FO wins. You may think drafting players, seeing progress and letting them walk are great FO moves but I don't.
I don't see Danny Shelton as a game changer, maybe you do. Meder has similar numbers to Shelton this year with less opportunity.
Schwartz is a PFF wet dream, as is every Browns OLine. Funny they never seem to look the same on the field as they do when PFF ranks them.
-
Sheard was an effective player for the Browns for 3 years, not great but effective. 3 years of service is far from changing the course of the franchise.
Ward again a 3 year guy who was a very enforcer but again 3 years only.
I've gone on record many times here saying that I wish both were on the team and since they aren't not considering them FO wins. You may think drafting players, seeing progress and letting them walk are great FO moves but I don't.
I don't see Danny Shelton as a game changer, maybe you do. Meder has similar numbers to Shelton this year with less opportunity.
Schwartz is a PFF wet dream, as is every Browns OLine. Funny they never seem to look the same on the field as they do when PFF ranks them.
Sheard was an effective player for the Browns for 3 years
liked sheard a lot as a brown. i like pitt (no not arm pit or stool pit)... especially when wannstedt was the HC. i was hoping sheard would be one of those 'foundation' players along with some other guys that seemed promising in another regime's plans.
ehhh......
-
What the shit are you reading that somehow implies I think I'm content seeing either Ward or Sheard not on this roster?
Was there something in there that said the opposite of me wanting them resigned? Nope... I just checked. So tell me how you arrived at that conclusion.
Both are good football players that improve a team. Both should still be with the Browns but that wasn't mine or anybody else's decision to let them go. Sure they weren't franchise changers but no every player is or has to be. Sometimes you just draft good players and there is nothing wrong with that. The backbone of everyteam consists of those kind of guys.
Im not the only one that sees Danny as a game changer. What numbers are you referring to that separate Meder from Danny? I'd love to see them because if you're willing to use numbers to support your argument yet discounting Shelton or Schwartz using those same numbers then you have no arguement because youre contradicting yourself.
PFF aside you're right, the Browns line doesn't look the same. Funny how it's the right side where the bulk of the pressures and sacks have come from now that Schwartz is gone.
Looks waaaaay different, eh?
Like I said, you have nothing. You're willing to reject reality and substitute your own. Those people are impossible to reason with.
But when Danny gets a pro bowl nod, or at least starts getting more mention on main stream analysts (glorified hype men) I'll make sure to remind you of that just like when DBone said Bosa was average.
-
Hey, speaking of PFF!
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-pff-midseason-all-pro-team/
Danny getting the nod at NT. Only problem is the name recognition and lack of team success that might hold him back from the pro bowl nod. Maybe?
-
Hey, speaking of PFF!
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-pff-midseason-all-pro-team/
Danny getting the nod at NT. Only problem is the name recognition and lack of team success that might hold him back from the pro bowl nod. Maybe?
Hey, speaking of PFF!
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-pff-midseason-all-pro-team/
Danny getting the nod at NT. Only problem is the name recognition and lack of team success that might hold him back from the pro bowl nod. Maybe?
Interior DL that go to the pro-bowl tend to be the 'flashy' types that make big plays - ie, 4-3 DTs, not NTs. Donald, Suh etc. At least, that's how it seems to me.
-
On Sunday the Steelers will show you how to beat the Cowboys.
After you show the Steelers how to beat the Ravens tonight.
-
On Sunday the Steelers will show you how to beat the Cowboys.
After you show the Steelers how to beat the Ravens tonight.
On Sunday the Steelers will show you how to beat the Cowboys.
After you show the Steelers how to beat the Ravens tonight.
Steelers defense is only incrementally better than the Browns.
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login