Absolutely Effing Furious
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A game won by mccown is meaningless now. A game won by kessler is worth a lot more, even if it bumps us out of the first pick.
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Gotta agree with this. First pick is meaningless. We can blow it with any top 6 pick we get just as easily as the number one overall. Kessler needs to play.
Unless Hue has already decided that he was wrong about Kessler and is already looking through the 2017 draft for his QB of the future. But if he hasn't then that makes his decision to pull Th. absolutely ridiculous.
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Gotta agree with this. First pick is meaningless. We can blow it with any top 6 pick we get just as easily as the number one overall. Kessler needs to play.
Unless Hue has already decided that he was wrong about Kessler and is already looking through the 2017 draft for his QB of the future. But if he hasn't then that makes his decision to pull Th. absolutely ridiculous.
Unless Hue has already decided that he was wrong about Kessler and is already looking through the 2017 draft for his QB of the future. But if he hasn't then that makes his decision to pull Th. absolutely ridiculous.
Well, after last weeks game(and this weeks), Hue was kind of hard on Kess.....(for those who listened to his pressy)....
Basically said Kess was missing plays.....not being aggressive......not stretching the field.....and not scoring.....or winning....
dink, dink, dink, dunk...
Sooo, do you stick with the guy who is playing it too safe?.....who isnt doing the things needed to win?......who isnt seeing the field?.......or do you go with another guy who's gonna try harder, see more opportunities and take a few more chances...???
Yeah, McCown screwed the goose, but at least there was an effort made to improve the situation////
Sorry guys, we've been saying it all along.....Kess doesnt have the tools(or mentality) to be a star QB in this league....
Seems obvious to me.....and, maybe now, starting to seem that way to Hue too.....
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Whoopsies, I ain't a coach, but was that Drango or turnstile Erving that totally blew that assignment? With a Haha to Ghoolie looks like Joe has his guy under total control.
Whoopsies, I ain't a coach, but was that Drango or turnstile Erving that totally blew that assignment? With a Haha to Ghoolie looks like Joe has his guy under total control.
I replayed this a couple times before I joined the Tavern Thursday nite. As he is wont to do, Cam chased the DT who lined up in the gap between he and Greco and charged across Greco face. Cam never checked to his left despite the lack of threat to his right.
Roll the tape of this replay forward and after the sack you'll see Drango, by then turned to the camera, whip his head back around with an arm motion as if to ask, "Where'd you go, Cam?"
Sooo, do you stick with the guy who is playing it too safe?.....who isnt doing the things needed to win?......who isnt seeing the field?.......or do you go with another guy who's gonna try harder, see more opportunities and take a few more chances...???
Ah.... along the lines of my speculation a few minutes ago.
Here's the thing... Kess' safety first, game manager approach is perfect for a good team with a strong Defense... the team we want to be. But obviously that ain't us not right now.
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Unless Hue has already decided that he was wrong about Kessler and is already looking through the 2017 draft for his QB of the future. But if he hasn't then that makes his decision to pull Th. absolutely ridiculous.
Well, after last weeks game(and this weeks), Hue was kind of hard on Kess.....(for those who listened to his pressy)....
Basically said Kess was missing plays.....not being aggressive......not stretching the field.....and not scoring.....or winning....
dink, dink, dink, dunk...
Sooo, do you stick with the guy who is playing it too safe?.....who isnt doing the things needed to win?......who isnt seeing the field?.......or do you go with another guy who's gonna try harder, see more opportunities and take a few more chances...???
Yeah, McCown screwed the goose, but at least there was an effort made to improve the situation////
Sorry guys, we've been saying it all along.....Kess doesnt have the tools(or mentality) to be a star QB in this league....
Seems obvious to me.....and, maybe now, starting to seem that way to Hue too.....
Well, after last weeks game(and this weeks), Hue was kind of hard on Kess.....(for those who listened to his pressy)....
Basically said Kess was missing plays.....not being aggressive......not stretching the field.....and not scoring.....or winning....
dink, dink, dink, dunk...
Sooo, do you stick with the guy who is playing it too safe?.....who isnt doing the things needed to win?......who isnt seeing the field?.......or do you go with another guy who's gonna try harder, see more opportunities and take a few more chances...???
Yeah, McCown screwed the goose, but at least there was an effort made to improve the situation////
Sorry guys, we've been saying it all along.....Kess doesnt have the tools(or mentality) to be a star QB in this league....
Seems obvious to me.....and, maybe now, starting to seem that way to Hue too.....
I've been trying to remain positive about Kessler, and it's easy to root for the kid. Unfortunately, he is Colt McCoy 2.0: undersized, under-armed, 3rd round developmental 3rd string QB with good intangibles who should be riding the pine.
Yeah, he's still way better than Brandon Weeden or Johnny Manziel, but that's not good enough. I hope that there is a worthy QB in this draft class...
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Whoopsies, I ain't a coach, but was that Drango or turnstile Erving that totally blew that assignment? With a Haha to Ghoolie looks like Joe has his guy under total control.
The sacker was lined up pretty much in front of Drango. Why Drango chose not to block him is beyond me. I'm wondering who Drango thought he was supposed to block if not the guy lined up in front of him. The LB'er in the area bolted to the left at the sanp. Erving, on the other hand, is in his own world...as usual.
A team cannot play football with offensive line play like our team gets.
It's as if we targeted bums in the draft.
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The sacker was lined up pretty much in front of Drango. Why Drango chose not to block him is beyond me. I'm wondering who Drango thought he was supposed to block if not the guy lined up in front of him. The LB'er in the area bolted to the left at the sanp. Erving, on the other hand, is in his own world...as usual.
A team cannot play football with offensive line play like our team gets.
It's as if we targeted bums in the draft.
The sacker was lined up pretty much in front of Drango. Why Drango chose not to block him is beyond me. I'm wondering who Drango thought he was supposed to block if not the guy lined up in front of him. The LB'er in the area bolted to the left at the sanp. Erving, on the other hand, is in his own world...as usual.
A team cannot play football with offensive line play like our team gets.
It's as if we targeted bums in the draft.
But.....but.........but...........they are a dime a dozen aren't they? And Cam needs a new nickname that fits better than Turnstile. I was thinking maybe Escalator because you can run downhill around him on the open stairs or just right over the top. Your choice gets you there just as quickly either way.
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For the first time I'm really worried about the coaching staff. It's more than just lack of talent right now, last night was pathetic
For the first time I'm really worried about the coaching staff. It's more than just lack of talent right now, last night was pathetic
honestly this is the first time I thought about haslem moving the team to L.A
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For the first time I'm really worried about the coaching staff. It's more than just lack of talent right now, last night was pathetic
honestly this is the first time I thought about haslem moving the team to L.A
honestly this is the first time I thought about haslem moving the team to L.A
what has lam really needs to do is sell the team. it'd be nice if there were a contingency of wealthy celebs/sport's fans who could become partners and form a trust for the city of cleveland and do what the red sox did when they became relevant again.
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honestly this is the first time I thought about haslem moving the team to L.A
what has lam really needs to do is sell the team. it'd be nice if there were a contingency of wealthy celebs/sport's fans who could become partners and form a trust for the city of cleveland and do what the red sox did when they became relevant again.
what has lam really needs to do is sell the team. it'd be nice if there were a contingency of wealthy celebs/sport's fans who could become partners and form a trust for the city of cleveland and do what the red sox did when they became relevant again.
just as long as we stay in Cleveland hell yes sell the damn team haslem
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Whoopsies, I ain't a coach, but was that Drango or turnstile Erving that totally blew that assignment? With a Haha to Ghoolie looks like Joe has his guy under total control.
Whoopsies, I ain't a coach, but was that Drango or turnstile Erving that totally blew that assignment? With a Haha to Ghoolie looks like Joe has his guy under total control.
Im having a wicked silly time digesting this picture. I don't know what's going on. Obviously it's a whiff on a blocking assignment, but what is homeslice doing at this precise moment? It's as if he whiffed the block but sort of passed him off thinking nah the FB/RB will pick that up. As if he's staying in place cause he has to be vigilant for that late zone blitz. I mean look at the seperation the defender already has, that's a PRIMARY FRONT LINE PASS RUSHER. Not some track star from the secondary that timed the snap right. And our guard is literally left in the dust. It doesn't even look like he cares that our QB is about to get killed.
These are the killshots that have made me sick for years and why PFF can eat my whole ass about our O line being amongst the best. They've been giving up these kinds of pathways to the QB to primary front 4 rushers for years. This is why our QB's are in the protocol multiple times a year...cause the big boys upfront just get to TEE OFF on them on a regular basis. What in the all fuck? OL get beat, happens every sunday i get that....but it seems like when other teams OL get beat the defender is still sloughing off his OL when he grabs the QB. Other OL just seem to be around the play so they gave it their best, you can't stop good pass rushers all the time..but you want to impede their momentum so they don't crush your QB. Our OL just can't do this and I don't know why. That picture, if it hasn't been doctored...is just amazing. THe defender is 3-4 yds past the guard and the guard has barely turned his pads backward.
sigh
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I didn't watch the game live.
Judging by stills id say it was a slide protect and Erving called one way only to not help out his inside shoulder when not blocking.
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Slide protect? Slide to the unoccupied gap so the dl has a clr unimpeded path to the qb? Lol. Maybe im not seeing everything in this picture but dont u usually slide somewhere if the defense is loading up one side with more guys than u have blockers? Im only seeing a 4 man rush with everyone else miles downfield. I mean thetes no one even close. And drango just doesnt look like he's interested in following the guy that beat him. Maybe he thought an inside screen was called and he was supposedto release his man upfield?
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Don't be shocked that Ray Farmer made a bad draft pick.
Erving is terrible, and should be cut.
I hope one of our seconds next draft is C.
Also not worth worrying about - it's glaringly obvious. Or, at least, it should be.
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Don't be shocked that Ray Farmer made a bad draft pick.
Erving is terrible, and should be cut.
I hope one of our seconds next draft is C.
Also not worth worrying about - it's glaringly obvious. Or, at least, it should be.
Don't be shocked that Ray Farmer made a bad draft pick.
Erving is terrible, and should be cut.
I hope one of our seconds next draft is C.
Also not worth worrying about - it's glaringly obvious. Or, at least, it should be.
It's like Farmer just read a few online draft boards and picked according to what he thought was position need. Except for receiver.
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We need to hope that Erving can be a serviceable OT now. Does it completely suck that yet another first round pick isn't working out? Yes, yes it does. But a team always needs OL depth, so maybe he can provide that. *sigh*
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I don't like that we're getting our asses handed to us every game. We aren't even competing
I don't like that we're getting our asses handed to us every game. We aren't even competing
how dem analytics goin these days....pfffffft...oh yeah, lets not draft elliot, bosa, dak,,,etc......yeah, we will continue to get our ass kicked every sunday til who knows when....
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