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  • For the first time I'm really worried about the coaching staff. It's more than just lack of talent right now, last night was pathetic

    @londonbrown said:

    For the first time I'm really worried about the coaching staff. It's more than just lack of talent right now, last night was pathetic

    honestly this is the first time I thought about haslem moving the team to L.A

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    @londonbrown said:

    For the first time I'm really worried about the coaching staff. It's more than just lack of talent right now, last night was pathetic

    honestly this is the first time I thought about haslem moving the team to L.A

    @syd said:

    honestly this is the first time I thought about haslem moving the team to L.A

    what has lam really needs to do is sell the team. it'd be nice if there were a contingency of wealthy celebs/sport's fans who could become partners and form a trust for the city of cleveland and do what the red sox did when they became relevant again.

  • @syd said:

    honestly this is the first time I thought about haslem moving the team to L.A

    what has lam really needs to do is sell the team. it'd be nice if there were a contingency of wealthy celebs/sport's fans who could become partners and form a trust for the city of cleveland and do what the red sox did when they became relevant again.

    @miktoxic said:

    what has lam really needs to do is sell the team. it'd be nice if there were a contingency of wealthy celebs/sport's fans who could become partners and form a trust for the city of cleveland and do what the red sox did when they became relevant again.

    just as long as we stay in Cleveland hell yes sell the damn team haslem

  • Whats bad for our Qb's is the constant collapse of our the cock pit due to Injuries... It's affected the whole team.. if we go 0-16 as it appears.. are the scratch your head moments by "Hueless" enough to can him.. Thats the question on Jimmahs mind..

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    Whoopsies, I ain't a coach, but was that Drango or turnstile Erving that totally blew that assignment? With a Haha to Ghoolie looks like Joe has his guy under total control.

    @d-bone said:

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    Whoopsies, I ain't a coach, but was that Drango or turnstile Erving that totally blew that assignment? With a Haha to Ghoolie looks like Joe has his guy under total control.

    Im having a wicked silly time digesting this picture. I don't know what's going on. Obviously it's a whiff on a blocking assignment, but what is homeslice doing at this precise moment? It's as if he whiffed the block but sort of passed him off thinking nah the FB/RB will pick that up. As if he's staying in place cause he has to be vigilant for that late zone blitz. I mean look at the seperation the defender already has, that's a PRIMARY FRONT LINE PASS RUSHER. Not some track star from the secondary that timed the snap right. And our guard is literally left in the dust. It doesn't even look like he cares that our QB is about to get killed.

    These are the killshots that have made me sick for years and why PFF can eat my whole ass about our O line being amongst the best. They've been giving up these kinds of pathways to the QB to primary front 4 rushers for years. This is why our QB's are in the protocol multiple times a year...cause the big boys upfront just get to TEE OFF on them on a regular basis. What in the all fuck? OL get beat, happens every sunday i get that....but it seems like when other teams OL get beat the defender is still sloughing off his OL when he grabs the QB. Other OL just seem to be around the play so they gave it their best, you can't stop good pass rushers all the time..but you want to impede their momentum so they don't crush your QB. Our OL just can't do this and I don't know why. That picture, if it hasn't been doctored...is just amazing. THe defender is 3-4 yds past the guard and the guard has barely turned his pads backward.

    sigh

  • I didn't watch the game live.

    Judging by stills id say it was a slide protect and Erving called one way only to not help out his inside shoulder when not blocking.

  • Slide protect? Slide to the unoccupied gap so the dl has a clr unimpeded path to the qb? Lol. Maybe im not seeing everything in this picture but dont u usually slide somewhere if the defense is loading up one side with more guys than u have blockers? Im only seeing a 4 man rush with everyone else miles downfield. I mean thetes no one even close. And drango just doesnt look like he's interested in following the guy that beat him. Maybe he thought an inside screen was called and he was supposedto release his man upfield?

  • Don't be shocked that Ray Farmer made a bad draft pick.

    Erving is terrible, and should be cut.

    I hope one of our seconds next draft is C.

    Also not worth worrying about - it's glaringly obvious. Or, at least, it should be.

  • Don't be shocked that Ray Farmer made a bad draft pick.

    Erving is terrible, and should be cut.

    I hope one of our seconds next draft is C.

    Also not worth worrying about - it's glaringly obvious. Or, at least, it should be.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Don't be shocked that Ray Farmer made a bad draft pick.

    Erving is terrible, and should be cut.

    I hope one of our seconds next draft is C.

    Also not worth worrying about - it's glaringly obvious. Or, at least, it should be.

    It's like Farmer just read a few online draft boards and picked according to what he thought was position need. Except for receiver.

  • We need to hope that Erving can be a serviceable OT now. Does it completely suck that yet another first round pick isn't working out? Yes, yes it does. But a team always needs OL depth, so maybe he can provide that. *sigh*

  • I don't like that we're getting our asses handed to us every game. We aren't even competing

    @bbedward said:

    I don't like that we're getting our asses handed to us every game. We aren't even competing

    how dem analytics goin these days....pfffffft...oh yeah, lets not draft elliot, bosa, dak,,,etc......yeah, we will continue to get our ass kicked every sunday til who knows when....

  • @bbedward said:

    I don't like that we're getting our asses handed to us every game. We aren't even competing

    how dem analytics goin these days....pfffffft...oh yeah, lets not draft elliot, bosa, dak,,,etc......yeah, we will continue to get our ass kicked every sunday til who knows when....

    @browns52 said:

    how dem analytics goin these days....pfffffft...oh yeah, lets not draft elliot, bosa, dak,,,etc......yeah, we will continue to get our ass kicked every sunday til who knows when....

    At least we didn't lose this Sunday

  • @bbedward said:

    I don't like that we're getting our asses handed to us every game. We aren't even competing

    how dem analytics goin these days....pfffffft...oh yeah, lets not draft elliot, bosa, dak,,,etc......yeah, we will continue to get our ass kicked every sunday til who knows when....

    @browns52 said:

    how dem analytics goin these days....pfffffft...oh yeah, lets not draft elliot, bosa, dak,,,etc......yeah, we will continue to get our ass kicked every sunday til who knows when....

    Please bump threads where you were pining for Dak Prescott pre draft. I'll wait.

  • We need to hope that Erving can be a serviceable OT now. Does it completely suck that yet another first round pick isn't working out? Yes, yes it does. But a team always needs OL depth, so maybe he can provide that. *sigh*

    @jiggins7919 said:

    We need to hope that Erving can be a serviceable OT now.

    Pasztor has been a top-10 tackle and the #1 RT in the NFL after week 4 this year. We don't need Erving for anything other than depth.

    And the point of cutting him is that you don't keep a 1st round pick on your roster unless he's starting.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    We need to hope that Erving can be a serviceable OT now.

    Pasztor has been a top-10 tackle and the #1 RT in the NFL after week 4 this year. We don't need Erving for anything other than depth.

    And the point of cutting him is that you don't keep a 1st round pick on your roster unless he's starting.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Pasztor has been a top-10 tackle and the #1 RT in the NFL after week 4 this year. We don't need Erving for anything other than depth.

    And the point of cutting him is that you don't keep a 1st round pick on your roster unless he's starting.

    Draft status should have precisely shit all to do with whether you stay on the roster. It's not like he's a first round QB that the fans are going to scream for after every incompletion. If he's better than the next guy, he stays. If not, he guys. The round he was drafted in two years ago has no bearing on his ability today.

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Pasztor has been a top-10 tackle and the #1 RT in the NFL after week 4 this year. We don't need Erving for anything other than depth.

    And the point of cutting him is that you don't keep a 1st round pick on your roster unless he's starting.

    Draft status should have precisely shit all to do with whether you stay on the roster. It's not like he's a first round QB that the fans are going to scream for after every incompletion. If he's better than the next guy, he stays. If not, he guys. The round he was drafted in two years ago has no bearing on his ability today.

    @gftchris said:

    If he's better than the next guy, he stays. If not, he goes

    Agreed.. I don't think he beats out Coleman or Drango or Reiter for the backup OL spots, because I think we can take as a given that Thomas/Paz/Bito/Greco have their spots. Paz needs to be resigned, but that won't be hard.

  • We need to hope that Erving can be a serviceable OT now. Does it completely suck that yet another first round pick isn't working out? Yes, yes it does. But a team always needs OL depth, so maybe he can provide that. *sigh*

    @jiggins7919 said:

    We need to hope that Erving can be a serviceable OT now. Does it completely suck that yet another first round pick isn't working out? Yes, yes it does. But a team always needs OL depth, so maybe he can provide that. *sigh*

    We've already tried the Turnstile @ guard, and he's sucked there too. Pretty hard to bust on a center in the first round,but Erving is about the worst I've ever seen.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    We need to hope that Erving can be a serviceable OT now. Does it completely suck that yet another first round pick isn't working out? Yes, yes it does. But a team always needs OL depth, so maybe he can provide that. *sigh*

    We've already tried the Turnstile @ guard, and he's sucked there too. Pretty hard to bust on a center in the first round,but Erving is about the worst I've ever seen.

    @hoorta said:

    We've already tried the Turnstile @ guard, and he's sucked there too. Pretty hard to bust on a center in the first round,but Erving is about the worst I've ever seen.

    I know, man...I know. I'm just trying to find SOMETHING positive here, and the guy DOES have the correct frame for tackle. I set the bar pretty low when I said he could be a backup tackle...hopefully it works out. You hate to have ANOTHER first rounder that delivers absolutely nothing. It's basically unheard of. That being said, Shelton has shown signs of life this year, and maybe he can build on that. At least BOTH aren't looking like complete busts....

    *sigh*

  • @hoorta said:

    We've already tried the Turnstile @ guard, and he's sucked there too. Pretty hard to bust on a center in the first round,but Erving is about the worst I've ever seen.

    I know, man...I know. I'm just trying to find SOMETHING positive here, and the guy DOES have the correct frame for tackle. I set the bar pretty low when I said he could be a backup tackle...hopefully it works out. You hate to have ANOTHER first rounder that delivers absolutely nothing. It's basically unheard of. That being said, Shelton has shown signs of life this year, and maybe he can build on that. At least BOTH aren't looking like complete busts....

    *sigh*

    @jiggins7919 said:

    You hate to have ANOTHER first rounder that delivers absolutely nothing.

    Past is past. I haven't seen any tape of Coleman, but I have to believe he's still recovering from the torn MCL he suffered in a game one year ago today. [and they thought it was just a sprain, so he played more with it, exacerbating it and extending the recovery timeline..]

    I'll keep Coleman as T backup, Drango as G backup, and Reiter as C/G backup all over Turnstile.

  • Slide protect? Slide to the unoccupied gap so the dl has a clr unimpeded path to the qb? Lol. Maybe im not seeing everything in this picture but dont u usually slide somewhere if the defense is loading up one side with more guys than u have blockers? Im only seeing a 4 man rush with everyone else miles downfield. I mean thetes no one even close. And drango just doesnt look like he's interested in following the guy that beat him. Maybe he thought an inside screen was called and he was supposedto release his man upfield?

    Coleman got some time a couple games ago. I saw one blown assignment... AKA a great series for Cam...

    @clevfan4life said:

    Slide protect? Slide to the unoccupied gap so the dl has a clr unimpeded path to the qb? Lol. Maybe im not seeing everything in this picture but dont u usually slide somewhere if the defense is loading up one side with more guys than u have blockers? Im only seeing a 4 man rush with everyone else miles downfield. I mean thetes no one even close. And drango just doesnt look like he's interested in following the guy that beat him. Maybe he thought an inside screen was called and he was supposedto release his man upfield?


    There was an added LB and DB on the right pre-snap. The LB bailed at the snap the DB threatened the right side actually taking a step towards the line before sprinting to the right flat. As I wrote elsewhere at least Cam did not chase him...

    @wargograw said:

    Please bump threads where you were pining for Dak Prescott pre draft. I'll wait.

    ** Tour raises and waves his hand ** "Oooh... ask me... ask me..."

    Even my last, untested darkhorse appeared this week... and didn't shit the bed.

    Now if Goff would just come through... not that I mind nailing darkhorses, but it's be nice to notch a first rounder, let alone a #1 overall...

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I know, man...I know. I'm just trying to find SOMETHING positive here, and the guy DOES have the correct frame for tackle.

    I feel your pain, but trust me... you can stop digging... there's no pony under this particular pile of shit.