So if horton doesnt work out....
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Get fickell out of OSU? I like his defense. Moreso the kind of players he likes to get for his 4-3. Plus, and this is me homering full disclosure.....having him here could entice other osu players both current and past...to sign here or be amicable to getting drafted by us.
Im trying to think like who's out there now that is maybe on their rookie contract that might be cool signing here in a few years if we get fickell. I cant think of anybody offhand, can somebody help me out here??
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If we have a DC that's good enough to hang around 4 years, he won't be hanging around 4 years.
Also, you seriously need to let the Bosa stuff go. At this point you're just flogging a mess of broken bones and mush.
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Fickell's schemes compared to what is run at the average NFL level alone is night and day difference.
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let's not mess up what OSU has going on, we need at least some good football on weekends
If Horton doesn't work out, I wouldn't mind seeing Pettine brought in as DC. His defense wasn't terrible the first year, before O'Neil came in. Either that or promote one of the defensive coaches already on staff to keep some semblance of stability.
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If we have a DC that's good enough to hang around 4 years, he won't be hanging around 4 years.
Also, you seriously need to let the Bosa stuff go. At this point you're just flogging a mess of broken bones and mush.
If we have a DC that's good enough to hang around 4 years, he won't be hanging around 4 years.
Also, you seriously need to let the Bosa stuff go. At this point you're just flogging a mess of broken bones and mush.
Bosa? Who's that again? Oh wait thats one of those excercise balls rigjt?
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Fickell's schemes compared to what is run at the average NFL level alone is night and day difference.
Fickell's schemes compared to what to is run at the average NFL level alone is night and day difference.
I like what he does with some of his ends though. I def see more firezoning from his DE's than any 4-3 ive personally seen run. And how the secondary plays off that. Nassibs already shown he cannoperate well in space, i dont think he's bit one time on the screens this year. He's recognized the rb getting out in the flat everytime they've tried it on him and thats when he's gotten the bat downs.
I think nassib would be great in a fickell defense
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Interesting point about former Bucks being willing to sign with us. That could help bring a lot more fans home. Other than that, don't really care. I'd rather not fire Horton.
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Interesting point about former Bucks being willing to sign with us. That could help bring a lot more fans home. Other than that, don't really care. I'd rather not fire Horton.
Interesting point about former Bucks being willing to sign with us. That could help bring a lot more fans home. Other than that, don't really care. I'd rather not fire Horton.
Nor would I want to fire Horton. However, of the offense is doing alright next year and the defense is still losing games for us, than the next year that's it. If I don't see Nassib and og developed next year than the entire defensive staff might have to go cause they are then proven to not be developing these guys. Look everybody knows why og and nas didn't go first round, so they have a year to catch up. Seeing where some of these 1st rounders are is it unreasonable to expect og and nas to have 6 or so sacks next year?
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Interesting point about former Bucks being willing to sign with us. That could help bring a lot more fans home. Other than that, don't really care. I'd rather not fire Horton.
Interesting point about former Bucks being willing to sign with us. That could help bring a lot more fans home. Other than that, don't really care. I'd rather not fire Horton.
agreed,,lets see what he can do with some more play makers on his side of the ball cause god knows we have the picks to bolster the D
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With rumors of Jimbo Fisher jumping to LSU that opens up their DC to new employment... Dave Aranda.
He sure looks the part.
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"IF" he doesn't work out??
We're 0-10 and giving up 30+ points a game.
NEWSFLASH...he's not working out, time get rid of him.
I still don't know how he got a DC job in Cleveland for the 2nd time, when he sucked on his first stint.
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With rumors of Jimbo Fisher jumping to LSU that opens up their DC to new employment... Dave Aranda.
He sure looks the part.
With rumors of Jimbo Fisher jumping to LSU that opens up their DC to new employment... Dave Aranda.
He sure looks the part.
Their coach is already fired. What's Fisher got to do with anything?
Aranda is excellent. Runs a 3-4 too. But they'll probably keep him.
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With rumors of Jimbo Fisher jumping to LSU that opens up their DC to new employment... Dave Aranda.
He sure looks the part.
With rumors of Jimbo Fisher jumping to LSU that opens up their DC to new employment... Dave Aranda.
He sure looks the part.
Why would a guy move from FSU to LSU. FSU, at least since the 70s, has had the superior program...and their recruiting bases are equal if FSU is not better, and certainly FSU match LSU in money? No?
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With rumors of Jimbo Fisher jumping to LSU that opens up their DC to new employment... Dave Aranda.
He sure looks the part.
Why would a guy move from FSU to LSU. FSU, at least since the 70s, has had the superior program...and their recruiting bases are equal if FSU is not better, and certainly FSU match LSU in money? No?
Why would a guy move from FSU to LSU. FSU, at least since the 70s, has had the superior program...and their recruiting bases are equal if FSU is not better, and certainly FSU match LSU in money? No?
Because the SEC is a step above the ACC and Fisher has a history with LSU.
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Why would a guy move from FSU to LSU. FSU, at least since the 70s, has had the superior program...and their recruiting bases are equal if FSU is not better, and certainly FSU match LSU in money? No?
Because the SEC is a step above the ACC and Fisher has a history with LSU.
Because the SEC is a step above the ACC and Fisher has a history with LSU.
The ACC has had a better record vs. the SEC head to head like the last 3 years. So that premise may be faulty. As for history....well, if that his "home" so be it. That is why OSU has Meyer.
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Their coach is already fired. What's Fisher got to do with anything?
Aranda is excellent. Runs a 3-4 too. But they'll probably keep him.
Because an interim HC is stuck with a staff and the long-term replacement tends to bring in his own people? Not every time, e.g. Urban keeping Fickel, but much more often than not.
Fisher is widely rumored to be on LSU's short list. It's been in all the papers...
Why would a guy move from FSU to LSU. FSU, at least since the 70s, has had the superior program...and their recruiting bases are equal if FSU is not better, and certainly FSU match LSU in money? No?
Besides just to confuse me? Logic mentioned 2 reasons...
Florida is more fertile recruiting territory, but LSU goes there... and also reaches into Texas. It's more a consideration of the stage/launching pad to the National Championship and the SEC has it over the ACC on that count.
The downside? BAMA... But Jimbo was at LSU as OC/QB Coach when Saban was HC there. So he knows Saban and likely would not only relish the chance to beat his old HC, but know how to do it.
LSU has spent years looking for a QB... ever since JaMarcus left. If they'd had one, then they'd have challenged for the title more than once during that period. Look what they did with Mettenberger. Les never got a blue chipper to come to LSU. Jimbo won't have that problem.
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Their coach is already fired. What's Fisher got to do with anything?
Aranda is excellent. Runs a 3-4 too. But they'll probably keep him.
Because an interim HC is stuck with a staff and the long-term replacement tends to bring in his own people? Not every time, e.g. Urban keeping Fickel, but much more often than not.
Fisher is widely rumored to be on LSU's short list. It's been in all the papers...
Why would a guy move from FSU to LSU. FSU, at least since the 70s, has had the superior program...and their recruiting bases are equal if FSU is not better, and certainly FSU match LSU in money? No?
Besides just to confuse me? Logic mentioned 2 reasons...
Florida is more fertile recruiting territory, but LSU goes there... and also reaches into Texas. It's more a consideration of the stage/launching pad to the National Championship and the SEC has it over the ACC on that count.
The downside? BAMA... But Jimbo was at LSU as OC/QB Coach when Saban was HC there. So he knows Saban and likely would not only relish the chance to beat his old HC, but know how to do it.
LSU has spent years looking for a QB... ever since JaMarcus left. If they'd had one, then they'd have challenged for the title more than once during that period. Look what they did with Mettenberger. Les never got a blue chipper to come to LSU. Jimbo won't have that problem.
Because an interim HC is stuck with a staff and the long-term replacement tends to bring in his own people? Not every time, e.g. Urban keeping Fickel, but much more often than not.
Fisher is widely rumored to be on LSU's short list. It's been in all the papers...
Besides just to confuse me? Logic mentioned 2 reasons...
Florida is more fertile recruiting territory, but LSU goes there... and also reaches into Texas. It's more a consideration of the stage/launching pad to the National Championship and the SEC has it over the ACC on that count.
I am not so certain of that...and fyi, the CFP committee has repeatedly said that it does NOT look at conferences, it looks at schools.
If FSU were good enough to win the ACC...go undefeated or have one loss, they WILL get into the College Football Playoffs.
ACC Clemson had their chance last year.
And, in fact, it may even be easier in the ACC at this point. Why? BEcause of what you state here:
The downside? BAMA... But Jimbo was at LSU as OC/QB Coach when Saban was HC there. So he knows Saban and likely would not only relish the chance to beat his old HC, but know how to do it.
He needs to be in a conference he has a chance of winning. He may not have great chances going up vs. Bama in the same division.
In my mind....better to meet them in the national title game than to meet them in a regular season SECW game.
LSU has spent years looking for a QB... ever since JaMarcus left. If they'd had one, then they'd have challenged for the title more than once during that period. Look what they did with Mettenberger. Les never got a blue chipper to come to LSU. Jimbo won't have that problem.
Why not? What does he got that Miles or others ain't got?
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Well, i for one would welcome fickell. Or anyone that runs a 4-3 really.
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Here is the thing, the Titans don't have a great defense, they don't have any real stars that come to mind, but he was doing a fine job there. He wasn't shocking the world, but he set up a solid NFL defense in the few years he worked as a DC there. With the Browns he got 1 year, and now with the Browns again, basically with an entirely new cast of players other than Haden, people are saying he should only have 1 year. From what I gathered he runs one of the most complicated defenses in the league and he has about 7 starters with 1 year or less of full time starting experience starting on that defense. I mean look at this.
0 Full seasons of starting experience:
Nassib DE
Ogbag DE/OLB
Meder DE (past rotational player)
Taylor CB (like 9 full starts before season)
Kirksey MLB (Two years of rotational experience)
Cambell SS (Rotaional/Special Teams Experience)
Howard FS
Those are starters on are defense. Some of them have shown good potential. Kirksey has been playing damn well, along with Shelton who only has one full season or starting experience. I'd love to see the defense do better, but I'm not surprised and I'd prefer to see what the defense looks like last year.
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