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  • ameer A
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    A ameer wrote on last edited by ameer
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    Resign players

    Terrell pryor

    Jamar taylor

    Jamie collins

    Jamie meder

    Isiah crowell

    Corey lemioner

    Freeagency duron harmon ss(patriots)

    2017 2 round draft

    Round 1

    Myles Garrett

    Round 1 sidney jones

    Round 2 jarrad davis

    Round 2 justin evans

    Only doing 2 rounds because most likely these would be startters and im also expecting compensatory picks added.

    Starting lineup

    Justin evans fs

    Duron harmon ss

    Sidney jones cb

    Joe haden cb

    Jarrad davis lolb

    Christian kirksey mlb

    Jamie collins rolb

    De emanuel ogbah

    Nt danny shelton

    Dt desmond bryant

    De myles Garrett

    Lt joe thomas

    Lg joe bitino

    C austin rieter

    Rg john greco

    Rt shon Coleman

    Qb Robert griffin

    Rb isiah crowell

    Wrterrell pryor

    Wrandrew hawkins

    Wr corey Coleman

    Te gary barnige

    Release tramon Williams josh mccown

    Swith to 43 defense what u think ?

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      1) You forgot to include re-signing Pazstor. He'll be relatively cheap and very talented.

      2) Greco is done. Cut him also.

      3) Not sure why you're resigning these guys - lemonier and taylor should be cut as well.

      4) Meder is DT beside Shelton - Bryant is a DE, not a DT.

      5) Nassib isn't a starter at present. Start Bryant.

      6) I find it hard to believe you'd pry Harmon away from Belichick.

      7) RG3 is not the quarterback of the present, let alone the future.

      😎 Reiter isn't the worst C, but i wouldn't start him.

      The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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        B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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        Collins is going to cost major loot. Pryor is decent but not sure if he is a clear #1. Draft some duds, sign some irrelevant FAs.

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          I would love to pick up more offensive skill firepower.....but, as noted many times....what are they gonna do when they can't even breathe because the opposing defense is all over them in the blink of an eye because of piss poor line play?

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            L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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            IMO there's no way Collins is going to sign here. We'll get our pick back so it's no big deal and fair play to the FO for trying but it's not going to happen.

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              IMO there's no way Collins is going to sign here. We'll get our pick back so it's no big deal and fair play to the FO for trying but it's not going to happen.

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              LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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              @londonbrown said:

              IMO there's no way Collins is going to sign here. We'll get our pick back so it's no big deal and fair play to the FO for trying but it's not going to happen.

              They will tag him for sure if he doesn't play ball on signing.

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                hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                Question will be if the Browns consider Trubiski (or someone else) a true franchise qb. That trumps everything else- even drafting Garrett. Guys like Suh and Clowney aren't going to get their teams to the SB by themselves.

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                  W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                  Guys like Von and Demarcus did though.

                  Justin Evans is hard hitter, probably hardest I've ever seen, but not a very sure tackler.

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                    Question will be if the Browns consider Trubiski (or someone else) a true franchise qb. That trumps everything else- even drafting Garrett. Guys like Suh and Clowney aren't going to get their teams to the SB by themselves.

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                    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                    @hoorta said:

                    Question will be if the Browns consider Trubiski (or someone else) a true franchise qb.

                    And there it is in a nutshell. I just do not trust this FO to know the difference. And is Trubiski REALLY a franchise QB? Or are we just ignoring the running car and hiding behind the chainsaws because we are the Browns. It's what we do. We've been stuck in that horror movie since 1999, hence the t-shirt with all those "franchise" QBs. Just add another. WTF!! For once lets just be George Costanza and take the running car.

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                      @hoorta said:

                      Question will be if the Browns consider Trubiski (or someone else) a true franchise qb.

                      And there it is in a nutshell. I just do not trust this FO to know the difference. And is Trubiski REALLY a franchise QB? Or are we just ignoring the running car and hiding behind the chainsaws because we are the Browns. It's what we do. We've been stuck in that horror movie since 1999, hence the t-shirt with all those "franchise" QBs. Just add another. WTF!! For once lets just be George Costanza and take the running car.

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                      jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                      @texasag1969 said:

                      And there it is in a nutshell. I just do not trust this FO to know the difference. And is Trubiski REALLY a franchise QB? Or are we just ignoring the running car and hiding behind the chainsaws because we are the Browns. It's what we do. We've been stuck in that horror movie since 1999, hence the t-shirt with all those "franchise" QBs. Just add another. WTF!! For once lets just be George Costanza and take the running car.

                      Not sure if Mitch is a "franchise QB" or not, but I know he at least has all of the requisite physical tools, so he'd be starting from a good base. I don't necessarily LOVE the offense he plays in (appears to be kind of a shotgun based spread attack), but the guy can throw, and he can even run a little. He makes VERY good decisions, and with some grooming, would at least have a CHANCE at being a talented starter. The bigger question for OUR team is...can we justify taking him NUMBER DAMN ONE, and miss out on taking a Garrett or Allen? That's what is so tough. You need a young, talented QB, but there AREN'T any "home runs". So what do you do when you NEED something that isn't THERE?

                      We shall see.

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                        Question will be if the Browns consider Trubiski (or someone else) a true franchise qb. That trumps everything else- even drafting Garrett. Guys like Suh and Clowney aren't going to get their teams to the SB by themselves.

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @hoorta said:

                        Question will be if the Browns consider Trubiski (or someone else) a true franchise qb. That trumps everything else- even drafting Garrett. Guys like Suh and Clowney aren't going to get their teams to the SB by themselves.

                        How about this: The Eagles lose all the rest of their games, and they give us another Top 5 pick. That way we can grab Trubisky #1, then take What is there from Allen, Garrett, Peppers, Marlon Humphrey.

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                          @hoorta said:

                          Question will be if the Browns consider Trubiski (or someone else) a true franchise qb.

                          And there it is in a nutshell. I just do not trust this FO to know the difference. And is Trubiski REALLY a franchise QB? Or are we just ignoring the running car and hiding behind the chainsaws because we are the Browns. It's what we do. We've been stuck in that horror movie since 1999, hence the t-shirt with all those "franchise" QBs. Just add another. WTF!! For once lets just be George Costanza and take the running car.

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @texasag1969 said:

                          And there it is in a nutshell. I just do not trust this FO to know the difference. And is Trubiski REALLY a franchise QB? Or are we just ignoring the running car and hiding behind the chainsaws because we are the Browns. It's what we do. We've been stuck in that horror movie since 1999, hence the t-shirt with all those "franchise" QBs. Just add another. WTF!! For once lets just be George Costanza and take the running car.

                          There are some obscure references in there that I don't follow.

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                            @hoorta said:

                            Question will be if the Browns consider Trubiski (or someone else) a true franchise qb. That trumps everything else- even drafting Garrett. Guys like Suh and Clowney aren't going to get their teams to the SB by themselves.

                            How about this: The Eagles lose all the rest of their games, and they give us another Top 5 pick. That way we can grab Trubisky #1, then take What is there from Allen, Garrett, Peppers, Marlon Humphrey.

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                            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                            @the-gipper said:

                            How about this: The Eagles lose all the rest of their games, and they give us another Top 5 pick. That way we can grab Trubisky #1, then take What is there from Allen, Garrett, Peppers, Marlon Humphrey.

                            That would be optimal but I don't know if that will happen.

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                              @texasag1969 said:

                              And there it is in a nutshell. I just do not trust this FO to know the difference. And is Trubiski REALLY a franchise QB? Or are we just ignoring the running car and hiding behind the chainsaws because we are the Browns. It's what we do. We've been stuck in that horror movie since 1999, hence the t-shirt with all those "franchise" QBs. Just add another. WTF!! For once lets just be George Costanza and take the running car.

                              Not sure if Mitch is a "franchise QB" or not, but I know he at least has all of the requisite physical tools, so he'd be starting from a good base. I don't necessarily LOVE the offense he plays in (appears to be kind of a shotgun based spread attack), but the guy can throw, and he can even run a little. He makes VERY good decisions, and with some grooming, would at least have a CHANCE at being a talented starter. The bigger question for OUR team is...can we justify taking him NUMBER DAMN ONE, and miss out on taking a Garrett or Allen? That's what is so tough. You need a young, talented QB, but there AREN'T any "home runs". So what do you do when you NEED something that isn't THERE?

                              We shall see.

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                              T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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                              @jiggins7919 said:

                              Not sure if Mitch is a "franchise QB" or not, but I know he at least has all of the requisite physical tools, so he'd be starting from a good base. I don't necessarily LOVE the offense he plays in (appears to be kind of a shotgun based spread attack), but the guy can throw, and he can even run a little. He makes VERY good decisions, and with some grooming, would at least have a CHANCE at being a talented starter. The bigger question for OUR team is...can we justify taking him NUMBER DAMN ONE, and miss out on taking a Garrett or Allen? That's what is so tough. You need a young, talented QB, but there AREN'T any "home runs". So what do you do when you NEED something that isn't THERE?

                              We shall see.

                              Pretty much my point. We can see the running car that the D needs (pass rusher) , but the fact is we are now looking at the unknown chainsaws for POSSIBLE help with the O. So take the damn car and trade up for the maybe QB. We have the ammunition to do so and can still get a quality C further down. But then again this FO is not trustworthy after the 4 maybe WR's, most of whom we went for too early. Just tell the truth. Weren't most of you just shaking your heads a bit wondering about some of those choices in terms of where they were made in comparison to where they were on the charts? Add the QB to that as well.

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                                Guys like Von and Demarcus did though.

                                Justin Evans is hard hitter, probably hardest I've ever seen, but not a very sure tackler.

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                                @wargograw said:

                                Guys like Von and Demarcus did though.

                                Justin Evans is hard hitter, probably hardest I've ever seen, but not a very sure tackler.

                                Don't worry the Browns will draft a project DE/OLB in the 3rd round.

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                                  The d is the one area that has showed improvement dispite being on the field the whole game don't touch a defensive player get rid of rg3 he's a cancer and fire trade cut every last lineman and draft new o lineman every problem the browns have starts there the browns should draft at least 5 new lineman in the draft before any other position

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                                    jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                                    The more I watch Von Miller every week, the more I think it's less about finding a QB, and more about finding a guy that can potentially change the game. Von is obviously a VERY rare talent, but if our front office feels like Myles Garrett can be that type of player, we take him.

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                                      The more I watch Von Miller every week, the more I think it's less about finding a QB, and more about finding a guy that can potentially change the game. Von is obviously a VERY rare talent, but if our front office feels like Myles Garrett can be that type of player, we take him.

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                                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                      @jiggins7919 said:

                                      The more I watch Von Miller every week, the more I think it's less about finding a QB, and more about finding a guy that can potentially change the game. Von is obviously a VERY rare talent, but if our front office feels like Myles Garrett can be that type of player, we take him.

                                      I agree. I don't think you can pass him for any QB in thios draft class.

                                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                        @wargograw said:

                                        Guys like Von and Demarcus did though.

                                        Justin Evans is hard hitter, probably hardest I've ever seen, but not a very sure tackler.

                                        Don't worry the Browns will draft a project DE/OLB in the 3rd round.

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                                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                        @baconhound said:

                                        Don't worry the Browns will draft a project DE/OLB in the 3rd round.

                                        Possibly.....and that may be the appropriate place to do so. With their 4 choices in rounds 1 and 2, they could take a QB, 1-2 OL, 1-2 DBs....and it would not bother me at all.

                                        To me, these are probably more critical positions of need.....even though, yes, we need that pass rusher.

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                                          @jiggins7919 said:

                                          Not sure if Mitch is a "franchise QB" or not, but I know he at least has all of the requisite physical tools, so he'd be starting from a good base. I don't necessarily LOVE the offense he plays in (appears to be kind of a shotgun based spread attack), but the guy can throw, and he can even run a little. He makes VERY good decisions, and with some grooming, would at least have a CHANCE at being a talented starter. The bigger question for OUR team is...can we justify taking him NUMBER DAMN ONE, and miss out on taking a Garrett or Allen? That's what is so tough. You need a young, talented QB, but there AREN'T any "home runs". So what do you do when you NEED something that isn't THERE?

                                          We shall see.

                                          Pretty much my point. We can see the running car that the D needs (pass rusher) , but the fact is we are now looking at the unknown chainsaws for POSSIBLE help with the O. So take the damn car and trade up for the maybe QB. We have the ammunition to do so and can still get a quality C further down. But then again this FO is not trustworthy after the 4 maybe WR's, most of whom we went for too early. Just tell the truth. Weren't most of you just shaking your heads a bit wondering about some of those choices in terms of where they were made in comparison to where they were on the charts? Add the QB to that as well.

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                                          @texasag1969 said:

                                          Pretty much my point. We can see the running car that the D needs (pass rusher) , but the fact is we are now looking at the unknown chainsaws for POSSIBLE help with the O. So take the damn car and trade up for the maybe QB. We have the ammunition to do so and can still get a quality C further down. But then again this FO is not trustworthy after the 4 maybe WR's, most of whom we went for too early. Just tell the truth. Weren't most of you just shaking your heads a bit wondering about some of those choices in terms of where they were made in comparison to where they were on the charts? Add the QB to that as well.

                                          I saw one mock having us take Kayaa in the second.

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