***Official Browns Vs. New York Giants Game Day Thread***
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Im with ya on Hogan!! IMO better than Kessler with speed and size! 1216
Im with ya on Hogan!! IMO better than Kessler with speed and size! 1216
Size and speed are secondary traits that a QB needs. You're missing out on the important things that Hogan lacks.
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The Browns offense finally finds the end zone! nice pass protection. Still would like to see Hogan over McCown though, at this point McCown would have to lead 3 more scoring drives this game to change my mind.
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The Browns offense finally finds the end zone! nice pass protection. Still would like to see Hogan over McCown though, at this point McCown would have to lead 3 more scoring drives this game to change my mind.
The Browns offense finally finds the end zone! nice pass protection. Still would like to see Hogan over McCown though, at this point McCown would have to lead 3 more scoring drives this game to change my mind.
Hogan stinks
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The Browns offense finally finds the end zone! nice pass protection. Still would like to see Hogan over McCown though, at this point McCown would have to lead 3 more scoring drives this game to change my mind.
Hogan stinks
Hogan stinks
True, with Hogan in we will most likely lose. With McCown in, we will most likely lose. One of these QBs has the potential to develop, and the other is 37 years old. Pick your poison, neither QB gives us a decent chance to win but I would like to see what we have on the bench.
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LOL Kirksey covering Beckham.
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That is why he is covering the browns game
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Hogan stinks
True, with Hogan in we will most likely lose. With McCown in, we will most likely lose. One of these QBs has the potential to develop, and the other is 37 years old. Pick your poison, neither QB gives us a decent chance to win but I would like to see what we have on the bench.
True, with Hogan in we will most likely lose. With McCown in, we will most likely lose. One of these QBs has the potential to develop, and the other is 37 years old. Pick your poison, neither QB gives us a decent chance to win but I would like to see what we have on the bench.
In the NFL if you are banking on evaluating who can possibly be your future backup or 3rd string QB you don't deserve to play on Sunday
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McCown just had to lose another fumble, why not.
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when you are a winless team, have more fans from the visiting team than the home team in your stadium and have been losing games by 10+ points every week and consistently give up in the 4th quarter you don't deserve to play on Sunday.
If the games were at least close it wouldn't be so bad, the last few games have been very depressing. I get it, we're in a rebuild year but every year is a rebuild year with this team. this team is going nowhere, there has been zero improvement week to week. Offense has been ineffective, defense gets gassed because they're on the field way too much. I honestly do not think things will get worse with Hogan at this point or even RGlass3. McCown is obviously playing hurt, he gets smacked around nearly every play and he always falls apart by the second half. Do you honestly think this team is going anywhere with McCown?
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SF loses on the 2 yd line 31-24
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when you are a winless team, have more fans from the visiting team than the home team in your stadium and have been losing games by 10+ points every week and consistently give up in the 4th quarter you don't deserve to play on Sunday.
If the games were at least close it wouldn't be so bad, the last few games have been very depressing. I get it, we're in a rebuild year but every year is a rebuild year with this team. this team is going nowhere, there has been zero improvement week to week. Offense has been ineffective, defense gets gassed because they're on the field way too much. I honestly do not think things will get worse with Hogan at this point or even RGlass3. McCown is obviously playing hurt, he gets smacked around nearly every play and he always falls apart by the second half. Do you honestly think this team is going anywhere with McCown?
when you are a winless team, have more fans from the visiting team than the home team in your stadium and have been losing games by 10+ points every week and consistently give up in the 4th quarter you don't deserve to play on Sunday.
If the games were at least close it wouldn't be so bad, the last few games have been very depressing. I get it, we're in a rebuild year but every year is a rebuild year with this team. this team is going nowhere, there has been zero improvement week to week. Offense has been ineffective, defense gets gassed because they're on the field way too much. I honestly do not think things will get worse with Hogan at this point or even RGlass3. McCown is obviously playing hurt, he gets smacked around nearly every play and he always falls apart by the second half. Do you honestly think this team is going anywhere with McCown?
Not at all but Hogan maybe one of the worst passers I've ever seen put an NFL jersey on and he has zero command of the offense. I don't know how much of the game you watched but Pryor was getting visibly pissed on the sidelines and this is a guy who could've been out of the league this year, imagine how Collins, Kirksey & Thomas feel. Next week you want to throw a watered down, less talented, Johnny Manziel in there? This is a guy lower than Charlie Whitehorse in the eyes of the guys evaluating him.
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Am traveling but caught the game at 20-13. I see obj being guarded by a backer to score a wide open TD.
But please, tell me how horton doesnt bear responsibility for schemes again.
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Am traveling but caught the game at 20-13. I see obj being guarded by a backer to score a wide open TD.
But please, tell me how horton doesnt bear responsibility for schemes again.
Am traveling but caught the game at 20-13. I see obj being guarded by a backer to score a wide open TD.
But please, tell me how horton doesnt bear responsibility for schemes again.
No one is saying Horton is completely blameless, I think the point is the lack of talent is the real issue. If we were evaluating coaches based on scheme and results Hue Jackson would be cleaning out his office as we speak, he is consistently bad.
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Come Mman they did show up!
Come Mman they did show up!
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At all costs, Josh"The Clown"must be benched.
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Am traveling but caught the game at 20-13. I see obj being guarded by a backer to score a wide open TD.
But please, tell me how horton doesnt bear responsibility for schemes again.
No one is saying Horton is completely blameless, I think the point is the lack of talent is the real issue. If we were evaluating coaches based on scheme and results Hue Jackson would be cleaning out his office as we speak, he is consistently bad.
No one is saying Horton is completely blameless, I think the point is the lack of talent is the real issue. If we were evaluating coaches based on scheme and results Hue Jackson would be cleaning out his office as we speak, he is consistently bad.
ALOT of people on this board are saying that. All ive said all along is that its not mutually exclusive. The talent and coordinator can suck, and horton has a record to show he does.
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No one is saying Horton is completely blameless, I think the point is the lack of talent is the real issue. If we were evaluating coaches based on scheme and results Hue Jackson would be cleaning out his office as we speak, he is consistently bad.
ALOT of people on this board are saying that. All ive said all along is that its not mutually exclusive. The talent and coordinator can suck, and horton has a record to show he does.
ALOT of people on this board are saying that. All ive said all along is that its not mutually exclusive. The talent and coordinator can suck, and horton has a record to show he does.
Then clean house again and get another inexperienced, unproven coach because no one on this staff is worth anything, hence they are in Cleveland. Over the past 3 hires we keep being told, "this is the guy we want", when the reality is, "all the good candidates are gone and this guy said yes". If you were a top notch defensive coordinator or head coach would you pick Cleveland?
This is the current head coach telling us how proud he is of this team and how outstanding they are. Jim Jones wasn't this delusional
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Millen your an idiot!
I always love seeing this.
Then clean house again and get another inexperienced, unproven coach because no one on this staff is worth anything, hence they are in Cleveland. Over the past 3 hires we keep being told, "this is the guy we want", when the reality is, "all the good candidates are gone and this guy said yes". If you were a top notch defensive coordinator or head coach would you pick Cleveland?
This is the current head coach telling us how proud he is of this team and how outstanding they are. Jim Jones wasn't this delusional
Would you prefer him telling his own players they suck ass on a daily basis? That's sure to help. You can be proud of a young, talentless team in a losing effort.
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Millen your an idiot!
I always love seeing this.
Then clean house again and get another inexperienced, unproven coach because no one on this staff is worth anything, hence they are in Cleveland. Over the past 3 hires we keep being told, "this is the guy we want", when the reality is, "all the good candidates are gone and this guy said yes". If you were a top notch defensive coordinator or head coach would you pick Cleveland?
This is the current head coach telling us how proud he is of this team and how outstanding they are. Jim Jones wasn't this delusional
Would you prefer him telling his own players they suck ass on a daily basis? That's sure to help. You can be proud of a young, talentless team in a losing effort.
I always love seeing this.
Would you prefer him telling his own players they suck ass on a daily basis? That's sure to help. You can be proud of a young, talentless team in a losing effort.
It doesn't have to be either or. You can be supportive and still be honest. You can praise individual players for good play such as Kirksey or Shelton but you can also speak in general terms about the fact that effort & work while admirable aren't enough to win NFL games. I'd go with the majority of successful football coaches were hard asses and not sunshine pumpers but it can't be out of the realm of possible to be both. College is a different game but Bob Stoops is an example of what I'd like to see.
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maybe someday it won't feel like child abuse every time i dress my kid in Browns gear. McCown, Hogan, Kessler, I don't even care at this point. Just would like the Browns to stop embarrassing themselves every week.
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