Why do people on the right still get worked up over castro?
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Im not surprised cubans in miami hated castro.
Im not surprised cubans in miami hated castro.
Not Miami. But I guess you know more than someone who had to live under Castro's watch?
Not everyone who wanted to get out was some evil Bautista fan.
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I am trying to understand your love of Castro and Che.
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Fan of theft and murder?
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I am trying to understand your love of Castro and Che.
I am trying to understand your love of Castro and Che.
Not love, understanding. Ive taken tje time to learn for myself what was going on in cuba, and south america as a whole, during those decades. During our revolution the british press treated the revolutionaries almost identically. The liberal press hailed them as new world heroes and the conservative press mocked them for on one hand demanding liberty yet were the biggest slave drivers in the known world.
And to be clear, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that the colonies were subjected to by the british remotely compared to the corruption of the batista regime and its affiliation and almost subservience to the american mafia. All of u right wing gun owners here would foam at the mouth if our govt, at the behest of foreign entities....was up to the same business. And you would do no less than many of the south american revolutionaries that you chirp at from your current coddled nest of western comfort.
This doesnt mean that i agree with absolutely everything che and castro did, but i have enough knowledge of history and analytical depth to understand this is the history of man on this planet. When one group of people overcome oppression they often become the oppressors themselves.
What kills me is how the events surrounding the siege of canaan and their subsequent enslavement is the genesis of 3 distinct yet equally false religions. This event is considered ordained by a made up god so its fine. But others can do exactly the same and often for vastly more noble and valid reasons, yet they are labeled as murderous thiefs and tyrants.
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let's go with this-
Cleve can use his dreamland excuses for Charles Manson, any serial kiler,
the list is long.
pretty messed up for a "look at me I'm special Cleve" take.
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We hated Castro. We were fine with Pinochet, the Shah, Sadaam Hussein (at least until he went rogue,
then---not so much).
The U.S. seems to have selective outrage when it comes to murderous dictators.
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We hated Castro. We were fine with Pinochet, the Shah, Sadaam Hussein (at least until he went rogue,
then---not so much).
The U.S. seems to have selective outrage when it comes to murderous dictators.
We hated Castro. We were fine with Pinochet, the Shah, Sadaam Hussein (at least until he went rogue,
then---not so much).
The U.S. seems to have selective outrage when it comes to murderous dictators.
I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that Castro was allowing the Soviet Union to place missile silos 90 miles from the United States?
We also hated Hitler and Tojo but didn't seem to mind Stalin.
Somebody mentioned the American Revolution but that was just a case of the 1% here deciding they shouldn't have to send tax money to King George.
WSS
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So the soviets were being unreasonable when they objected to our surrounding them essentially with missile bases in eastern euro countries, but as soon as that was turned on us it was blockade time which damn near kicked off ww3
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Cruz ackn on tv yesterday that his own father got his shit pushed in by batistas men in prison. The reason the rev happened in the first place.
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So the soviets were being unreasonable when they objected to our surrounding them essentially with missile bases in eastern euro countries, but as soon as that was turned on us it was blockade time which damn near kicked off ww3
So the soviets were being unreasonable when they objected to our surrounding them essentially with missile bases in eastern euro countries, but as soon as that was turned on us it was blockade time which damn near kicked off ww3
If Cuba had been in the Baltic Sea, the Soviets would have created a blockade. Geography and circumstances favored the U.S.
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We hated Castro. We were fine with Pinochet, the Shah, Sadaam Hussein (at least until he went rogue,
then---not so much).
The U.S. seems to have selective outrage when it comes to murderous dictators.
I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that Castro was allowing the Soviet Union to place missile silos 90 miles from the United States?
We also hated Hitler and Tojo but didn't seem to mind Stalin.
Somebody mentioned the American Revolution but that was just a case of the 1% here deciding they shouldn't have to send tax money to King George.
WSS
I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that Castro was allowing the Soviet Union to place missile silos 90 miles from the United States?
We also hated Hitler and Tojo but didn't seem to mind Stalin.
Somebody mentioned the American Revolution but that was just a case of the 1% here deciding they shouldn't have to send tax money to King George.
WSS
I'm sure you and a few others on here remember the weekly air raid drills we had in the 60's preparing for a nuclear war with Russia via Cuba. Not to mention quite a few think Castro was behind the assassination of JFK.
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Cruz ackn on tv yesterday that his own father got his shit pushed in by batistas men in prison. The reason the rev happened in the first place.
It is possible that both Batista and Castro were scumbags. This isn't an either/or proposition where one is swell and the other sucks.
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And now castro killed kennedy. U boobs beleive anything ur spoonfed
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And now castro killed kennedy. U boobs beleive anything ur spoonfed
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Gotta love the way this thread is rolling along Cleve.
And the best part is you aren't even trying to be the devil's advocate.
Next up:
Cleve speaks!
Reasons that Saddam Hussein Osama bin Laden Pol Pot and Pinochet were heroes persecuted by the evil US.
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Cleve, what are you getting at here? That Fidel Castro - Fidel Castro! - was massively misunderstood, and was a peaceful soul just looking to do the best for his country, by imprisoning and impoverishing the masses and lining his own pocket while ruling with an iron fist inside an iron gauntlet?
I'm sure those americans that are old wise enough to remember being affected by the missile crisis have an even worse view of him, because he was so anti-american in general, but even over here he was viewed as a ruthless dictator who the world would be better without.
Maybe in the beginning he was truly a freedom fighter, looking to topple a corrupt government, but surely by the end he was himself the corrupt authority he was trying to depose.
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Cleve, what are you getting at here? That Fidel Castro - Fidel Castro! - was massively misunderstood, and was a peaceful soul just looking to do the best for his country, by imprisoning and impoverishing the masses and lining his own pocket while ruling with an iron fist inside an iron gauntlet?
I'm sure those americans that are old wise enough to remember being affected by the missile crisis have an even worse view of him, because he was so anti-american in general, but even over here he was viewed as a ruthless dictator who the world would be better without.
Maybe in the beginning he was truly a freedom fighter, looking to topple a corrupt government, but surely by the end he was himself the corrupt authority he was trying to depose.
Cleve, what are you getting at here? That Fidel Castro - Fidel Castro! - was massively misunderstood, and was a peaceful soul just looking to do the best for his country, by imprisoning and impoverishing the masses and lining his own pocket while ruling with an iron fist inside an iron gauntlet?
I'm sure those americans that are old wise enough to remember being affected by the missile crisis have an even worse view of him, because he was so anti-american in general, but even over here he was viewed as a ruthless dictator who the world would be better without.
Maybe in the beginning he was truly a freedom fighter, looking to topple a corrupt government, but surely by the end he was himself the corrupt authority he was trying to depose.
I'm really glad you lined out old. I am 62 years 'young'. Old makes my blood boil......
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Cleve, what are you getting at here? That Fidel Castro - Fidel Castro! - was massively misunderstood, and was a peaceful soul just looking to do the best for his country, by imprisoning and impoverishing the masses and lining his own pocket while ruling with an iron fist inside an iron gauntlet?
I'm sure those americans that are old wise enough to remember being affected by the missile crisis have an even worse view of him, because he was so anti-american in general, but even over here he was viewed as a ruthless dictator who the world would be better without.
Maybe in the beginning he was truly a freedom fighter, looking to topple a corrupt government, but surely by the end he was himself the corrupt authority he was trying to depose.
Cleve, what are you getting at here? That Fidel Castro - Fidel Castro! - was massively misunderstood, and was a peaceful soul just looking to do the best for his country, by imprisoning and impoverishing the masses and lining his own pocket while ruling with an iron fist inside an iron gauntlet?
I'm sure those americans that are
oldwise enough to remember being affected by the missile crisis have an even worse view of him, because he was so anti-american in general, but even over here he was viewed as a ruthless dictator who the world would be better without.Maybe in the beginning he was truly a freedom fighter, looking to topple a corrupt government, but surely by the end he was himself the corrupt authority he was trying to depose.
Go back and read what i wrote. Im wasnt for or against him, but i understood him because apparently a few minutes out of ur all's day to research and understand what was happening all over south america during that time, is just too much to ask.
Im going to reiterate my call that every single stipid white gringo in this forum, myself included......has zero comprehension about the cultural dynamics back then in south america. None of us has any standing to judge and moralize about any of those s american revolutionaries.......mainly because we were fed a dozzying amt of bullshit snd half truths about them. And thats the goal, obscure them enough and u can shape the natrative for decades
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Cleve, what are you getting at here? That Fidel Castro - Fidel Castro! - was massively misunderstood, and was a peaceful soul just looking to do the best for his country, by imprisoning and impoverishing the masses and lining his own pocket while ruling with an iron fist inside an iron gauntlet?
I'm sure those americans that are old wise enough to remember being affected by the missile crisis have an even worse view of him, because he was so anti-american in general, but even over here he was viewed as a ruthless dictator who the world would be better without.
Maybe in the beginning he was truly a freedom fighter, looking to topple a corrupt government, but surely by the end he was himself the corrupt authority he was trying to depose.
I'm really glad you lined out old. I am 62 years 'young'. Old makes my blood boil......
I'm really glad you lined out old. I am 62 years 'young'. Old makes my blood boil......
Ur max 5 years from the hospice so dont get away with urself
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