Why do people on the right still get worked up over castro?
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So the soviets were being unreasonable when they objected to our surrounding them essentially with missile bases in eastern euro countries, but as soon as that was turned on us it was blockade time which damn near kicked off ww3
So the soviets were being unreasonable when they objected to our surrounding them essentially with missile bases in eastern euro countries, but as soon as that was turned on us it was blockade time which damn near kicked off ww3
If Cuba had been in the Baltic Sea, the Soviets would have created a blockade. Geography and circumstances favored the U.S.
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We hated Castro. We were fine with Pinochet, the Shah, Sadaam Hussein (at least until he went rogue,
then---not so much).
The U.S. seems to have selective outrage when it comes to murderous dictators.
I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that Castro was allowing the Soviet Union to place missile silos 90 miles from the United States?
We also hated Hitler and Tojo but didn't seem to mind Stalin.
Somebody mentioned the American Revolution but that was just a case of the 1% here deciding they shouldn't have to send tax money to King George.
WSS
I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that Castro was allowing the Soviet Union to place missile silos 90 miles from the United States?
We also hated Hitler and Tojo but didn't seem to mind Stalin.
Somebody mentioned the American Revolution but that was just a case of the 1% here deciding they shouldn't have to send tax money to King George.
WSS
I'm sure you and a few others on here remember the weekly air raid drills we had in the 60's preparing for a nuclear war with Russia via Cuba. Not to mention quite a few think Castro was behind the assassination of JFK.
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Cruz ackn on tv yesterday that his own father got his shit pushed in by batistas men in prison. The reason the rev happened in the first place.
It is possible that both Batista and Castro were scumbags. This isn't an either/or proposition where one is swell and the other sucks.
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And now castro killed kennedy. U boobs beleive anything ur spoonfed
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And now castro killed kennedy. U boobs beleive anything ur spoonfed
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Gotta love the way this thread is rolling along Cleve.
And the best part is you aren't even trying to be the devil's advocate.
Next up:
Cleve speaks!
Reasons that Saddam Hussein Osama bin Laden Pol Pot and Pinochet were heroes persecuted by the evil US.
W
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Cleve, what are you getting at here? That Fidel Castro - Fidel Castro! - was massively misunderstood, and was a peaceful soul just looking to do the best for his country, by imprisoning and impoverishing the masses and lining his own pocket while ruling with an iron fist inside an iron gauntlet?
I'm sure those americans that are old wise enough to remember being affected by the missile crisis have an even worse view of him, because he was so anti-american in general, but even over here he was viewed as a ruthless dictator who the world would be better without.
Maybe in the beginning he was truly a freedom fighter, looking to topple a corrupt government, but surely by the end he was himself the corrupt authority he was trying to depose.
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Cleve, what are you getting at here? That Fidel Castro - Fidel Castro! - was massively misunderstood, and was a peaceful soul just looking to do the best for his country, by imprisoning and impoverishing the masses and lining his own pocket while ruling with an iron fist inside an iron gauntlet?
I'm sure those americans that are old wise enough to remember being affected by the missile crisis have an even worse view of him, because he was so anti-american in general, but even over here he was viewed as a ruthless dictator who the world would be better without.
Maybe in the beginning he was truly a freedom fighter, looking to topple a corrupt government, but surely by the end he was himself the corrupt authority he was trying to depose.
Cleve, what are you getting at here? That Fidel Castro - Fidel Castro! - was massively misunderstood, and was a peaceful soul just looking to do the best for his country, by imprisoning and impoverishing the masses and lining his own pocket while ruling with an iron fist inside an iron gauntlet?
I'm sure those americans that are old wise enough to remember being affected by the missile crisis have an even worse view of him, because he was so anti-american in general, but even over here he was viewed as a ruthless dictator who the world would be better without.
Maybe in the beginning he was truly a freedom fighter, looking to topple a corrupt government, but surely by the end he was himself the corrupt authority he was trying to depose.
I'm really glad you lined out old. I am 62 years 'young'. Old makes my blood boil......
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Cleve, what are you getting at here? That Fidel Castro - Fidel Castro! - was massively misunderstood, and was a peaceful soul just looking to do the best for his country, by imprisoning and impoverishing the masses and lining his own pocket while ruling with an iron fist inside an iron gauntlet?
I'm sure those americans that are old wise enough to remember being affected by the missile crisis have an even worse view of him, because he was so anti-american in general, but even over here he was viewed as a ruthless dictator who the world would be better without.
Maybe in the beginning he was truly a freedom fighter, looking to topple a corrupt government, but surely by the end he was himself the corrupt authority he was trying to depose.
Cleve, what are you getting at here? That Fidel Castro - Fidel Castro! - was massively misunderstood, and was a peaceful soul just looking to do the best for his country, by imprisoning and impoverishing the masses and lining his own pocket while ruling with an iron fist inside an iron gauntlet?
I'm sure those americans that are
oldwise enough to remember being affected by the missile crisis have an even worse view of him, because he was so anti-american in general, but even over here he was viewed as a ruthless dictator who the world would be better without.Maybe in the beginning he was truly a freedom fighter, looking to topple a corrupt government, but surely by the end he was himself the corrupt authority he was trying to depose.
Go back and read what i wrote. Im wasnt for or against him, but i understood him because apparently a few minutes out of ur all's day to research and understand what was happening all over south america during that time, is just too much to ask.
Im going to reiterate my call that every single stipid white gringo in this forum, myself included......has zero comprehension about the cultural dynamics back then in south america. None of us has any standing to judge and moralize about any of those s american revolutionaries.......mainly because we were fed a dozzying amt of bullshit snd half truths about them. And thats the goal, obscure them enough and u can shape the natrative for decades
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Cleve, what are you getting at here? That Fidel Castro - Fidel Castro! - was massively misunderstood, and was a peaceful soul just looking to do the best for his country, by imprisoning and impoverishing the masses and lining his own pocket while ruling with an iron fist inside an iron gauntlet?
I'm sure those americans that are old wise enough to remember being affected by the missile crisis have an even worse view of him, because he was so anti-american in general, but even over here he was viewed as a ruthless dictator who the world would be better without.
Maybe in the beginning he was truly a freedom fighter, looking to topple a corrupt government, but surely by the end he was himself the corrupt authority he was trying to depose.
I'm really glad you lined out old. I am 62 years 'young'. Old makes my blood boil......
I'm really glad you lined out old. I am 62 years 'young'. Old makes my blood boil......
Ur max 5 years from the hospice so dont get away with urself
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Didn't Cuba throw a ton of protesters in prison right before Obama visited
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Didn't Cuba throw a ton of protesters in prison right before Obama visited
It was 50. I guess if u weighed them all they probably come to about a few tons. In any case those people march every sunday after church, get arrested and are released a day or so later. Than they do it all over again thebfollowing sunday. Such a brutal regime.
But here everytime like 5 black people get together and hold blm signs you chickens get to hopping on one leg "throw those niggeroos in jail how dare they, how dare!!!"
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You guys are so morally and ethically consistent
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Cleve, what are you getting at here? That Fidel Castro - Fidel Castro! - was massively misunderstood, and was a peaceful soul just looking to do the best for his country, by imprisoning and impoverishing the masses and lining his own pocket while ruling with an iron fist inside an iron gauntlet?
I'm sure those americans that are
oldwise enough to remember being affected by the missile crisis have an even worse view of him, because he was so anti-american in general, but even over here he was viewed as a ruthless dictator who the world would be better without.Maybe in the beginning he was truly a freedom fighter, looking to topple a corrupt government, but surely by the end he was himself the corrupt authority he was trying to depose.
Go back and read what i wrote. Im wasnt for or against him, but i understood him because apparently a few minutes out of ur all's day to research and understand what was happening all over south america during that time, is just too much to ask.
Im going to reiterate my call that every single stipid white gringo in this forum, myself included......has zero comprehension about the cultural dynamics back then in south america. None of us has any standing to judge and moralize about any of those s american revolutionaries.......mainly because we were fed a dozzying amt of bullshit snd half truths about them. And thats the goal, obscure them enough and u can shape the natrative for decades
Go back and read what i wrote. Im wasnt for or against him, but i understood him because apparently a few minutes out of ur all's day to research and understand what was happening all over south america during that time, is just too much to ask.
Im going to reiterate my call that every single stipid white gringo in this forum, myself included......has zero comprehension about the cultural dynamics back then in south america. None of us has any standing to judge and moralize about any of those s american revolutionaries.......mainly because we were fed a dozzying amt of bullshit snd half truths about them. And thats the goal, obscure them enough and u can shape the natrative for decades
So what, it was culturally acceptable to be a brutal dictator? Like I said, maybe he was fighting the good fight at the start, but that clearly wasn't the case at the end. Just because maybe some other places were worse, doesn't mean he wasn't bad.
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You guys are so morally and ethically consistent
️You guys are so morally and ethically consistent
️Stuart
You're so consistent at being a moron. Someone else explain to this simpleton the difference between Cuban protesters and the BLM.
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I think what Cleve is trying to some of you is that you can't rely on everything the MSM, even from 40-60 years ago tells you. The propaganda machine is strong in every government. Oliver Stone's documentary series called The Untold History of America is very interesting. From Wikipedia it states
"It covers "the reasons behind the Cold War with the Soviet Union, U.S. President Harry Truman's decision to drop the atomic bomb on Japan, and changes in America's global role since the fall of Communism."[6] Stone is the director and narrator of all ten episodes. The series is a reexamination of some of the underreported and darkest parts of American modern history, using little-known documents and newly uncovered archival material. The series looks beyond official versions of events to the deeper causes and implications and explores how events from the past still have resonant themes for the present day. Stone said, "From the outset I've looked at this project as a legacy to my children and a way to understand the times I've lived through. I hope it can contribute to a more global insight into our American history."[7]
I suggest you watch this series as it is on Netflix. I'm through the first three and find it very interesting.
The point is, not everything is always as it is reported. Castro was an asshole, no doubt. But the narrative is usually different when wearing a different pair of shoes.
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Thank you, ffs someone finally gets it
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My point was that if some of you had endured what people did then, you migjt become a cocksucking asshole too. Think if u were one of the people brutalized by isis.....think maybe years later you might be tempted to take revenge on some muslim and/or his entire family "just" because he's muslim but had nothing to do with radicsl extremism?
If u had lived through the spanish invasion of south america and witnessed them smashing babies over rocks (troo story btw) you think you wouldnt be tempted at some point later to take some children from christian families and make em all watch as you fucked their kids up?
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I think what Cleve is trying to some of you is that you can't rely on everything the MSM, even from 40-60 years ago tells you. The propaganda machine is strong in every government. Oliver Stone's documentary series called The Untold History of America is very interesting. From Wikipedia it states
"It covers "the reasons behind the Cold War with the Soviet Union, U.S. President Harry Truman's decision to drop the atomic bomb on Japan, and changes in America's global role since the fall of Communism."[6] Stone is the director and narrator of all ten episodes. The series is a reexamination of some of the underreported and darkest parts of American modern history, using little-known documents and newly uncovered archival material. The series looks beyond official versions of events to the deeper causes and implications and explores how events from the past still have resonant themes for the present day. Stone said, "From the outset I've looked at this project as a legacy to my children and a way to understand the times I've lived through. I hope it can contribute to a more global insight into our American history."[7]
I suggest you watch this series as it is on Netflix. I'm through the first three and find it very interesting.
The point is, not everything is always as it is reported. Castro was an asshole, no doubt. But the narrative is usually different when wearing a different pair of shoes.
I think what Cleve is trying to some of you is that you can't rely on everything the MSM, even from 40-60 years ago tells you. The propaganda machine is strong in every government. Oliver Stone's documentary series called The Untold History of America is very interesting. From Wikipedia it states.
True, but there's still nothing to admire about people like Castro or Che. Irony is that people believe the government fed propaganda to get people to support toppling Castro and red scare stuff blah blah and that Castro was really a brave revolutionary - then these same people are gobbling up the current MSM propaganda that Russia is controlling our elections and that Hillary is a great person and we should go to ww3 with Russia.
Regardless the far-left idolizes Castro/Che despite the many truths that exist about what they've done. Like lining up dissidents in front of firing squads without trial or proof of guilt, sending gays to re-education camps.
The far-left is crazy:
- Trump is Hitler, he wants to round up all the gays and send them to re-education camps
- Castro literally rounded up gays and sent them to re-education camps, what a hero.
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My point was that if some of you had endured what people did then, you migjt become a cocksucking asshole too. Think if u were one of the people brutalized by isis.....think maybe years later you might be tempted to take revenge on some muslim and/or his entire family "just" because he's muslim but had nothing to do with radicsl extremism?
If u had lived through the spanish invasion of south america and witnessed them smashing babies over rocks (troo story btw) you think you wouldnt be tempted at some point later to take some children from christian families and make em all watch as you fucked their kids up?
My point was that if some of you had endured what people did then, you migjt become a cocksucking asshole too. Think if u were one of the people brutalized by isis.....think maybe years later you might be tempted to take revenge on some muslim and/or his entire family "just" because he's muslim but had nothing to do with radicsl extremism?
If u had lived through the spanish invasion of south america and witnessed them smashing babies over rocks (troo story btw) you think you wouldnt be tempted at some point later to take some children from christian families and make em all watch as you fucked their kids up?
Overthrowing your oppressors is fine. Becoming the new oppressor is where Castro became a shit head.
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