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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @one-post said:

    My wife is from Iowa City and I have visited there many times. Iowa Hawkeye football at a home game is awesome! The whole town is yellow and black with kids on bicycles. I asked my father in law and he explained to me that underclass men can't drive on campus; thus the bicycles.

    Looks too much like Steeler shit for my good. But, I did visit Iowa's campus a couple of years ago.

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    @the-gipper said:

    Looks too much like Steeler shit for my good. But, I did visit Iowa's campus a couple of years ago.

    I agree. I can't watch Iowa play. The look like the stoolers too much
    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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      Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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      Harbutt is a fool on the sidelines for sure, but his QB turned the ball over 3 times. Giving OSU 14 points and taking 7 points away from his own team. That's why they lost the game, not because of the officials

      "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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        Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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        Did harbutt also post on twitter, back in February,

        "Question of the day: Does anyone find whining to be attractive? Just curious.

        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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          @the-gipper said:

          Looks too much like Steeler shit for my good. But, I did visit Iowa's campus a couple of years ago.

          Nothing Steeler about It Gip. It's a school atmosphere. My father in law passed a couple of years ago and on his funeral...on the way to the graveyard with his ashes we were held up by game traffic. The driver apologized and we all knew "dude" wouldn't have minded being a little late to his funeral because of a Hawkeye Game.
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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @one-post said:

          Nothing Steeler about It Gip. It's a school atmosphere. My father in law passed a couple of years ago and on his funeral...on the way to the graveyard with his ashes we were held up by game traffic. The driver apologized and we all knew "dude" wouldn't have minded being a little late to his funeral because of a Hawkeye Game.

          I know...it is just the color scheme.

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            @one-post said:

            Nothing Steeler about It Gip. It's a school atmosphere. My father in law passed a couple of years ago and on his funeral...on the way to the graveyard with his ashes we were held up by game traffic. The driver apologized and we all knew "dude" wouldn't have minded being a little late to his funeral because of a Hawkeye Game.

            I know...it is just the color scheme.

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            Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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            @the-gipper said:

            I know...it is just the color scheme.

            same here. I hate their uniforms
            "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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            • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

              Is that the fake photo the OSU WR coach posted on twitter? Lol

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              @mld-woody said:

              Is that the fake photo the OSU WR coach posted on twitter? Lol

              It is the view from the overhead camera....the same view they showed on replay within seconds of when the play was run.

              http://www.businessinsider.com/ohio-state-beat-michigan-double-overtime-2016-11

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                There were also two blatant PIs that aren't called on OSU, when Michiganbwas called for the exact same thing. Just saying....

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                @mld-woody said:

                There were also two blatant PIs that aren't called on OSU, when Michiganbwas called for the exact same thing. Just saying....

                There MAY have been ONE.....the other was just your piss colored slanted view of things.

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  I thought Whines Hard was a retired Steeler WR.....guess there must be a clone.

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                    @mld-woody said:

                    Is that the fake photo the OSU WR coach posted on twitter? Lol

                    It is the view from the overhead camera....the same view they showed on replay within seconds of when the play was run.

                    http://www.businessinsider.com/ohio-state-beat-michigan-double-overtime-2016-11

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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                    @the-gipper said:

                    It is the view from the overhead camera....the same view they showed on replay within seconds of when the play was run.

                    http://www.businessinsider.com/ohio-state-beat-michigan-double-overtime-2016-11

                    This is the view from the broadcast camera

                    ohio-state-fourth.jpg

                    If you shift your POV left, to be directly over the 15 yard line, how do the players move further to the left relative to the 15 yard line?

                    Not to mention the angle of the hash marks to off of the 15 yard line don't make sense, lol.

                    FYI, I'm not the only one calling this a shopped photo.

                    I'm not saying one way or another whether this was a 1st down. Regardless, using a photoshopped photo as evidence doesn't help your case.

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      There were also two blatant PIs that aren't called on OSU, when Michiganbwas called for the exact same thing. Just saying....

                      There MAY have been ONE.....the other was just your piss colored slanted view of things.

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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                      @the-gipper said:

                      There MAY have been ONE.....the other was just your piss colored slanted view of things.

                      MAYBE one, huh?

                      First question, is this a penalty?

                      MIhold.0.gif

                      ok, how about this?

                      ohpi.0.gif

                      Guess which one was called?

                      How about this?

                      CyPYjGSWgAAWYhi.jpg

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        The background of the refs.

                        - 1 was previously dismissed by the Big Ten

                        - 1 is an Ohio native inducted into the Ohio High School reffing HOF with the ceremony in Columbus

                        and the worst

                        - 1 that is an open OSU fan, that was previously banned from reffing the 2006 Michigan vs OSU game because of any perceived bias.

                        How in the hell does that guy ref the game if he wasn't allowed to in 2006?

                        Look, Michigan could have done a number of things slightly better to win. The fumble on the 1. The pick 6. I get that. But when you're also working against poor, potentially biased refs in a very tight game, it is a tough pill to swallow.

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                          mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                          The first one was the m guy grabbing first, that was easy.

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            It is the view from the overhead camera....the same view they showed on replay within seconds of when the play was run.

                            http://www.businessinsider.com/ohio-state-beat-michigan-double-overtime-2016-11

                            This is the view from the broadcast camera

                            ohio-state-fourth.jpg

                            If you shift your POV left, to be directly over the 15 yard line, how do the players move further to the left relative to the 15 yard line?

                            Not to mention the angle of the hash marks to off of the 15 yard line don't make sense, lol.

                            FYI, I'm not the only one calling this a shopped photo.

                            I'm not saying one way or another whether this was a 1st down. Regardless, using a photoshopped photo as evidence doesn't help your case.

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @mld-woody said:

                            This is the view from the broadcast camera

                            ohio-state-fourth.jpg

                            If you shift your POV left, to be directly over the 15 yard line, how do the players move further to the left relative to the 15 yard line?

                            Not to mention the angle of the hash marks to off of the 15 yard line don't make sense, lol.

                            FYI, I'm not the only one calling this a shopped photo.

                            I'm not saying one way or another whether this was a 1st down. Regardless, using a photoshopped photo as evidence doesn't help your case.

                            It is clearly a first down....you just want to be a dumb dick about it....like Harbaugh.

                            There is no angle that can be produced that would ever show it ever being anything but a first down.

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              There MAY have been ONE.....the other was just your piss colored slanted view of things.

                              MAYBE one, huh?

                              First question, is this a penalty?

                              MIhold.0.gif

                              ok, how about this?

                              ohpi.0.gif

                              Guess which one was called?

                              How about this?

                              CyPYjGSWgAAWYhi.jpg

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              @mld-woody said:

                              MAYBE one, huh?

                              First question, is this a penalty?

                              MIhold.0.gif

                              In this one...it should have clearly been the Michigan player that would have been called...HE grabbed the OSU player around the shoulder.

                              ok, how about this?

                              ohpi.0.gif

                              Yep, again UM player is the one initiating the contact and doing the grabbing.

                              Guess which one was called?

                              Neither should have been called on OSU.. The first one should have been called on Michigan.

                              How about this?

                              CyPYjGSWgAAWYhi.jpg

                              That one, probably.

                              So...that is one. Wouldn't have mattered, UM would have just turned it over the next play anyway.

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                This is the view from the broadcast camera

                                ohio-state-fourth.jpg

                                If you shift your POV left, to be directly over the 15 yard line, how do the players move further to the left relative to the 15 yard line?

                                Not to mention the angle of the hash marks to off of the 15 yard line don't make sense, lol.

                                FYI, I'm not the only one calling this a shopped photo.

                                I'm not saying one way or another whether this was a 1st down. Regardless, using a photoshopped photo as evidence doesn't help your case.

                                It is clearly a first down....you just want to be a dumb dick about it....like Harbaugh.

                                There is no angle that can be produced that would ever show it ever being anything but a first down.

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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                @the-gipper said:

                                It is clearly a first down....you just want to be a dumb dick about it....like Harbaugh.

                                There is no angle that can be produced that would ever show it ever being anything but a first down.

                                Again, I'm not making any comment on whether or not that was a first. I'm just telling you you're using a photoshopped photo. If you wan to make your case, that's not the best way to do.

                                Also, there are angles that do exist though show it possibly not looking like a first. Like this: (just sayin)

                                CyT87YuUAAAyMM_.jpg

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  MAYBE one, huh?

                                  First question, is this a penalty?

                                  MIhold.0.gif

                                  In this one...it should have clearly been the Michigan player that would have been called...HE grabbed the OSU player around the shoulder.

                                  ok, how about this?

                                  ohpi.0.gif

                                  Yep, again UM player is the one initiating the contact and doing the grabbing.

                                  Guess which one was called?

                                  Neither should have been called on OSU.. The first one should have been called on Michigan.

                                  How about this?

                                  CyPYjGSWgAAWYhi.jpg

                                  That one, probably.

                                  So...that is one. Wouldn't have mattered, UM would have just turned it over the next play anyway.

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                                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  That one, probably.

                                  So...that is one. Wouldn't have mattered, UM would have just turned it over the next play anyway.

                                  Lol, wait, are you saying the 2nd GIF i posted SHOULDN'T have been a foul on OSU?

                                  Hahaha, come on man. Are you THAT biased?

                                  That penalty also mattered a great deal, as it would have kept our last 4th quarter drive alive. And any time OSU lost in their final drive to tie it up would have been huge.

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                                    The first one was the m guy grabbing first, that was easy.

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    @mjp28 said:

                                    The first one was the m guy grabbing first, that was easy.

                                    Right, I'm not arguing against it. That's the point. The precedent was set, but when the exact same thing (or worse) went the opposite way, there was no call.

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                                      The background of the refs.

                                      - 1 was previously dismissed by the Big Ten

                                      - 1 is an Ohio native inducted into the Ohio High School reffing HOF with the ceremony in Columbus

                                      and the worst

                                      - 1 that is an open OSU fan, that was previously banned from reffing the 2006 Michigan vs OSU game because of any perceived bias.

                                      How in the hell does that guy ref the game if he wasn't allowed to in 2006?

                                      Look, Michigan could have done a number of things slightly better to win. The fumble on the 1. The pick 6. I get that. But when you're also working against poor, potentially biased refs in a very tight game, it is a tough pill to swallow.

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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      The background of the refs.

                                      - 1 was previously dismissed by the Big Ten

                                      - 1 is an Ohio native inducted into the Ohio High School reffing HOF with the ceremony in Columbus

                                      and the worst

                                      - 1 that is an open OSU fan, that was previously banned from reffing the 2006 Michigan vs OSU game because of any perceived bias.

                                      How in the hell does that guy ref the game if he wasn't allowed to in 2006?

                                      Look, Michigan could have done a number of things slightly better to win. The fumble on the 1. The pick 6. I get that. But when you're also working against poor, potentially biased refs in a very tight game, it is a tough pill to swallow.

                                      They weren't good enough.

                                      If you say they "ran out of gas", then that means that they weren't anywhere in as good condition as OSU. They had the TOP advantage. It should have been the other way around.

                                      I suspect that if we dissected every play of the game that there would have been 5-6 PIs and other calls that could have been called on Michigan that weren't.

                                      There were only 6 real penalties called (not counting Harbaugh's US penalty)

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        - You can "suspect" whatever you want, but let's see some kind of proof to back it up

                                        - Players take subs from backups. Those backups play. The better the backups, the better they play. The better depth, the better the backups. The coach that has been in his spot for 5 years is probably going to have developed better depth than the coach that has been there two (that's without comparing the talent level they started with). That statement has nothing to do with the Michigan players not being as conditioned as the OSU players. If they're asked to play more than the OSU players, it would make sense they're more tired...

                                        - I have still yet to hear, from anyone, the justification for allowing the open OSU fan ref to ref. It's ridiculous.

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                                          The background of the refs.

                                          - 1 was previously dismissed by the Big Ten

                                          - 1 is an Ohio native inducted into the Ohio High School reffing HOF with the ceremony in Columbus

                                          and the worst

                                          - 1 that is an open OSU fan, that was previously banned from reffing the 2006 Michigan vs OSU game because of any perceived bias.

                                          How in the hell does that guy ref the game if he wasn't allowed to in 2006?

                                          Look, Michigan could have done a number of things slightly better to win. The fumble on the 1. The pick 6. I get that. But when you're also working against poor, potentially biased refs in a very tight game, it is a tough pill to swallow.

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          The background of the refs.

                                          - 1 was previously dismissed by the Big Ten

                                          - 1 is an Ohio native inducted into the Ohio High School reffing HOF with the ceremony in Columbus

                                          and the worst

                                          - 1 that is an open OSU fan, that was previously banned from reffing the 2006 Michigan vs OSU game because of any perceived bias.

                                          How in the hell does that guy ref the game if he wasn't allowed to in 2006?

                                          Look, Michigan could have done a number of things slightly better to win. The fumble on the 1. The pick 6. I get that. But when you're also working against poor, potentially biased refs in a very tight game, it is a tough pill to swallow.

                                          You are grasping at straws woody. You ought to work for Hillary.

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