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  • @mld-woody said:

    - You can "suspect" whatever you want, but let's see some kind of proof to back it up

    I just looked at the items you posted. Only one of those plays should have been possibly called a penalty. I suspect that I can tell what is front of my face.

    - Players take subs from backups. Those backups play. The better the backups, the better they play. The better depth, the better the backups. The coach that has been in his spot for 5 years is probably going to have developed better depth than the coach that has been there two (that's without comparing the talent level they started with). That statement has nothing to do with the Michigan players not being as conditioned as the OSU players. If they're asked to play more than the OSU players, it would make sense they're more tired...

    I don't buy this shit. You are making excuse after excuse? "We're tired. The refs was a fan of the other team. The sun was in our eyes. Our dogs ate our playbooks. We ate spicy Mexican food.

    You lost because your QB and your defense weren't good enough. Speight was a TO machine...and the Buckeyes hammered you on the ground.

    - I have still yet to hear, from anyone, the justification for allowing the open OSU fan ref to ref. It's ridiculous.

    Here is your explanation: because he wasn't.

    @the-gipper said:

    @mld-woody said:

    - I have still yet to hear, from anyone, the justification for allowing the open OSU fan ref to ref. It's ridiculous.

    Here is your explanation: because he wasn't.

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    http://www.athensnews.com/news/local/local-businessman-has-interesting-hobby----he-refs/article_ff61a741-18ae-57a0-ba31-a3188493324b.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

    Again, try not to act as an authority on things you don't know anything about.

    I don't see how anyone could think it made sense for this guy to ref the game, when he wasn't allowed to previously.

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    @mld-woody said:

    There were also two blatant PIs that aren't called on OSU, when Michiganbwas called for the exact same thing. Just saying....

    stfu,Meyer gave you guys a t.d on that fuck punt so quit your bitching

    @syd said:

    stfu,Meyer gave you guys a t.d on that fuck punt so quit your bitching

    Right, which was a dumb play. Michigan also had dumb/unlucky plays, just like OSU did. In a close game, if those go one way or another, than can be the difference. But this thread was start, by someone else, regarding the officials so that is was we are talking about.

  • @the-gipper said:

    @mld-woody said:

    - I have still yet to hear, from anyone, the justification for allowing the open OSU fan ref to ref. It's ridiculous.

    Here is your explanation: because he wasn't.

    screen-shot-2016-11-27-at-8-40-05-pm.png

    http://www.athensnews.com/news/local/local-businessman-has-interesting-hobby----he-refs/article_ff61a741-18ae-57a0-ba31-a3188493324b.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

    Again, try not to act as an authority on things you don't know anything about.

    I don't see how anyone could think it made sense for this guy to ref the game, when he wasn't allowed to previously.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    So far I've seen you say well Michigan doesn't have the talent level of osu's underclassmen, biased refs, photoshops, what next? OSU staged a terrorist attack to take the heat off JT? Get the fuck outta here with that weak shit.

    Holy shit you guys just can't distinguish between one post and another, huh?

    - They don't have the same talent level top to bottom. That isn't debatable. It's just a fact and it played a factor. That makes OSU a better team. It isn't some hidden reason why Michigan should have won.

    - There is one ref that was kept from reffing this game in 2006 because of pro-OSU bias. Why was he allowed to ref this game?

    - The photoshop was in reference to the OP of this thread. It has nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

    Is this all clear to you now?

    @mld-woody said:

    Holy shit you guys just can't distinguish between one post and another, huh?

    - They don't have the same talent level top to bottom. That isn't debatable. It's just a fact and it played a factor. That makes OSU a better team. It isn't some hidden reason why Michigan should have won.

    - There is one ref that was kept from reffing this game in 2006 because of pro-OSU bias. Why was he allowed to ref this game?

    - The photoshop was in reference to the OP of this thread. It has nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

    Is this all clear to you now?

    I can easily distinguish when excuses are being made and straws are being grasped at.

  • @browns149 said:

    as the pot says to the kettle

    Please point to anything in this thread that I've said where I demonstrably do not know what I am talking about.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Holy shit you guys just can't distinguish between one post and another, huh?

    - They don't have the same talent level top to bottom. That isn't debatable. It's just a fact and it played a factor. That makes OSU a better team. It isn't some hidden reason why Michigan should have won.

    - There is one ref that was kept from reffing this game in 2006 because of pro-OSU bias. Why was he allowed to ref this game?

    - The photoshop was in reference to the OP of this thread. It has nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

    Is this all clear to you now?

    I can easily distinguish when excuses are being made and straws are being grasped at.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I can easily distinguish when excuses are being made and straws are being grasped at.

    You seemed to have a hard time distinguishing between what was an excuse for why we lost the game to being with. Case and point, you referenced "photoshop", which literally has 0 to do with how the game was called or turned out.

    and again, why was that ref allowed to ref the game?

  • @browns149 said:

    as the pot says to the kettle

    Please point to anything in this thread that I've said where I demonstrably do not know what I am talking about.

    @mld-woody said:

    Please point to anything in this thread that I've said where I demonstrably do not know what I am talking about.

    do you have proof the picture is photoshopped?
  • @syd said:

    stfu,Meyer gave you guys a t.d on that fuck punt so quit your bitching

    Right, which was a dumb play. Michigan also had dumb/unlucky plays, just like OSU did. In a close game, if those go one way or another, than can be the difference. But this thread was start, by someone else, regarding the officials so that is was we are talking about.

    @mld-woody said:

    Right, which was a dumb play. Michigan also had dumb/unlucky plays, just like OSU did. In a close game, if those go one way or another, than can be the difference. But this thread was start, by someone else, regarding the officials so that is was we are talking about.

    just as good calls and bad calls it's all part of the game

  • sydS syd

    @mld-woody said:

    Right, which was a dumb play. Michigan also had dumb/unlucky plays, just like OSU did. In a close game, if those go one way or another, than can be the difference. But this thread was start, by someone else, regarding the officials so that is was we are talking about.

    just as good calls and bad calls it's all part of the game

    @syd said:

    just as good calls and bad calls it's all part of the game

    By and large the refs in professional or college football are pretty good but when you have 22 big, fast, unreal athletics running around close calls or misses can and do occasionally happen.

    I'm just glad OHIO STATE won. 😉

  • @mld-woody said:

    Please point to anything in this thread that I've said where I demonstrably do not know what I am talking about.

    do you have proof the picture is photoshopped?

    @browns149 said:

    do you have proof the picture is photoshopped?

    What I posted in the first response. "How angles work" would be my answer, lol.

  • @syd said:

    just as good calls and bad calls it's all part of the game

    By and large the refs in professional or college football are pretty good but when you have 22 big, fast, unreal athletics running around close calls or misses can and do occasionally happen.

    I'm just glad OHIO STATE won. 😉

    @mjp28 said:

    By and large the refs in professional or college football are pretty good but when you have 22 big, fast, unreal athletics running around close calls or misses can and do occasionally happen.

    I'm just glad OHIO STATE won. 😉

    Really its amazing that the B1G does pay for full time refs. Hundreds of millions of dollars are being tossed around for the sport, but the refs are people that do it as a hobby / second job.

  • @syd said:

    just as good calls and bad calls it's all part of the game

    By and large the refs in professional or college football are pretty good but when you have 22 big, fast, unreal athletics running around close calls or misses can and do occasionally happen.

    I'm just glad OHIO STATE won. 😉

    @mjp28 said:

    By and large the refs in professional or college football are pretty good but when you have 22 big, fast, unreal athletics running around close calls or misses can and do occasionally happen.

    I'm just glad OHIO STATE won. 😉

    agreed and I have been on both side of the call's and used to get pissed at the ref's(when I was a kid) of course I grew up and learned to get over it

  • @browns149 said:

    do you have proof the picture is photoshopped?

    What I posted in the first response. "How angles work" would be my answer, lol.

    @mld-woody said:

    What I posted in the first response. "How angles work" would be my answer, lol.

    So...no then.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    I can easily distinguish when excuses are being made and straws are being grasped at.

    You seemed to have a hard time distinguishing between what was an excuse for why we lost the game to being with. Case and point, you referenced "photoshop", which literally has 0 to do with how the game was called or turned out.

    and again, why was that ref allowed to ref the game?

    @mld-woody said:

    You seemed to have a hard time distinguishing between what was an excuse for why we lost the game to being with. Case and point, you referenced "photoshop", which literally has 0 to do with how the game was called or turned out.

    and again, why was that ref allowed to ref the game?

    Why do you keep denying that you're making every excuse in the book including corrupt mob refs and photoshopped photographic evidence? Just come clean and say you're salty as fuck that meatchicken lost and you're moving through the stages of grief.

  • @mld-woody said:

    You seemed to have a hard time distinguishing between what was an excuse for why we lost the game to being with. Case and point, you referenced "photoshop", which literally has 0 to do with how the game was called or turned out.

    and again, why was that ref allowed to ref the game?

    Why do you keep denying that you're making every excuse in the book including corrupt mob refs and photoshopped photographic evidence? Just come clean and say you're salty as fuck that meatchicken lost and you're moving through the stages of grief.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Why do you keep denying that you're making every excuse in the book including corrupt mob refs and photoshopped photographic evidence? Just come clean and say you're salty as fuck that meatchicken lost and you're moving through the stages of grief.

    Again, the photoshop has nothing to do with the outcome of the game, or the outcome of the play. I am not sure why you aren't getting this....

    I definitely think the officiating had an affect on the game. I mean, we have a few examples of incorrect calls against Michigan. In a game this tight, that could be the difference. Yes, OSU could have not made a few mistakes. Michigan could have not made a few mistakes. I get that, but that doesn't change the ref situation.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Uh, no? Did you hear a whistle blow? Teams do stuff like this to strike fear in the other team. It works.

    Also, I'm not sure exactly what the 5 yard PI rule is, but I'm guessing OSU's non-PI had to do with that. In short, your guy got ragdolled. The first 5 yards separates the men from the boys.

  • Woody is now right up there with warrior fans in June and Jose Bautista claiming the refs screwed you. Every team that loses a demoralizing game wants to point blame at anyone but themselves.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    So far I've seen you say well Michigan doesn't have the talent level of osu's underclassmen, biased refs, photoshops, what next? OSU staged a terrorist attack to take the heat off JT? Get the fuck outta here with that weak shit.

    Holy shit you guys just can't distinguish between one post and another, huh?

    - They don't have the same talent level top to bottom. That isn't debatable. It's just a fact and it played a factor. That makes OSU a better team. It isn't some hidden reason why Michigan should have won.

    - There is one ref that was kept from reffing this game in 2006 because of pro-OSU bias. Why was he allowed to ref this game?

    - The photoshop was in reference to the OP of this thread. It has nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

    Is this all clear to you now?

    @mld-woody said:

    Holy shit you guys just can't distinguish between one post and another, huh?

    - They don't have the same talent level top to bottom. That isn't debatable. It's just a fact and it played a factor. That makes OSU a better team. It isn't some hidden reason why Michigan should have won.

    - There is one ref that was kept from reffing this game in 2006 because of pro-OSU bias. Why was he allowed to ref this game?

    - The photoshop was in reference to the OP of this thread. It has nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

    Is this all clear to you now?

    Except, of course for the fact that the so called photoshop....shows exactly what happened. Barrett crossed the line, and then got pushed back...and all you and Harbaugh see is where he was when he got pushed back.

    There is this thing in football called "forward progress"....I suggest you and Jim boy look it up and learn about it.

  • @the-gipper said:

    It is clearly a first down....you just want to be a dumb dick about it....like Harbaugh.

    There is no angle that can be produced that would ever show it ever being anything but a first down.

    Again, I'm not making any comment on whether or not that was a first. I'm just telling you you're using a photoshopped photo. If you wan to make your case, that's not the best way to do.

    Also, there are angles that do exist though show it possibly not looking like a first. Like this: (just sayin)

    CyT87YuUAAAyMM_.jpg

    @mld-woody said:

    Again, I'm not making any comment on whether or not that was a first. I'm just telling you you're using a photoshopped photo. If you wan to make your case, that's not the best way to do.

    Also, there are angles that do exist though show it possibly not looking like a first. Like this: (just sayin)

    CyT87YuUAAAyMM_.jpg

    Again....showing a photo after he got pushed back.