So....who gets cut??
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I'm going to update the 'roster tracker' email real quick, which should show us our depth and all. . . then we can work from there. .
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Mack will replace Fraley. Fraley is good enough to be a back-up, but he lacks versatility, which in the end will cost him a spot.
The receivers will replace Steptoe for sure. Just not sure how we handle the Stallworth deal as that isn't likely to be resolved for a year or so. We may just decide to cut him to avoid the distraction and take the cap hit. The more i think about it, that is probably the route we take.
Carey....here is the shocker...I think Pool is gone. I think the starting safeties will be Elam and Adams with carey or francies being groomed for a safety slot. We have also talked about Cribbs playing safety.
I just don't see Pool as a Manginite.
Veikume.....Orr is toast.
Maiava.....Bell, unless he really comes on in a big way. One of the common traits you can find in the guys we drafted is they are pretty bright. Learning disability or not, Bell isn't a bright individual.
Davis....the big question mark. Is Lewis done?? I think both Harrison and Wright bring more to the table at this point, and wouldn't be surprised to see Davis in a feature role.
That said...it is a toss-up that Davis replaces Lewis or one of the two fullbacks....as someone said, possibly Vickers as Ali seems to bring more to the field with his special teams play.
Keep bringing it....I think this is going to be the big story line as we head in to camp.
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Wright signed with Arizona I believe.
We've got Lewis, Harrison, Herron and Davis at RB.
I think Orr and S. Smith are goners for sure.
We might keep Steptoe and get rid of Sanders and Hubbard.
If you are looking for a band that sounds just like your favorite band, just forget about us. If you are looking for a band that will make you forget about your favorite band, we are here, just walk down Remedy Lane a few times and you will never be the same again... Daniel Gildenlow, Pain of Salvation -
the less intelligent ones:
Beau Bell
Lawrence Vickers
Kamerian Wimbley
the less intelligent ones:
Beau Bell
Lawrence Vickers
Kamerian Wimbley
HAHA. Let's just let a pro bowl FB who has done a GREAT job, our former 1st round/only pass rush threat walk... RIIIGHT. I'd be shocked to see Bell dropped this early as well. He is cheap and in a position of need.
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@jadbf said:
I'd have to look at how expensive Fraley is. if he's cheap, they keep him as insurance. Steptoe is for sure gone, and Hubbard is just as close. I think Pool lasts through this season until they get those guys you discussed trained. I think Bell has to step up or be gone.The only one I disagree greatly with you on is Lewis. He'll be here. I actually envision them just giving Harrison more carries, and somewhat transitioning Lewis into a Bettis role.
First....Rice.....thanks for the correction on Wright...I will have to rethink that one.
JAD...my only thinking on Fraley is he is a one position player. I like him at center over hadnot, but Hadnot brings more to the table as he also plays giard.
That is going to be a close one to watch, but in the end, I think the multi positions is what is going to save a few of those linemen.....maybe fraly takes Sowells slot...he's another who I think is going to have to hope for several people getting injured to make the squad.
I do agree the Lewis deal is a bold statement(some might call it dumb
).I just think Lewis may have hit the wall. He was awful slow to the hole this past season. I don't know if that is going to get much better.
Watch some film on Davis..he hits the line in a hurry, as does Harrison.
The difference between Davis and Harrison is Davis, while not a big back, is a good inside runner who has some pop in his step.
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That is a good point Jad...all players need some tutoring from vets. Mack would benefit from a guy like Fraley....line calls and such...though it isn't unheard of for a guard to call it to his center, who then calls it out to the other side of the line.
Steinbach could fill that role for a while if need be.
it will be a close call for Fraley and Hadnot.
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Ok, I've updated the roster list:
http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3456
The 'active' roster (by my records) shows 72 players. So, let's say we need to get down to the 53 man roster. Which 19 players do you think will be cut?
I don't think it's possible that Fraley gets cut. You can't bring in a new C and expect him to start right away without someone there to mentor him & back him up. I just don't see that happening.
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Here's my 19. I think we'll end up keeping one or two guys from this list and end up cutting one or two more DB's, but I'm not sure who.
QB - Bartel, Richard
RB - Thomas, Marcus - FA Signing from Detroit
RB - Patrick, Allen
WR - Ellis, Devale
WR - Hubbard, Paul (Practice Squad)
WR - Leggett, Lance
WR - Stallworth, Donte
TE - Walker, Aaron - FA Signing from St. Louis (Practice Squad)
OL - Sowells, Isaac
OL - Fry, Dustin
OL - Quarterman, Kurt (we'll have an OL on the practice squad I think)
DL - Purcell, Melila
DL - Smith, Shaun
DL - Thomas, Santonio
LB - Williams, Leon
LB - Holloway, David
LB - Brown, Titus
DB - Abdullah, Hamza
DB - Lawson, Gerard
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Here's my 19. I think we'll end up keeping one or two guys from this list and end up cutting one or two more DB's, but I'm not sure who.
QB - Bartel, Richard
RB - Thomas, Marcus - FA Signing from Detroit
RB - Patrick, Allen
WR - Ellis, Devale
WR - Hubbard, Paul (Practice Squad)
WR - Leggett, Lance
WR - Stallworth, Donte
TE - Walker, Aaron - FA Signing from St. Louis (Practice Squad)
OL - Sowells, Isaac
OL - Fry, Dustin
OL - Quarterman, Kurt (we'll have an OL on the practice squad I think)
DL - Purcell, Melila
DL - Smith, Shaun
DL - Thomas, Santonio
LB - Williams, Leon
LB - Holloway, David
LB - Brown, Titus
DB - Abdullah, Hamza
DB - Lawson, Gerard
Here's my 19. I think we'll end up keeping one or two guys from this list and end up cutting one or two more DB's, but I'm not sure who.
That's a good list. . . Might be right-on with what I would put together. For some reason I don't think they'll cut Shaun Smith this year, but otherwise I would agree.
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Here's my 19. I think we'll end up keeping one or two guys from this list and end up cutting one or two more DB's, but I'm not sure who.
QB - Bartel, Richard
RB - Thomas, Marcus - FA Signing from Detroit
RB - Patrick, Allen
WR - Ellis, Devale
WR - Hubbard, Paul (Practice Squad)
WR - Leggett, Lance
WR - Stallworth, Donte
TE - Walker, Aaron - FA Signing from St. Louis (Practice Squad)
OL - Sowells, Isaac
OL - Fry, Dustin
OL - Quarterman, Kurt (we'll have an OL on the practice squad I think)
DL - Purcell, Melila
DL - Smith, Shaun
DL - Thomas, Santonio
LB - Williams, Leon
LB - Holloway, David
LB - Brown, Titus
DB - Abdullah, Hamza
DB - Lawson, Gerard
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Lewis rushed for 1000 yards the past 2 seasons and was slow to the hole last year because there were no holes... I see Lewis having a great season in 2009...Keep in mind, he was hurt in preseason and played the year at about 85%... Lewis was the 1st Browns back to have back to back 1000 yard seasons since???????
T.Dawg
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Lewis rushed for 1000 yards the past 2 seasons and was slow to the hole last year because there were no holes... I see Lewis having a great season in 2009...Keep in mind, he was hurt in preseason and played the year at about 85%... Lewis was the 1st Browns back to have back to back 1000 yard seasons since???????
T.Dawg
Lewis rushed for 1000 yards the past 2 seasons and was slow to the hole last year because there were no holes... I see Lewis having a great season in 2009...Keep in mind, he was hurt in preseason and played the year at about 85%... Lewis was the 1st Browns back to have back to back 1000 yard seasons since???????
T.Dawg
Why not use Lewis as FB - He seems big enough. Just not sure how well he can block. Would be a better short yardage guy than Harrison. Harrison had to many big runs last year to just let this guy sit like he did under RAC.
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@jadbf said:
Kokinis is on record as saying he thinks Lewis still has gas in his tank.Hopefully enough to make it to the unemployment office
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I think the 19 above is a good start, but have a few comments.
Regarding Fraley, couldn't Steinbach and Hadnot be the backups at C while still being starting Gs? I know Steinbach is thought of as a backup at T, but am I right in thinking that he would be a backup C as well? If Mack starts day 1, then that would enable you to cut Fraley - Steinbach would be able to handle the mentoring thing as well assist in line calls. I can't imagine a new coach who is trying to turn over his roster keeping a backup o-lineman (and a tired old vet to boot) that can play only one position.
Also, if steptoe is cut, then who is the backup kick returner?
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the less intelligent ones:
Beau Bell
Lawrence Vickers
Kamerian Wimbley
Beau Bell
Lawrence Vickers
Kamerian Wimbley
Holy shit was this post stupid...
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@inspecta said:
We gave lewis a 6 million roster bonus in march, he's not going anywhere this year.Looks like you put your thinking cap on and figured out how that kind of thing works. Nice job inspecta.
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the less intelligent ones:
Beau Bell
Lawrence Vickers
Kamerian Wimbley
the less intelligent ones:
Beau Bell
Lawrence Vickers
Kamerian Wimbley
What?! Vickers was a pro bowl alternate and they have nobody to really replace Wimbley yet.
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