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An excellent article about why the popular vote doesn't rule

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  • and we have the electoral college.

    http://www.ammoland.com/2016/12/majority-rule-equals-tyranny/?utm_source=Ammoland+Subscribers&utm_campaign=213ee30772-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6f6fac3eaa-213ee30772-20770865#axzz4S7T9SVme

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  • The electoral college isnt' going anywhere, some people are going to have to learn to deal with it. The first obstacle is polls showing popular support for the electoral college. The second obstacle is it would need approval of 2/3 rds in the Senate and the House and finally voter approved in 38 states. Not going to happen.

  • "it's hard to change" isn't exactly support for the current system

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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  • It also doesn't stop OBF getting all excited about abortion laws which will never be passed.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    "it's hard to change" isn't exactly support for the current system

    @mld-woody said:

    "it's hard to change" isn't exactly support for the current system

    You didn't read obstacle 1.

    The electoral college isnt' going anywhere, some people are going to have to learn to deal with it. The first obstacle is polls showing popular support for the electoral college. The second obstacle is it would need approval of 2/3 rds in the Senate and the House and finally voter approved in 38 states. Not going to happen.

  • And a lot of Americans are scared by the word "nuclear" in nuclear power

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    And a lot of Americans are scared by the word "nuclear" in nuclear power

    @mld-woody said:

    And a lot of Americans are scared by the word "nuclear" in nuclear power

    I don't see anyone scared of the electoral college. Most see the need of it and it coincides with the principles of the founders of this country in setting up a republic and not a true democracy and to prevent concentration of power in certain areas of the country.

  • My analogy was more to highlight ignorance, not fear.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • After disasters at chernobyl and fukushima and, to a lesser degree, three mile island can you blame people?

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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    After disasters at chernobyl and fukushima and, to a lesser degree, three mile island can you blame people?

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    After disasters at chernobyl and fukushima and, to a lesser degree, three mile island can you blame people?

    Yes

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • Well then you're a sociopath. A lot of people don't understand nuclear power. You have to be able to understand how they feel

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • Fear out of ignorance. I can understand where they're coming from, but it doesn't mean they're right.

    At a scientific, technical level nuclear power is a great option. We have misconceptions leading to fear holding it back.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • The number of people killed as a result of Fukushima was in the hundreds, and it only happened because of an earthquake - pro-tip, don't build nuclear reactors on fault lines.

    Meanwhile, air pollution casualties runs into hundreds of thousands (in the US), to say nothing about respiratory diseases.

    Of course, that would need to be scaled to the number of power plants of each type. There are around 500 fossil fuel plants in the US. That puts it at around 400 deaths per power plant.

    There are plenty of other concerns - global warming from fossil fuel vs literal fallout from nuclear disasters, but those are becoming a lot more rare.

    Then there's solar, wind, hydro, tidal...

  • Actually, the Tsunami is what caused the nuclear disaster. The plant was shutting down per protocol when it detected the earthquake the Tsunami did the damage.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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  • oh, DH, don't confuse em with reality.

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