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  • C calfoxwc

    it's easier to be a wr when you have the oline intact, a qb, and other wr's to take away

    attention from you.

    if he were here, he still wouldn't be a star. Higgins could have been the same thing to them.

    if the Falcons had drafted Higgins, and he did the same thing, it would be "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! the stupid

    Browns kept Gabriel, and the Falcons got Higgins !"

    Maybe Gabriel wanted to go play for a winner, and nobody would trade him. Maybe whining doesn't fix anything.

    Things change when a player gets cut. Who knows? He had been with the Browns...how often did he make big plays and

    win games for the Browns?

    @calfoxwc said:

    Things change when a player gets cut. Who knows? He had been with the Browns...how often did he make big plays and win games for the Browns?

    Likely answer is not as often as he should have been given the opportunity to... Seems like most of his big plays ended with him on the ground trying to adjust to poorly thrown balls.

    Gabe was buried pretty deep in our depth chart and used primarily as a deep threat. D's tend to notice that and, just as was the case with Benji, shut him down. Also just as with Benji he has had to develop other routes to be effective going deep.

    The two quick screens Gabe took to the house yesterday were magical. I can't recall him being targeted by one in his time here, but then he only had one year under young Shanny. This just in: It turns out that kid is a pretty good OC.

    @mudfly said:

    So.....sorry Tour...said it anyway.....

    I'll let it go this time... with this reminder... I was in favor of cutting Hawk loose and keeping the younger Gabe.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • MudflyM Mudfly

    And, interestingly enough, the same happened in 2014 when Mack went down......and got worse when Bito went down....

    Then....they were dismal in 2015 and the thought was Mack & Bito hadnt returned to form or fully recovered....

    Then...this year....Bito was back strong, but we lost Mack(again) and Schwartz////

    Now.....there are 2 common themes here....make it 3......

    1) It's the NFL and players get hurt...."plan on it".....

    2) We only have a few good linemen, so it hurts when they go down....

    3) We have zero depth......(zero)....therefore, we did not "plan on it" (see #1)

    Sometimes if I'd turn the page, it'd save me some typing...

    @mudfly said:

    3) We have zero depth......(zero)....therefore, we did not "plan on it" (see #1)

    We have better OL depth than we've had in years. Its problem has been the depth has been injured and it has had to start.

    Our overall weakness is better attributed to the failure of two starters to emerge and/or stay healthy: Cam and Shon. I still have hope for one of them.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Sometimes if I'd turn the page, it'd save me some typing...

    @mudfly said:

    3) We have zero depth......(zero)....therefore, we did not "plan on it" (see #1)

    We have better OL depth than we've had in years. Its problem has been the depth has been injured and it has had to start.

    Our overall weakness is better attributed to the failure of two starters to emerge and/or stay healthy: Cam and Shon. I still have hope for one of them.

    @tour2ma said:

    Sometimes if I'd turn the page, it'd save me some typing...

    We have better OL depth than we've had in years. Its problem has been the depth has been injured and it has had to start.

    Our overall weakness is better attributed to the failure of two starters to emerge and/or stay healthy: Cam and Shon. I still have hope for one of them.

    I'ts good to have hope Tour, because with Greco out- Griffin won't last a game. Just MHO.

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @tour2ma said:

    Sometimes if I'd turn the page, it'd save me some typing...

    We have better OL depth than we've had in years. Its problem has been the depth has been injured and it has had to start.

    Our overall weakness is better attributed to the failure of two starters to emerge and/or stay healthy: Cam and Shon. I still have hope for one of them.

    I'ts good to have hope Tour, because with Greco out- Griffin won't last a game. Just MHO.

    @hoorta said:

    I'ts good to have hope Tour, because with Greco out- Griffin won't last a game. Just MHO.

    There is a way, h... I promise...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @hoorta said:

    I'ts good to have hope Tour, because with Greco out- Griffin won't last a game. Just MHO.

    There is a way, h... I promise...

    @tour2ma said:

    There is a way, h... I promise...

    Zombo put the over\under on R Glass' survival at 3 quarters. "I approve of this message." But you never know- I'm tempted to take the over. And really- how sad is that?

  • Bob806B Bob806

    @baconhound said:

    If we think Joel Bitonio is the answer go back and watch the early tape from this year.

    Well our running game was fine the first 4 or 5 weeks before he went down. The running game has been horrid since.

    @bob806 said:

    Well our running game was fine the first 4 or 5 weeks before he went down. The running game has been horrid since.

    Rush defenses we face weeks 1-5, 16th, 1st, 30th, 25th, 13th. With the exception of Baltimore no one else cracked the top 12.

  • ... and we helped do that to them.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Z Zombo

    @texasag1969 said:

    So no tavern today?

    It needs to be reset sometimes. One of us just needs to to text Stan. PM me or one of the other mods if we forget to check it on a gameday.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    It needs to be reset sometimes. One of us just needs to to text Stan. PM me or one of the other mods if we forget to check it on a gameday.

    Z

    ^^^Hello Hello Hello..Is their anybody out there? Theirs not if you can't here me..Is their anyone at Home? RELAX RELAX RELAX

    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends

  • ...... I need some information, first..... just the basic facts, can you show me where it hurts?

  • D BoneD D Bone

    ...... I need some information, first..... just the basic facts, can you show me where it hurts?

    @d-bone said:

    ...... I need some information, first..... just the basic facts, can you show me where it hurts?

    RESET TAVERN!! IT's GAMEDAY!!! Text a guy name Stan...surley, He'll be the guy chasing 2 trailer park girls, round the outside, round the outside... 😛 (or was that Jeremy Hill)

    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends

  • Well at least I saw a great game yesterday in person. My son coaches for a middle school in Temple Texas and works with the high school coaches to scout and then up in the press box for games to give input on the high school games. They have now beaten two heavily favored undefeated teams in a row to go next week to the state championship for class 5 1A at Jerryworld where they beat the top team last week. This was a back and forth game in which Temple had scored it's last two touchdowns on 4th down plays and it's last two possessions were stopped on 4th downs just yards from FG range. With time running out the other team drove down for this last play with 10 seconds remaining and no time outs. One of the best games I have ever seen on any level in my lifetime. That other team had been averaging 56-14 over the course of the playoffs (5 games). Temple won it 31-24.

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