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  • Josh Gordon. That combination of spectacular talent and stunning stupidity could never, ever be matched in the NFL.

    @hish747 said:

    Josh Gordon. That combination of spectacular talent and stunning stupidity could never, ever be matched in the NFL.

    darren sharper would tell you different.

  • Josh Gordon. That combination of spectacular talent and stunning stupidity could never, ever be matched in the NFL.

    @hish747 said:

    Josh Gordon. That combination of spectacular talent and stunning stupidity could never, ever be matched in the NFL.

    Ricky Williams-rest my case.

  • I thought of Blackmon... but as I said above, it only takes one additional one.

  • Thought this musing from PoeG was worth a thread...

    @poeticg said:

    The more I think about it...

    Is... any... player a once in a lifetime player?

    The obvious, first-to-mind 'round these parts has to be JB... at least for those of us at a certain age. But there's also been a Campbell or a Bo Jackson.

    For every Montana there's been a Manning...

    Every Rice there's been a Megatron...

    Every Biletnikoff... a Largent.

    Every Mackey... a Gronk... or a Casper.

    Every Munoz... a Pace... or a Thomas...

    While there may not have existed an absolute equal, one or two alternates might be equal enough that the original, the GOAT, cannot be seen as unique.

    As Bum once said of Earl... "He may not be in a class by himself, but it doesn't take long to call the role."

    As close as I have come has been Barry Sanders... but then there's Sweetness.

    @tour2ma said:

    Thought this musing from PoeG was worth a thread...

    The obvious, first-to-mind 'round these parts has to be JB... at least for those of us at a certain age. But there's also been a Campbell or a Bo Jackson.

    For every Montana there's been a Manning...

    Every Rice there's been a Megatron...

    Every Biletnikoff... a Largent.

    Every Mackey... a Gronk... or a Casper.

    Every Munoz... a Pace... or a Thomas...

    While there may not have existed an absolute equal, one or two alternates might be equal enough that the original, the GOAT, cannot be seen as unique.

    As Bum once said of Earl... "He may not be in a class by himself, but it doesn't take long to call the role."

    As close as I have come has been Barry Sanders... but then there's Sweetness.

    Cy Young 511 career victories? One in many lifetimes?

  • Scott Player was once in a lifetime, I don't think we'll see the likes of him again:

    browns_raiders_08.jpg

    As far a truly unique skill set and talent, I think of Sanders and also Gayle Sayers, Bo Jackson, Dieon Sanders. I think a lot of people compare young QBs to Bret Favre but no one really has all of the things Favre brought to the table. I'm not sure Lawrence Taylor has been duplicated either. Peyton Manning kinda stands apart as the best pure "field general" in my opinion. And I don't think anyone was ever as better than their peers than Jim Brown.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Scott Player was once in a lifetime, I don't think we'll see the likes of him again:

    browns_raiders_08.jpg

    As far a truly unique skill set and talent, I think of Sanders and also Gayle Sayers, Bo Jackson, Dieon Sanders. I think a lot of people compare young QBs to Bret Favre but no one really has all of the things Favre brought to the table. I'm not sure Lawrence Taylor has been duplicated either. Peyton Manning kinda stands apart as the best pure "field general" in my opinion. And I don't think anyone was ever as better than their peers than Jim Brown.

    Zombo

    Otto Graham. Lead team to 10 title game appearances in 10 years. No one has ever touched that.

  • @hish747 said:

    Josh Gordon. That combination of spectacular talent and stunning stupidity could never, ever be matched in the NFL.

    Ricky Williams-rest my case.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Ricky Williams-rest my case.

    As weird as he was....he at least had a decent NFL career

  • @hish747 said:

    Josh Gordon. That combination of spectacular talent and stunning stupidity could never, ever be matched in the NFL.

    Ricky Williams-rest my case.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Ricky Williams-rest my case.

    c'mon now ricky put together a few nice years and at least he was open about smoking,flash on the other hand is a complete dumbass and haslem should have listened to Lombardi about trading him.in fact I will take this one step further banner and Lombardi should never had been fired,jimmy truck stop is gonna fuck are team until there is nothing left

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    @texasag1969 said:

    Ricky Williams-rest my case.

    c'mon now ricky put together a few nice years and at least he was open about smoking,flash on the other hand is a complete dumbass and haslem should have listened to Lombardi about trading him.in fact I will take this one step further banner and Lombardi should never had been fired,jimmy truck stop is gonna fuck are team until there is nothing left

    @syd said:

    c'mon now ricky put together a few nice years and at least he was open about smoking,flash on the other hand is a complete dumbass and haslem should have listened to Lombardi about trading him.in fact I will take this one step further banner and Lombardi should never had been fired,jimmy truck stop is gonna fuck are team until there is nothing left

    I think many of you have forgotten how troubled his career was with multiple failed drug tests, suspensions, retirement, return and more of the same.

    Read it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Williams

  • With the exception of Bo, Ricky was the best college back I'd seen since The Tyler Rose...

    I guess that means Ricky was my best since Bo?

  • Gotta climb on board with Zombos mention of LT......to me, he was the one and only......lots of imitators, but never one as dominant...

    @mudfly said:

    Gotta climb on board with Zombos mention of LT......to me, he was the one and only......lots of imitators, but never one as dominant...

    KCs Dereck Thomas was on his way.....!

  • Weeden had to be one of a kind. I mean a 28 year old picked in the first round doesn't happen often. Weinke is the only other that comes to mind but I don't think he was a first rounder.

  • With the exception of Bo, Ricky was the best college back I'd seen since The Tyler Rose...

    I guess that means Ricky was my best since Bo?

    @tour2ma said:

    With the exception of Bo, Ricky was the best college back I'd seen since The Tyler Rose...

    I guess that means Ricky was my best since Bo?

    Who's the best since Ricky? With the exception of Adrian.

  • With the exception of Bo, Ricky was the best college back I'd seen since The Tyler Rose...

    I guess that means Ricky was my best since Bo?

    @tour2ma said:

    With the exception of Bo, Ricky was the best college back I'd seen since The Tyler Rose...

    I guess that means Ricky was my best since Bo?

    Bo had the greatest top end 7th gear I have ever seen in person (1986 Cotton Bowl). He took a screen pass around Auburn's 20, cut laterally across the field at the 50 to turn the opposite corner around the DBs while running what I thought was full speed. But once he got around the last DB and cut upfield he really turned on the jets and crossed the goal line in what seemed to be about 3 seconds later and 15 yards ahead of the nearest defender. I was in the endzone seats when he accelerated towards us and it was like watching a rocket take off when he put it in top gear. Never seen anything like it before or since.

  • Weeden had to be one of a kind. I mean a 28 year old picked in the first round doesn't happen often. Weinke is the only other that comes to mind but I don't think he was a first rounder.

    @taco918 said:

    Weeden had to be one of a kind. I mean a 28 year old picked in the first round doesn't happen often. Weinke is the only other that comes to mind but I don't think he was a first rounder.

    lol... Well no one specified that they had to be great lifetimes... plus there's the whole clay pigeons thing.

    @wargograw said:

    Who's the best since Ricky? With the exception of Adrian.

    Good question... at the college level my first thought would be the pre-injury Fournette of 2014/2015. Showed that same speed/power combo Earl, Bo and Ricky featured. But that leaves a fairly sizeable gap that someone eluding me surely filled. Jamal Lewis has to at least get an Honorable Mention.

    AP is an interesting case... stellar first year that, much like Fournette, injuries kept him from repeating. I actually thought he was too risky to draft. Clearly the Vikes made a better call than me, but feels like they are now holding on too long.

  • Reggie Bush at collegel level?

  • I think it depends on what you classify as a "lifetime". If you're talking about the span of the whole lifetime of a sport, then no there isn't. But if you're talking about the the major eras of sports, then yes there are definitely those types of players.

    If you are referring to the lifetime as the whole of the sport though the only player that really can hold that mantle is Wayne Gretzky. The amount of untouchable records that dude has is insane, and it's about as well known as it gets that no one has ever been as good of a player as that dude.

  • The Great One... you bet.

    I'd add Ali to the non-football list. In his prime... nothing like him.

  • There is always Johnny...

    WSS

  • There is always Johnny...

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    There is always Johnny...

    WSS

    Johnny Evans? Punter/QB and could spin the ball on his nose?

  • @mudfly said:

    Gotta climb on board with Zombos mention of LT......to me, he was the one and only......lots of imitators, but never one as dominant...

    KCs Dereck Thomas was on his way.....!

    @brownsnmopar said:

    KCs Dereck Thomas was on his way.....!

    I was just going to post something about Thomas.

    In my 49 years of watching the NFL, I've never seen any defensive player get off the snap quicker than Derrick Thomas.

    LT was the best LB off the edge, but he wasn't as quick as Thomas.

    Too bad he died so young.