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  • T TexasAg1969

    @hish747 said:

    Josh Gordon. That combination of spectacular talent and stunning stupidity could never, ever be matched in the NFL.

    Ricky Williams-rest my case.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Ricky Williams-rest my case.

    c'mon now ricky put together a few nice years and at least he was open about smoking,flash on the other hand is a complete dumbass and haslem should have listened to Lombardi about trading him.in fact I will take this one step further banner and Lombardi should never had been fired,jimmy truck stop is gonna fuck are team until there is nothing left

  • sydS syd

    @texasag1969 said:

    Ricky Williams-rest my case.

    c'mon now ricky put together a few nice years and at least he was open about smoking,flash on the other hand is a complete dumbass and haslem should have listened to Lombardi about trading him.in fact I will take this one step further banner and Lombardi should never had been fired,jimmy truck stop is gonna fuck are team until there is nothing left

    @syd said:

    c'mon now ricky put together a few nice years and at least he was open about smoking,flash on the other hand is a complete dumbass and haslem should have listened to Lombardi about trading him.in fact I will take this one step further banner and Lombardi should never had been fired,jimmy truck stop is gonna fuck are team until there is nothing left

    I think many of you have forgotten how troubled his career was with multiple failed drug tests, suspensions, retirement, return and more of the same.

    Read it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Williams

  • With the exception of Bo, Ricky was the best college back I'd seen since The Tyler Rose...

    I guess that means Ricky was my best since Bo?

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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Gotta climb on board with Zombos mention of LT......to me, he was the one and only......lots of imitators, but never one as dominant...

    @mudfly said:

    Gotta climb on board with Zombos mention of LT......to me, he was the one and only......lots of imitators, but never one as dominant...

    KCs Dereck Thomas was on his way.....!

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  • Weeden had to be one of a kind. I mean a 28 year old picked in the first round doesn't happen often. Weinke is the only other that comes to mind but I don't think he was a first rounder.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    With the exception of Bo, Ricky was the best college back I'd seen since The Tyler Rose...

    I guess that means Ricky was my best since Bo?

    @tour2ma said:

    With the exception of Bo, Ricky was the best college back I'd seen since The Tyler Rose...

    I guess that means Ricky was my best since Bo?

    Who's the best since Ricky? With the exception of Adrian.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    With the exception of Bo, Ricky was the best college back I'd seen since The Tyler Rose...

    I guess that means Ricky was my best since Bo?

    @tour2ma said:

    With the exception of Bo, Ricky was the best college back I'd seen since The Tyler Rose...

    I guess that means Ricky was my best since Bo?

    Bo had the greatest top end 7th gear I have ever seen in person (1986 Cotton Bowl). He took a screen pass around Auburn's 20, cut laterally across the field at the 50 to turn the opposite corner around the DBs while running what I thought was full speed. But once he got around the last DB and cut upfield he really turned on the jets and crossed the goal line in what seemed to be about 3 seconds later and 15 yards ahead of the nearest defender. I was in the endzone seats when he accelerated towards us and it was like watching a rocket take off when he put it in top gear. Never seen anything like it before or since.

  • T Taco918

    Weeden had to be one of a kind. I mean a 28 year old picked in the first round doesn't happen often. Weinke is the only other that comes to mind but I don't think he was a first rounder.

    @taco918 said:

    Weeden had to be one of a kind. I mean a 28 year old picked in the first round doesn't happen often. Weinke is the only other that comes to mind but I don't think he was a first rounder.

    lol... Well no one specified that they had to be great lifetimes... plus there's the whole clay pigeons thing.

    @wargograw said:

    Who's the best since Ricky? With the exception of Adrian.

    Good question... at the college level my first thought would be the pre-injury Fournette of 2014/2015. Showed that same speed/power combo Earl, Bo and Ricky featured. But that leaves a fairly sizeable gap that someone eluding me surely filled. Jamal Lewis has to at least get an Honorable Mention.

    AP is an interesting case... stellar first year that, much like Fournette, injuries kept him from repeating. I actually thought he was too risky to draft. Clearly the Vikes made a better call than me, but feels like they are now holding on too long.

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  • Reggie Bush at collegel level?

  • I think it depends on what you classify as a "lifetime". If you're talking about the span of the whole lifetime of a sport, then no there isn't. But if you're talking about the the major eras of sports, then yes there are definitely those types of players.

    If you are referring to the lifetime as the whole of the sport though the only player that really can hold that mantle is Wayne Gretzky. The amount of untouchable records that dude has is insane, and it's about as well known as it gets that no one has ever been as good of a player as that dude.

  • The Great One... you bet.

    I'd add Ali to the non-football list. In his prime... nothing like him.

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  • There is always Johnny...

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  • W Westside Steve

    There is always Johnny...

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    There is always Johnny...

    WSS

    Johnny Evans? Punter/QB and could spin the ball on his nose?

  • BrownsnMoparB BrownsnMopar

    @mudfly said:

    Gotta climb on board with Zombos mention of LT......to me, he was the one and only......lots of imitators, but never one as dominant...

    KCs Dereck Thomas was on his way.....!

    @brownsnmopar said:

    KCs Dereck Thomas was on his way.....!

    I was just going to post something about Thomas.

    In my 49 years of watching the NFL, I've never seen any defensive player get off the snap quicker than Derrick Thomas.

    LT was the best LB off the edge, but he wasn't as quick as Thomas.

    Too bad he died so young.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

    @brownsnmopar said:

    KCs Dereck Thomas was on his way.....!

    I was just going to post something about Thomas.

    In my 49 years of watching the NFL, I've never seen any defensive player get off the snap quicker than Derrick Thomas.

    LT was the best LB off the edge, but he wasn't as quick as Thomas.

    Too bad he died so young.

    @canton-dawg said:

    I was just going to post something about Thomas.

    In my 49 years of watching the NFL, I've never seen any defensive player get off the snap quicker than Derrick Thomas.

    LT was the best LB off the edge, but he wasn't as quick as Thomas.

    Too bad he died so young.

    And that is the reason Von wears #58, his hero was Derrick Thomas. He patterned his own game in a similar way to emulate Thomas.

  • T TexasAg1969

    @canton-dawg said:

    I was just going to post something about Thomas.

    In my 49 years of watching the NFL, I've never seen any defensive player get off the snap quicker than Derrick Thomas.

    LT was the best LB off the edge, but he wasn't as quick as Thomas.

    Too bad he died so young.

    And that is the reason Von wears #58, his hero was Derrick Thomas. He patterned his own game in a similar way to emulate Thomas.

    @texasag1969 said:

    And that is the reason Von wears #58, his hero was Derrick Thomas. He patterned his own game in a similar way to emulate Thomas.

    I wasn't aware of that AG, I now have a bit more respect for Miller.

    Too bad he doesn't play for my Browns.

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  • BrownsnMoparB BrownsnMopar

    @mudfly said:

    Gotta climb on board with Zombos mention of LT......to me, he was the one and only......lots of imitators, but never one as dominant...

    KCs Dereck Thomas was on his way.....!

    @brownsnmopar said:

    KCs Dereck Thomas was on his way.....!

    yes he was.....an amazing player who's career(and life) ended too soon.....

  • Another on that unfortunate list... Sean Taylor.

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  • Jim Brown was the GOAT. Averaged 5.2 yards per rush when teams

    did not throw the ball all that much. For another I agree with Bill Belichick

    on this~~~ LT. Simply the best LB I have ever seen.

  • D darubes

    Jim Brown was the GOAT. Averaged 5.2 yards per rush when teams

    did not throw the ball all that much. For another I agree with Bill Belichick

    on this~~~ LT. Simply the best LB I have ever seen.

    @darubes said:

    Jim Brown was the GOAT. Averaged 5.2 yards per rush when teams

    did not throw the ball all that much. For another I agree with Bill Belichick

    on this~~~ LT. Simply the best LB I have ever seen.

    I'm not trying to disagree, but I can also hear an argument that in the era of Jim Brown offenses were exclusively designed to run the ball unlike today. Conversely, I can easily say Tom Brady is the best QB I've ever seen play. But it's also objectively true that rules quite literally were made in his favor during his run unlike the greats of yesteryear.

    IDK, it's stuff like this that really muddies the waters for me especially in football in saying this guy or that guy was objectively the greatest.

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