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The Bradley Effect

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    U.S.

    I have no idea what's going on world-wide...it varies.

    Thanks for the clarification.

  • What are your thoughts, John? Do you agree?

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    Exactly.

    No other group near that size is as monolithic.

    Blacks make up 12% of the population. Next you're going to get on the Jews for voting for Lieberman. Well, bad example. icon_e_smile.gif

    Jews didn't vote for Lieberman in a bloc. So yes, bad example.

    No minority group votes that homogenetically.

    What does this have to do with the Bradley Effect, anyway? Were you just jonesing to use the word "Negro"?

    Think hard to what I said.

    There is no Bradley effect, only some innacurate polling IMO.

    It's a phony story repeated hourly to remind, uh, blacks, not to sleep in on election day.

    "You can't trust the caucasians!!"

    I said that before and YOU agreed calling it "politics 101."

    WSS

  • So, Steve, you think there's no such thing as subconscious/unconscious racism or conscious embarrassment over one's racism? It's all made up?

    This phenomenon exists with many other feelings...why should racism be excluded.

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    What are your thoughts, John? Do you agree?

    I don't disagree but I probably see a time line longer than you do. You did say generations, if I remember correctly, so we might be on the same page.

    Right now, there are plenty of Black Racists and White Racists and Yellow Racists to go around.

    If you were talking about internationally, I would strongly disagree.

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    What are your thoughts, John? Do you agree?

    I don't disagree but I probably see a time line longer than you do. You did say generations, if I remember correctly, so we might be on the same page.

    Right now, there are plenty of Black Racists and White Racists and Yellow Racists to go around.

    We're on the same page. Baby steps. I think we've come a very long way as a society since the 1950's, but there is still a tremendous amount of work to do. This election is just another of the steps...these things do take time.

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    If you were talking about internationally, I would strongly disagree.

    Same here.

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    So, Steve, you think there's no such thing as subconscious/unconscious racism or conscious embarrassment over one's racism? It's all made up?

    Not entirely made up but used improperly in that instance.

    It just doesn't ring true that someone who hates negroes so badly he'd refuse to vote for one even though they share ideology would feel ashamed to tell a pollster he voted for the other guy.

    (The most racist guy I know is your typical blue collar union Democrat and he voted for [Obama].)

    Exit polls have been notoriously innacurate.

    I say these guys just f*cked up.

    WSS

    This phenomenon exists with many other feelings...why should racism be excluded.

  • I disagree...I believe some people are extremely embarrassed re: how they feel about things.

    But OK.

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    I disagree...I believe some people are extremely embarrassed re: how they feel about things.

    But OK.

    I'm embarassed that for the magnificent chapter that was written in the civil rights movement yesterday, the only thing I can focus on is the silly, insignificant P. Diddy quote, (paraphrasing, after he voted) "I feel like Dr. Martin Luther King right now."

    Do you really? icon_rolleyes.gif

    (If you're wondering what that noise is, it's the corpse of Dr. Martin Luther King head-butting the inside of his casket)

    Honestly, I hope that President-elect Obama's presidency does more to heal race relations than his campaign (and the media circus) chose to.

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    he silly, insignificant P. Diddy quote, (paraphrasing, after he voted) "I feel like Dr. Martin Luther King right now."

    Do you really? icon_rolleyes.gif

    Dammit, I wish I had heard this before I voted; I would have told the exit-pollers that I felt like P. Diddy right now.

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    \ said:

    he silly, insignificant P. Diddy quote, (paraphrasing, after he voted) "I feel like Dr. Martin Luther King right now."

    Do you really? icon_rolleyes.gif

    Dammit, I wish I had heard this before I voted; I would have told the exit-pollers that I felt like P. Diddy right now.

    LOL.

    I'm just glad it's over and I don't feel like David Duke anymore for not voting for the guy... icon_e_wink.gif