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  • @shepwrite said:

    Mangini really wanted Ratliff. He thinks the kid has a chance to be a very good quarterback in this league. I have to think he meant as a backup, not a third stringer. My gut says Anderson still gets moved.

    Just read today that Mangini won't name a starter "before training camp." That's interesting wording.

    These guys are totally trying to avoid all the nonsense from the media by putting an end to all the QB talk now. Not a bad plan really. Hell, I even get sick of hearing about it.

    Much as Phillip put an end to it by signing DA and naming him the starter these guys are just flat refusing to address it.

  • I haven't posted since last summer but I guess the QB debate is still the main topic on this board...WOW These two players have really polarized the Browns nation

    For what it's worth, I really could care less who starts for my Browns and yes, I'd like to see what we spent a 1st and 2nd on in the draft...Keep in mind the one piece of the puzzle that Savage couldn't find in Baltimore was the QB position...Is that position his achilles tendon.....

    My most major complaint with Romeo last year is that he did not play Quinn early... Anderson was coming off a concussion and clearly played with cobwebs in his head all season... He never really recovered and couldn't process all the information fast enough... When he did, Edwards dropped the ball... Edwards sucked the air out our team last year...We should have learned about Quinn last year PERIOD.....

    Anderson is this era's Testeverde, that arm is something special... Be it Quinn or Anderson I'll bet Mangini plays the one who is gonna allow him to keep his job the longest...Neither are his boys and if Quinns not the one he may borrow a line from his mentor and claim something about diminishing skills.... Lightning may strike twice... The difference is, Mangini is not a rookie coach (Palmer, Davis and Romeo were all rookies), He's learned to do what he has to do to keep his job---at that my friends is to win ballgames......

    T. Dawg

  • @shepwrite said:

    It's not that I don't get that point of view, Dennis. I do. But we're talking about a 24 year old QB in a new offense. He'd benefit from every rep. It's basically what they did with Anderson last year: Say that Quinn is the starter until he isn't. He'll start the opener and that's the only guarantee.

    But splitting reps and preseason quarters... I'm not fan of it when you're dealing with youngsters.

    Oops, my thanks to this post was accidental.

    I'm trying to figure out this post.... are you saying they gave DA the job and didn't have him splitting reps, or are you saying they screwed DA by naming him the QB and not giving him reps in preseason. Remember, he only had the ball 3 drives or so all preseason.

  • I would be happy with Tim Couch being the QB next year if he had a 100 QB rating. I don't care who wins the competition but I believe it will be a fair competition. I also believe that Mangini will play the QB who gives him the best chance to win. The best thing that can happen is that one QB clearly steps up and plays better than the other ones during camp and the preseason.

    There are too many QBs to have a coin flip, this would require a rock/paper/scissors competition

    @dawgtracker said:

    I would be happy with Tim Couch being the QB next year if he had a 100 QB rating. I don't care who wins the competition but I believe it will be a fair competition. I also believe that Mangini will play the QB who gives him the best chance to win. The best thing that can happen is that one QB clearly steps up and plays better than the other ones during camp and the preseason.

    There are too many QBs to have a coin flip, this would require a rock/paper/scissors competition

    I agree.

    And the thing about this is the coach and GM really have no irions in the fire other than wanting the best player under center.

  • Does anybody really believe that, barring an injury, somebody other than Quinn will start opening day?

    Either you are living in a dream world or the Browns (i.e. Savage) is a complete idiot for drafting such an incompetent QB.

    Quinn starts.

    If not, this organization is screwed up BIG TIME.

    @chicopee-john said:

    Does anybody really believe that, barring an injury, somebody other than Quinn will start opening day?

    Either you are living in a dream world or the Browns (i.e. Savage) is a complete idiot for drafting such an incompetent QB.

    Quinn starts.

    If not, this organization is screwed up BIG TIME.

    If there wasn't any doubt then there wouldn't be most of the 35 posts in this thread begging for Quinn to be handed the job without competition.

    That's because we all know that in an open competition the 6'3" Quinn has little chance against the 6'6" Pro Bowler.

    We also know that Mangini isn't concerned with fan opinion. Hell, with training camp closed to fans, BQ Nation can't even go boo DA and chant BRAY-DEE.

    Quinn's only hope for starting in 2009 is for Randy Lerner to step in and force Mangini to do it.

    And without that starting nod, and with his 11 mil waving bye-bye, we all know Quinn will be looking for a trade so he can pick up his 70% reps.

  • @shepwrite said:

    But splitting reps and preseason quarters... I'm not fan of it when you're dealing with youngsters.

    unless it's Anderson's job. Then you bitch all summer long about wanting more split time.

  • @shepwrite said:

    But splitting reps and preseason quarters... I'm not fan of it when you're dealing with youngsters.

    unless it's Anderson's job. Then you bitch all summer long about wanting more split time.

    @lumbergh said:

    unless it's Anderson's job. Then you bitch all summer long about wanting more split time.

    If Quinn cannot beat out Anderson in his third year, he is a stiff and was a wasted draft pick. I believe he is neither.

    This is a Mangini (Belichick) ploy. Quinn starts. Bottom line.

  • @lumbergh said:

    unless it's Anderson's job. Then you bitch all summer long about wanting more split time.

    If Quinn cannot beat out Anderson in his third year, he is a stiff and was a wasted draft pick. I believe he is neither.

    This is a Mangini (Belichick) ploy. Quinn starts. Bottom line.

    @chicopee-john said:

    If Quinn cannot beat out Anderson in his third year, he is a stiff and was a wasted draft pick. I believe he is neither.

    the fact that you think he's awesome after three games of suck doesn't matter to the team or coaches deciding the QB.

  • Guys just chill, the ONLY (1) reason Quinn hasn't been named the starter is because he doesn't want to turn DA's value from a 6th rounder to NOTHING AT ALL.

  • @chicopee-john said:

    If Quinn cannot beat out Anderson in his third year, he is a stiff and was a wasted draft pick. I believe he is neither.

    the fact that you think he's awesome after three games of suck doesn't matter to the team or coaches deciding the QB.

    @lumbergh said:

    the fact that you think he's awesome after three games of suck doesn't matter to the team or coaches deciding the QB.

    Your an idiot! I hate you!

  • @chicopee-john said:

    If Quinn cannot beat out Anderson in his third year, he is a stiff and was a wasted draft pick. I believe he is neither.

    the fact that you think he's awesome after three games of suck doesn't matter to the team or coaches deciding the QB.

    @lumbergh said:

    it doesn't matter what you believe.

    What do you really beleive?

    Will DA be our starter? If not not is it a conspiracy? Are you a Browns fan? What makes you happy? Are you ever a positive person?

    Have you ever tortured small animals? Were you beaten up by the school bully? How short are you?

    What is your Deal?

  • Guys just chill, the ONLY (1) reason Quinn hasn't been named the starter is because he doesn't want to turn DA's value from a 6th rounder to NOTHING AT ALL.

    @pl4tinum said:

    Guys just chill, the ONLY (1) reason Quinn hasn't been named the starter is because he doesn't want to turn DA's value from a 6th rounder to NOTHING AT ALL.

    no, the real reason he hasn't been named starter is because he couldn't outplay Anderson last year.

  • @chicopee-john said:

    If Quinn cannot beat out Anderson in his third year, he is a stiff and was a wasted draft pick. I believe he is neither.

    the fact that you think he's awesome after three games of suck doesn't matter to the team or coaches deciding the QB.

    @lumbergh said:

    the fact that you think he's awesome after three games of suck doesn't matter to the team or coaches deciding the QB.

    Go back and read my posts RE: Quinn. I have been anything but a pumper.

    I am not saying he is great. I am saying that, in his third year, he better be better than Anderson.

  • @pl4tinum said:

    Guys just chill, the ONLY (1) reason Quinn hasn't been named the starter is because he doesn't want to turn DA's value from a 6th rounder to NOTHING AT ALL.

    no, the real reason he hasn't been named starter is because he couldn't outplay Anderson last year.

    @lumbergh said:

    no, the real reason he hasn't been named starter is because he couldn't outplay Anderson last year.

    wrong, try again...

  • @lumbergh said:

    the fact that you think he's awesome after three games of suck doesn't matter to the team or coaches deciding the QB.

    Your an idiot! I hate you!

    @roy.e.munson said:

    Your an idiot! I hate you!

    Now that's a great post. The GIF makes it.