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I lived in Japan off and on for over 8 years and had to get a SOFA (Status of Forces Agreement) Drivers license. Pass a written and drivers test. Japanese go through a very strict school and test to get their license. But afterwards seem to forget everything they learned. Very polite people until they get behind the wheel.
I lived in Japan off and on for over 8 years and had to get a SOFA (Status of Forces Agreement) Drivers license. Pass a written and drivers test. Japanese go through a very strict school and test to get their license. But afterwards seem to forget everything they learned. Very polite people until they get behind the wheel.
See I find that strange, Japan seems like the one place in Asia that would be decent to drive. Not sure why, they just seem to have more in common with western values, honour, respect etc for fellow citizens. Compared to china, for example...
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So I had a little look at pass rates for driving tests, and in OH, it seems like it's around 80%:
Contrast to the UK where it's apparently 43%. I think it's probably a bit harder to pass over here...
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American drivers aren't crazy they're just generally stupid, oblivious, and have zero awareness as to what's going on around them. The asshole level varies a little bit depending on what part of the country you're in, but the stupid level is pretty universal.
OK, call it stupid, works for me. But I find it bizarre, given that you have drivers ed courses at every school, right? Seems like everyone should have some common sense when it comes to driving. But nope. How stringent are the theory and practical tests?
OK, call it stupid, works for me. But I find it bizarre, given that you have drivers ed courses at every school, right? Seems like everyone should have some common sense when it comes to driving. But nope. How stringent are the theory and practical tests?
In Ohio I don't think driver's education is required unless you're under 18 or maybe 21 (you can get licensed at 16, and drive with a parent in the car at 15 1/2). Driver's ed carries a benefit of lower insurance rates.
Driver's ed courses is basically some old fuck rambling about boring shit like traffic laws and playing videos about people dying in fatal car crashes, then you go out driving a few times with an instructor - the whole purpose of the instructor is to prepare you to pass the actual driving test.
Then you do a vision, written (computer nowadays) test, and a driving test with some BMV dude.
It's all stupidly easy. You drive around the block with the BMV dude. Then you do a parallel parking test with like 5 traffic cones - except if you go to driver's ed they don't teach you how to actually maneuver the car - they literally teach you like - turn wheel half turn until you see this by the back pillar and then turn other way for X seconds.
Plus you know barely anybody anymore knows how to drive a manual transmission - they just coast along paying no attention to anything. Really a good amount of people here probably don't even know how to open their bonnet.
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I remember when I did mine I had a dude that had to have weighed almost 400 pounds in tiny ass ford I took my test in.
He said absolutely nothing the whole time but docked me points for doing things like using a turn signal 1 second too early.
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OK that sounds ridiculous. For us we have obviously the written test, and then the 'hazard perception' test - you sit in front of a touch screen by yourself, and maybe 15 video clips are played, 30 seconds to a minute, something like that. In each clip, there is a hazard - someone has just stepped between two cars, you saw them now they've disappeared, maybe they're going into the trunk of their car, maybe they're trying to cross the road. You have to press the screen when you think there's a hazard. In one clip there are two, so you have to pay attention to the whole thing. The earlier you press the more points you get, out of five.
For the actual driving test they ask you two questions along the lines of 'how would you check if your brake lights are working' or 'how do you check the oil levels in the car'. Legitimately, the one I got was 'how can you test the horn is working'. Less hard.
Then on to the actual driving, driving around town and country for about 40 minutes, including some maneuvers like bay park, parallel park, turn in the road, (hit the kerb on any and you fail instantly), stuff like that. You're allowed up to 15 'minors' - indicating too late for example is a minor, or not checking the mirror before turning. Not indicating at all is a fail.
Most people pass second time, some first, one guy I know took about 12 attempts. But generally you need to have 40-50 hours of lessons, then you also can go out driving with anyone who's already got a license, to get experience.
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I took my cdl test for a class a cdl in Springfield, Oh. It was pretty hard for some people which didn't pass. There were rumors that Ohio was tight on truck drivers passing their tests because the Governers daughter got killed in an accident involving a semi.
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No it was the way woody worded his comment. Tacking on an obligitory afterthought for the actual victims
No it was the way woody worded his comment. Tacking on an obligitory afterthought for the actual victims
That's not at all how it was worded.
If you take any more refined of a stance on these type of threads than "Muslims bad! Refugees bad!", You get called out for not caring about the victims. The immediate response is "oh, so you don't think it's worse for the victims?" No fuck it is. So I added that into avoid that response. Because we've gone down that path before...
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Good point. Lynch then all
Yes. That is what I said exactly.
Yes. That is what I said exactly.
No, you said we should hug them and ignore sexual assaults.
If you can live outside of reality and in hyperbole, why can't I?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Muslim truck drivers are the worst.
ftfy.
Holy shit are they crazy, at least the ones that come over from abroad. Maybe partly because in their countries driving insane is expected and the horn is the most important accessory on the vehicle.
Maybe not just muslims though, just arab drivers in general.
My lebanese godfather is a good example...and I rode in a car with some saudi friends before, last time I ever did that.
ftfy.
Holy shit are they crazy, at least the ones that come over from abroad. Maybe partly because in their countries driving insane is expected and the horn is the most important accessory on the vehicle.
Maybe not just muslims though, just arab drivers in general.
My lebanese godfather is a good example...and I rode in a car with some saudi friends before, last time I ever did that.
My roommate in school was from Ethiopia. Driving there was basically go for it if you can reach the pedals, and try not to hit anything..
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No it was the way woody worded his comment. Tacking on an obligitory afterthought for the actual victims
That's not at all how it was worded.
If you take any more refined of a stance on these type of threads than "Muslims bad! Refugees bad!", You get called out for not caring about the victims. The immediate response is "oh, so you don't think it's worse for the victims?" No fuck it is. So I added that into avoid that response. Because we've gone down that path before...
That's not at all how it was worded.
If you take any more refined of a stance on these type of threads than "Muslims bad! Refugees bad!", You get called out for not caring about the victims. The immediate response is "oh, so you don't think it's worse for the victims?" No fuck it is. So I added that into avoid that response. Because we've gone down that path before...
If the order in which you expressed those things were reversed it wouldn't sound tacked on. It's a nuance of the English language.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
OK, call it stupid, works for me. But I find it bizarre, given that you have drivers ed courses at every school, right? Seems like everyone should have some common sense when it comes to driving. But nope. How stringent are the theory and practical tests?
In Ohio I don't think driver's education is required unless you're under 18 or maybe 21 (you can get licensed at 16, and drive with a parent in the car at 15 1/2). Driver's ed carries a benefit of lower insurance rates.
Driver's ed courses is basically some old fuck rambling about boring shit like traffic laws and playing videos about people dying in fatal car crashes, then you go out driving a few times with an instructor - the whole purpose of the instructor is to prepare you to pass the actual driving test.
Then you do a vision, written (computer nowadays) test, and a driving test with some BMV dude.
It's all stupidly easy. You drive around the block with the BMV dude. Then you do a parallel parking test with like 5 traffic cones - except if you go to driver's ed they don't teach you how to actually maneuver the car - they literally teach you like - turn wheel half turn until you see this by the back pillar and then turn other way for X seconds.
Plus you know barely anybody anymore knows how to drive a manual transmission - they just coast along paying no attention to anything. Really a good amount of people here probably don't even know how to open their bonnet.
Yep. You only need drivers Ed if you want a license before 18 (after 16).And there's not much to it. The test is basically four right turns and maneuverability (no parallel parking for me).In Ohio I don't think driver's education is required unless you're under 18 or maybe 21 (you can get licensed at 16, and drive with a parent in the car at 15 1/2). Driver's ed carries a benefit of lower insurance rates.
Driver's ed courses is basically some old fuck rambling about boring shit like traffic laws and playing videos about people dying in fatal car crashes, then you go out driving a few times with an instructor - the whole purpose of the instructor is to prepare you to pass the actual driving test.
Then you do a vision, written (computer nowadays) test, and a driving test with some BMV dude.
It's all stupidly easy. You drive around the block with the BMV dude. Then you do a parallel parking test with like 5 traffic cones - except if you go to driver's ed they don't teach you how to actually maneuver the car - they literally teach you like - turn wheel half turn until you see this by the back pillar and then turn other way for X seconds.
Plus you know barely anybody anymore knows how to drive a manual transmission - they just coast along paying no attention to anything. Really a good amount of people here probably don't even know how to open their bonnet.
In Michigan it's a 45 minute test, they go on the highway, maneuverability, parallel parking, etc.
You're supposed to have a notarized form that you've had 40 hours behind the wheel with an adult, but everyone takes that. I had my 8hours in drivers Ed, and like 2 with my parents.
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That's not at all how it was worded.
If you take any more refined of a stance on these type of threads than "Muslims bad! Refugees bad!", You get called out for not caring about the victims. The immediate response is "oh, so you don't think it's worse for the victims?" No fuck it is. So I added that into avoid that response. Because we've gone down that path before...
If the order in which you expressed those things were reversed it wouldn't sound tacked on. It's a nuance of the English language.
If the order in which you expressed those things were reversed it wouldn't sound tacked on. It's a nuance of the English language.
It was a tacked on statement of me stating the obvious. Not to belittle the victims, but the other posters on here.
Which, btw, I don't think anyone else has shown any concern or sadness towards the victims. No one here seems to care about them..
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I lived in Japan off and on for over 8 years and had to get a SOFA (Status of Forces Agreement) Drivers license. Pass a written and drivers test. Japanese go through a very strict school and test to get their license. But afterwards seem to forget everything they learned. Very polite people until they get behind the wheel.
See I find that strange, Japan seems like the one place in Asia that would be decent to drive. Not sure why, they just seem to have more in common with western values, honour, respect etc for fellow citizens. Compared to china, for example...
See I find that strange, Japan seems like the one place in Asia that would be decent to drive. Not sure why, they just seem to have more in common with western values, honour, respect etc for fellow citizens. Compared to china, for example...
Believe me, it's true. They are better then say South Korea, PI, or Thailand. But seem as though manners are gone once behind the wheel for many. I still drive like I'm in Japan. I'm an offensive vice defensive driver.
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See I find that strange, Japan seems like the one place in Asia that would be decent to drive. Not sure why, they just seem to have more in common with western values, honour, respect etc for fellow citizens. Compared to china, for example...
Believe me, it's true. They are better then say South Korea, PI, or Thailand. But seem as though manners are gone once behind the wheel for many. I still drive like I'm in Japan. I'm an offensive vice defensive driver.
When DieHard puts on a turn signal he's not asking to turn he's telling you he's turning.Believe me, it's true. They are better then say South Korea, PI, or Thailand. But seem as though manners are gone once behind the wheel for many. I still drive like I'm in Japan. I'm an offensive vice defensive driver.
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Yes. That is what I said exactly.
No, you said we should hug them and ignore sexual assaults.
If you can live outside of reality and in hyperbole, why can't I?
No, you said we should hug them and ignore sexual assaults.
If you can live outside of reality and in hyperbole, why can't I?
Well, Euro government policies have been to try to hug them and ignore sexual assaults (ex: Cologne when the local gov attempted to hide it then later tried to keep the descriptions of the perps a secret). I don't make this shit up. So it is based in reality. A very shitty reality for women having to live near immigrants who don't understand that raping people is a no no.
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No, you said we should hug them and ignore sexual assaults.
If you can live outside of reality and in hyperbole, why can't I?
Well, Euro government policies have been to try to hug them and ignore sexual assaults (ex: Cologne when the local gov attempted to hide it then later tried to keep the descriptions of the perps a secret). I don't make this shit up. So it is based in reality. A very shitty reality for women having to live near immigrants who don't understand that raping people is a no no.
who don't understand that raping people is a no no.
wait, wut? it is? aww man wut kind of shit is this now?
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If the order in which you expressed those things were reversed it wouldn't sound tacked on. It's a nuance of the English language.
It was a tacked on statement of me stating the obvious. Not to belittle the victims, but the other posters on here.
Which, btw, I don't think anyone else has shown any concern or sadness towards the victims. No one here seems to care about them..
It was a tacked on statement of me stating the obvious. Not to belittle the victims, but the other posters on here.
Which, btw, I don't think anyone else has shown any concern or sadness towards the victims. No one here seems to care about them..
Well you've got a point there. I haven't expressed any remorse over the victims. I suppose it's just because I'm numb to it now. When you've seen the kind of shit that's out there I guess nothing's shocking anymore. But at least I don't fake it.
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Only Newtown has ever rattled me.That's easily the worst thing that's happened in my lifetime. Yes, worse, in my opinion, than 9/11. Nothing else really has any power to faze me.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Only Newtown has ever rattled me.That's easily the worst thing that's happened in my lifetime. Yes, worse, in my opinion, than 9/11. Nothing else really has any power to faze me.
Only Newtown has ever rattled me.That's easily the worst thing that's happened in my lifetime. Yes, worse, in my opinion, than 9/11. Nothing else really has any power to faze me.
I was never into conspiracy theories but there's so many things about Sandy Hook that still bother the living shit out of me.
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It should bother the shit out of you but not because it was fake. What would be the point of faking something like that? No meaningful gun control measures came from it or any mass shooting before or after it.
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