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  • @mld-woody said:

    Good point. Lynch then all

    Yes. That is what I said exactly.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Yes. That is what I said exactly.

    No, you said we should hug them and ignore sexual assaults.

    If you can live outside of reality and in hyperbole, why can't I?

  • @one-post said:

    Muslim truck drivers are the worst.

    ftfy.

    Holy shit are they crazy, at least the ones that come over from abroad. Maybe partly because in their countries driving insane is expected and the horn is the most important accessory on the vehicle.

    Maybe not just muslims though, just arab drivers in general.

    My lebanese godfather is a good example...and I rode in a car with some saudi friends before, last time I ever did that.

    @bbedward said:

    ftfy.

    Holy shit are they crazy, at least the ones that come over from abroad. Maybe partly because in their countries driving insane is expected and the horn is the most important accessory on the vehicle.

    Maybe not just muslims though, just arab drivers in general.

    My lebanese godfather is a good example...and I rode in a car with some saudi friends before, last time I ever did that.

    My roommate in school was from Ethiopia. Driving there was basically go for it if you can reach the pedals, and try not to hit anything..

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    No it was the way woody worded his comment. Tacking on an obligitory afterthought for the actual victims

    That's not at all how it was worded.

    If you take any more refined of a stance on these type of threads than "Muslims bad! Refugees bad!", You get called out for not caring about the victims. The immediate response is "oh, so you don't think it's worse for the victims?" No fuck it is. So I added that into avoid that response. Because we've gone down that path before...

    @mld-woody said:

    That's not at all how it was worded.

    If you take any more refined of a stance on these type of threads than "Muslims bad! Refugees bad!", You get called out for not caring about the victims. The immediate response is "oh, so you don't think it's worse for the victims?" No fuck it is. So I added that into avoid that response. Because we've gone down that path before...

    If the order in which you expressed those things were reversed it wouldn't sound tacked on. It's a nuance of the English language.

  • @gftchris said:

    OK, call it stupid, works for me. But I find it bizarre, given that you have drivers ed courses at every school, right? Seems like everyone should have some common sense when it comes to driving. But nope. How stringent are the theory and practical tests?

    In Ohio I don't think driver's education is required unless you're under 18 or maybe 21 (you can get licensed at 16, and drive with a parent in the car at 15 1/2). Driver's ed carries a benefit of lower insurance rates.

    Driver's ed courses is basically some old fuck rambling about boring shit like traffic laws and playing videos about people dying in fatal car crashes, then you go out driving a few times with an instructor - the whole purpose of the instructor is to prepare you to pass the actual driving test.

    Then you do a vision, written (computer nowadays) test, and a driving test with some BMV dude.

    It's all stupidly easy. You drive around the block with the BMV dude. Then you do a parallel parking test with like 5 traffic cones - except if you go to driver's ed they don't teach you how to actually maneuver the car - they literally teach you like - turn wheel half turn until you see this by the back pillar and then turn other way for X seconds.

    Plus you know barely anybody anymore knows how to drive a manual transmission - they just coast along paying no attention to anything. Really a good amount of people here probably don't even know how to open their bonnet.

    @bbedward said:

    In Ohio I don't think driver's education is required unless you're under 18 or maybe 21 (you can get licensed at 16, and drive with a parent in the car at 15 1/2). Driver's ed carries a benefit of lower insurance rates.

    Driver's ed courses is basically some old fuck rambling about boring shit like traffic laws and playing videos about people dying in fatal car crashes, then you go out driving a few times with an instructor - the whole purpose of the instructor is to prepare you to pass the actual driving test.

    Then you do a vision, written (computer nowadays) test, and a driving test with some BMV dude.

    It's all stupidly easy. You drive around the block with the BMV dude. Then you do a parallel parking test with like 5 traffic cones - except if you go to driver's ed they don't teach you how to actually maneuver the car - they literally teach you like - turn wheel half turn until you see this by the back pillar and then turn other way for X seconds.

    Plus you know barely anybody anymore knows how to drive a manual transmission - they just coast along paying no attention to anything. Really a good amount of people here probably don't even know how to open their bonnet.

    Yep. You only need drivers Ed if you want a license before 18 (after 16).And there's not much to it. The test is basically four right turns and maneuverability (no parallel parking for me).

    In Michigan it's a 45 minute test, they go on the highway, maneuverability, parallel parking, etc.

    You're supposed to have a notarized form that you've had 40 hours behind the wheel with an adult, but everyone takes that. I had my 8hours in drivers Ed, and like 2 with my parents.

  • @mld-woody said:

    That's not at all how it was worded.

    If you take any more refined of a stance on these type of threads than "Muslims bad! Refugees bad!", You get called out for not caring about the victims. The immediate response is "oh, so you don't think it's worse for the victims?" No fuck it is. So I added that into avoid that response. Because we've gone down that path before...

    If the order in which you expressed those things were reversed it wouldn't sound tacked on. It's a nuance of the English language.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    If the order in which you expressed those things were reversed it wouldn't sound tacked on. It's a nuance of the English language.

    It was a tacked on statement of me stating the obvious. Not to belittle the victims, but the other posters on here.

    Which, btw, I don't think anyone else has shown any concern or sadness towards the victims. No one here seems to care about them..

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I lived in Japan off and on for over 8 years and had to get a SOFA (Status of Forces Agreement) Drivers license. Pass a written and drivers test. Japanese go through a very strict school and test to get their license. But afterwards seem to forget everything they learned. Very polite people until they get behind the wheel.

    See I find that strange, Japan seems like the one place in Asia that would be decent to drive. Not sure why, they just seem to have more in common with western values, honour, respect etc for fellow citizens. Compared to china, for example...

    @gftchris said:

    See I find that strange, Japan seems like the one place in Asia that would be decent to drive. Not sure why, they just seem to have more in common with western values, honour, respect etc for fellow citizens. Compared to china, for example...

    Believe me, it's true. They are better then say South Korea, PI, or Thailand. But seem as though manners are gone once behind the wheel for many. I still drive like I'm in Japan. I'm an offensive vice defensive driver.

  • @gftchris said:

    See I find that strange, Japan seems like the one place in Asia that would be decent to drive. Not sure why, they just seem to have more in common with western values, honour, respect etc for fellow citizens. Compared to china, for example...

    Believe me, it's true. They are better then say South Korea, PI, or Thailand. But seem as though manners are gone once behind the wheel for many. I still drive like I'm in Japan. I'm an offensive vice defensive driver.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Believe me, it's true. They are better then say South Korea, PI, or Thailand. But seem as though manners are gone once behind the wheel for many. I still drive like I'm in Japan. I'm an offensive vice defensive driver.

    When DieHard puts on a turn signal he's not asking to turn he's telling you he's turning.
  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Yes. That is what I said exactly.

    No, you said we should hug them and ignore sexual assaults.

    If you can live outside of reality and in hyperbole, why can't I?

    @mld-woody said:

    No, you said we should hug them and ignore sexual assaults.

    If you can live outside of reality and in hyperbole, why can't I?

    Well, Euro government policies have been to try to hug them and ignore sexual assaults (ex: Cologne when the local gov attempted to hide it then later tried to keep the descriptions of the perps a secret). I don't make this shit up. So it is based in reality. A very shitty reality for women having to live near immigrants who don't understand that raping people is a no no.

  • @mld-woody said:

    No, you said we should hug them and ignore sexual assaults.

    If you can live outside of reality and in hyperbole, why can't I?

    Well, Euro government policies have been to try to hug them and ignore sexual assaults (ex: Cologne when the local gov attempted to hide it then later tried to keep the descriptions of the perps a secret). I don't make this shit up. So it is based in reality. A very shitty reality for women having to live near immigrants who don't understand that raping people is a no no.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    who don't understand that raping people is a no no.

    wait, wut? it is? aww man wut kind of shit is this now?

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    If the order in which you expressed those things were reversed it wouldn't sound tacked on. It's a nuance of the English language.

    It was a tacked on statement of me stating the obvious. Not to belittle the victims, but the other posters on here.

    Which, btw, I don't think anyone else has shown any concern or sadness towards the victims. No one here seems to care about them..

    @mld-woody said:

    It was a tacked on statement of me stating the obvious. Not to belittle the victims, but the other posters on here.

    Which, btw, I don't think anyone else has shown any concern or sadness towards the victims. No one here seems to care about them..

    Well you've got a point there. I haven't expressed any remorse over the victims. I suppose it's just because I'm numb to it now. When you've seen the kind of shit that's out there I guess nothing's shocking anymore. But at least I don't fake it.

  • Only Newtown has ever rattled me.That's easily the worst thing that's happened in my lifetime. Yes, worse, in my opinion, than 9/11. Nothing else really has any power to faze me.

  • Only Newtown has ever rattled me.That's easily the worst thing that's happened in my lifetime. Yes, worse, in my opinion, than 9/11. Nothing else really has any power to faze me.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Only Newtown has ever rattled me.That's easily the worst thing that's happened in my lifetime. Yes, worse, in my opinion, than 9/11. Nothing else really has any power to faze me.

    I was never into conspiracy theories but there's so many things about Sandy Hook that still bother the living shit out of me.

  • It should bother the shit out of you but not because it was fake. What would be the point of faking something like that? No meaningful gun control measures came from it or any mass shooting before or after it.

  • It should bother the shit out of you but not because it was fake. What would be the point of faking something like that? No meaningful gun control measures came from it or any mass shooting before or after it.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    It should bother the shit out of you but not because it was fake. What would be the point of faking something like that? No meaningful gun control measures came from it or any mass shooting before or after it.

    Gun Sales.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Only Newtown has ever rattled me.That's easily the worst thing that's happened in my lifetime. Yes, worse, in my opinion, than 9/11. Nothing else really has any power to faze me.

    I was never into conspiracy theories but there's so many things about Sandy Hook that still bother the living shit out of me.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I was never into conspiracy theories but there's so many things about Sandy Hook that still bother the living shit out of me.

    like what?

  • Only Newtown has ever rattled me.That's easily the worst thing that's happened in my lifetime. Yes, worse, in my opinion, than 9/11. Nothing else really has any power to faze me.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Only Newtown has ever rattled me.That's easily the worst thing that's happened in my lifetime. Yes, worse, in my opinion, than 9/11. Nothing else really has any power to faze me.

    This stuff fazes me every time it's in Europe, because it could, and does, happen in London as well. We're as big of a target as is likely to exist in Europe (obviously USA is number one, so there's something you win at), and I live and work in central London. I have friends who live across Europe and every time something like this happens, in Berlin, Paris, Nice, or wherever, the first thing I'm doing is usually checking to see that they're alright. Same as in 2005 in London the first thing I did was check my brother was ok.

    So yeah, it still fazes me somewhat. On the flip side, another mass shooting in the US doesn't faze me any more, so I guess it's swings and roundabouts.

  • Well you'd better get used to it. This is going to be a frequent occurrence until some modern day Charles Martel appears to drive the invaders back to Araby. Since white society has lost its spine for fear of being called racist that's not likely to happen any time soon

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  • Angela Merkel is probably the worst leader of any western nation. I get that she wanted to do good by 1 - addressing the skills shortage by 2 - bringing in refugees from war torn Syria, many of whom would likely be dead or a slave if they had not come. However, she's a fucking moron for turning a blind eye to the culture of that region. She tried to get rid of the bad taste that Hitler left in everyone's mouth by showing how caring and multicultural Germany can be. Unfortunately, it was at the expense of the safety of her own citizens and she's taking the rest of the EU with her. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

  • Angela Merkel is probably the worst leader of any western nation. I get that she wanted to do good by 1 - addressing the skills shortage by 2 - bringing in refugees from war torn Syria, many of whom would likely be dead or a slave if they had not come. However, she's a fucking moron for turning a blind eye to the culture of that region. She tried to get rid of the bad taste that Hitler left in everyone's mouth by showing how caring and multicultural Germany can be. Unfortunately, it was at the expense of the safety of her own citizens and she's taking the rest of the EU with her. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    @vaportrail said:

    Angela Merkel is probably the worst leader of any western nation. I get that she wanted to do good by 1 - addressing the skills shortage by 2 - bringing in refugees from war torn Syria, many of whom would likely be dead or a slave if they had not come. However, she's a fucking moron for turning a blind eye to the culture of that region. She tried to get rid of the bad taste that Hitler left in everyone's mouth by showing how caring and multicultural Germany can be. Unfortunately, it was at the expense of the safety of her own citizens and she's taking the rest of the EU with her. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

    Well put.