Camp Mahomo
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I think you pick a qb that has a qb's mind - or you don't draft one if there isn't one.
All the cannon arm, realy mobile, etc criteria is crap, if the qb doesn't have a qb mind.
He needs to be qb smart. This is really interesting:
Picking up the mental aspects of the game, making fast reads and accurate throws... that's my #2 criteria The
first criteria is character. IE, you don't draft Leaf, etc. You draft Manning.
This.
I think you pick a qb that has a qb's mind - or you don't draft one if there isn't one.
All the cannon arm, realy mobile, etc criteria is crap, if the qb doesn't have a qb mind.
He needs to be qb smart. This is really interesting:
Picking up the mental aspects of the game, making fast reads and accurate throws... that's my #2 criteria The
first criteria is character. IE, you don't draft Leaf, etc. You draft Manning.
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Hogan has been inactive for a reason. HueJax sees no reason nor risk to lose Hogan by putting him on PS(last 4 weeks). Hogan will be at Camp in 17. Kessler will be at 17 Camp, no doubt. I feel 1 FA Veteran coming into battle RG at Camp? If we are burning a pick our goal is to replace Kessler? I see maybe 3 at this point,Trib,Kelly or Kizer may have the gun we have not seen in Kessler but I can't say the 3 have the heater with any anticipation or accuracy that Goff was suppose to have either..Mahomes, (as we seen last draft) may not fall into that college "Pro Style" look that the Pro Scouts evaluated high Last Draft.
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Hogan has been inactive for a reason. HueJax sees no reason nor risk to lose Hogan by putting him on PS(last 4 weeks). Hogan will be at Camp in 17. Kessler will be at 17 Camp, no doubt. I feel 1 FA Veteran coming into battle RG at Camp? If we are burning a pick our goal is to replace Kessler? I see maybe 3 at this point,Trib,Kelly or Kizer may have the gun we have not seen in Kessler but I can't say the 3 have the heater with any anticipation or accuracy that Goff was suppose to have either..Mahomes, (as we seen last draft) may not fall into that college "Pro Style" look that the Pro Scouts evaluated high Last Draft.
Hogan has been inactive for a reason. HueJax sees no reason nor risk to lose Hogan by putting him on PS(last 4 weeks). Hogan will be at Camp in 17. Kessler will be at 17 Camp, no doubt. I feel 1 FA Veteran coming into battle RG at Camp? If we are burning a pick our goal is to replace Kessler? I see maybe 3 at this point,Trib,Kelly or Kizer may have the gun we have not seen in Kessler but I can't say the 3 have the heater with any anticipation or accuracy that Goff was suppose to have either..Mahomes, (as we seen last draft) may not fall into that college "Pro Style" look that the Pro Scouts evaluated high Last Draft.
Nope, if we're burning a pick on a signal caller in 2017 it's because we believe he's the QBOTF. MHO is 70% probability R Glass is gone. I would hope Sashi and Depo will be able to convince Hue that Earth you felt move when you worked out Griffin was a dump truck unloading a pile of garbage right behind you.
As always, regarding Mahomes- it will depend if our FO thinks he can read defenses, and go through progressions. I've seen too much of scramble around until a receiver breaks wide open, and then hit him with a laser shot.
Yeah, I like his mobility and pocket awareness, it's the other stuff where the jury is still out.
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Hogan has been inactive for a reason. HueJax sees no reason nor risk to lose Hogan by putting him on PS(last 4 weeks). Hogan will be at Camp in 17. Kessler will be at 17 Camp, no doubt. I feel 1 FA Veteran coming into battle RG at Camp? If we are burning a pick our goal is to replace Kessler? I see maybe 3 at this point,Trib,Kelly or Kizer may have the gun we have not seen in Kessler but I can't say the 3 have the heater with any anticipation or accuracy that Goff was suppose to have either..Mahomes, (as we seen last draft) may not fall into that college "Pro Style" look that the Pro Scouts evaluated high Last Draft.
Nope, if we're burning a pick on a signal caller in 2017 it's because we believe he's the QBOTF. MHO is 70% probability R Glass is gone. I would hope Sashi and Depo will be able to convince Hue that Earth you felt move when you worked out Griffin was a dump truck unloading a pile of garbage right behind you.
As always, regarding Mahomes- it will depend if our FO thinks he can read defenses, and go through progressions. I've seen too much of scramble around until a receiver breaks wide open, and then hit him with a laser shot.
Yeah, I like his mobility and pocket awareness, it's the other stuff where the jury is still out.
Nope, if we're burning a pick on a signal caller in 2017 it's because we believe he's the QBOTF. MHO is 70% probability R Glass is gone. I would hope Sashi and Depo will be able to convince Hue that Earth you felt move when you worked out Griffin was a dump truck unloading a pile of garbage right behind you.
As always, regarding Mahomes- it will depend if our FO thinks he can read defenses, and go through progressions. I've seen too much of scramble around until a receiver breaks wide open, and then hit him with a laser shot.
Yeah, I like his mobility and pocket awareness, it's the other stuff where the jury is still out.
If it's anywhere in the first 2 rounds, that guy better be ready to start next September. Anywhere else in the draft and its just a guy to see if we can catch lightning in a bottle.
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Hogan has been inactive for a reason. HueJax sees no reason nor risk to lose Hogan by putting him on PS(last 4 weeks). Hogan will be at Camp in 17. Kessler will be at 17 Camp, no doubt. I feel 1 FA Veteran coming into battle RG at Camp? If we are burning a pick our goal is to replace Kessler? I see maybe 3 at this point,Trib,Kelly or Kizer may have the gun we have not seen in Kessler but I can't say the 3 have the heater with any anticipation or accuracy that Goff was suppose to have either..Mahomes, (as we seen last draft) may not fall into that college "Pro Style" look that the Pro Scouts evaluated high Last Draft.
Nope, if we're burning a pick on a signal caller in 2017 it's because we believe he's the QBOTF. MHO is 70% probability R Glass is gone. I would hope Sashi and Depo will be able to convince Hue that Earth you felt move when you worked out Griffin was a dump truck unloading a pile of garbage right behind you.
As always, regarding Mahomes- it will depend if our FO thinks he can read defenses, and go through progressions. I've seen too much of scramble around until a receiver breaks wide open, and then hit him with a laser shot.
Yeah, I like his mobility and pocket awareness, it's the other stuff where the jury is still out.
Nope, if we're burning a pick on a signal caller in 2017 it's because we believe he's the QBOTF. MHO is 70% probability R Glass is gone. I would hope Sashi and Depo will be able to convince Hue that Earth you felt move when you worked out Griffin was a dump truck unloading a pile of garbage right behind you. LOL!!!
I've seen too much of scramble around until a receiver breaks wide open, and then hit him with a laser shot. I see WR's that refuse to come back to QB...
I don't see a supposed "QB guru HC" (needing more than 1-2 wins) coming to a gun fight with 3 young QB's with both a year & another rookie with no Veteran. Kessler's the closest to a keeper for now that I've seen..But, Hue seems to have a liking to Cal Guys(Palmer,Kess now Hogan too) with a college in a semi pro system? guess we may need to scout QB's from State of Washington to the Mississippi River..as for RG3, even if he agree's to get paid by the hour, Haslem will promote him to your Parking Valet..Happy New Year!!
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Mitch2Pryor said:
Lived in cleveland my whole life. If we draft blue chip players instead of reaching on a QB in the first round, what QB are we gonna get in the 2nd that's better?
Because we're tired of shopping in the bargain bin? I've watched some of Mahomes, and read the critiques. My 0.02? He's a bigger, maybe more mobile version of Johnny Football. Without the drinking problem. Mechanics are a mess. & yes I'm aware Walter Football mocked him to the Browns in the second round. Why would we want to draft a Griffin clone?
Because we're tired of shopping in the bargain bin? I've watched some of Mahomes, and read the critiques. My 0.02? He's a bigger, maybe more mobile version of Johnny Football. Without the drinking problem. Mechanics are a mess. & yes I'm aware Walter Football mocked him to the Browns in the second round. Why would we want to draft a Griffin clone?
But a bigger, more mobile, non-drinking problem Johnny Football is a pretty solid NFL prospect, especially at a low price.
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Hue Jackson told us to "trust him" when it came to drafting Cody Kessler, and many of us didn't (including myself). It's safe to say that Cody PROBABLY isn't going to be our future starting QB, but finding a reliable backup QB in the 3rd round isn't an awful value either. I have a feeling that we're going to have to trust Hue and our other staff with this next QB selection as well. Even if it's somebody a tad obscure, like Mahomes, or the Oklahoma State guy. Maybe, just maybe Hue can find our diamond in the rough.
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Does that rhyme with cojones?
WSS
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Which means absolutely nothing
It means something. The Big 12 is wide open WRs in shotgun offenses. Huge adjustments needed by the prospects entering the NFL.
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Which means absolutely nothing
It means something. The Big 12 is wide open WRs in shotgun offenses. Huge adjustments needed by the prospects entering the NFL.
It means something. The Big 12 is wide open WRs in shotgun offenses. Huge adjustments needed by the prospects entering the NFL.
Just for fun the "best" qbs to come out of the Big 12. http://www.espn.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/112241/ranking-the-big-12s-top-5-all-time-qbs
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Because we're tired of shopping in the bargain bin? I've watched some of Mahomes, and read the critiques. My 0.02? He's a bigger, maybe more mobile version of Johnny Football. Without the drinking problem. Mechanics are a mess. & yes I'm aware Walter Football mocked him to the Browns in the second round. Why would we want to draft a Griffin clone?
But a bigger, more mobile, non-drinking problem Johnny Football is a pretty solid NFL prospect, especially at a low price.
But a bigger, more mobile, non-drinking problem Johnny Football is a pretty solid NFL prospect, especially at a low price.
It is? Because bigger and more mobile doesn't compensate for what's lacking between the ears.
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But a bigger, more mobile, non-drinking problem Johnny Football is a pretty solid NFL prospect, especially at a low price.
It is? Because bigger and more mobile doesn't compensate for what's lacking between the ears.
It is? Because bigger and more mobile doesn't compensate for what's lacking between the ears.
Not drinking might.
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Not drinking might.
In that case, Tim Tebow should be the best QB on the planet.
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So QBs can't get better mentally?
They can. But how many QB's come out so fundamentally and 'mentally' raw that are worth investing a high draft pick in?
I can't think of a single one.
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And in the fine tradition of Quinn Fags and Manziel Fanboys members of this Camp shall be the Mahomos.
That was easy.
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Despite what my username might entail, I'm all for drafting Patrick Mahomes in the 2nd round to be our QB of the future
I'd love to see the hometown kid Trubisky go #1 overall to the Browns, but I'd much rather be a good team than be witness to a feel good story.
We have way too many holes as a team and could use our two first round picks to seriously improve our team.
However, we need to address the QB position at some point. RG3 is tough, but is garbage. Kessler is ok, but more of a risk-averse backup. McCown is ready to retire.
Let's grab 2 blue chip prospects in the first round, and get a QB with very high upside in the 2nd round.
Mahomes is big, strong armed, accurate, and mobile. His only knock is the gimmicky offense he plays in at Texas tech. In fact, the offense he plays in is similar to what Derek Carr ran at Fresno state. Scouts even compare him to Carr.
Lets bolster our lines and let Mahomes, Kessler, and whoever else battle to be the starter next year.Mitch2Pryor said:
Despite what my username might entail, I'm all for drafting Patrick Mahomes in the 2nd round to be our QB of the future
I'd love to see the hometown kid Trubisky go #1 overall to the Browns, but I'd much rather be a good team than be witness to a feel good story.
We have way too many holes as a team and could use our two first round picks to seriously improve our team.
However, we need to address the QB position at some point. RG3 is tough, but is garbage. Kessler is ok, but more of a risk-averse backup. McCown is ready to retire.
Let's grab 2 blue chip prospects in the first round, and get a QB with very high upside in the 2nd round.
Mahomes is big, strong armed, accurate, and mobile. His only knock is the gimmicky offense he plays in at Texas tech. In fact, the offense he plays in is similar to what Derek Carr ran at Fresno state. Scouts even compare him to Carr.
Lets bolster our lines and let Mahomes, Kessler, and whoever else battle to be the starter next year.
RG3 is tough? The guy is made of china. Cut him.
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So QBs can't get better mentally?
They can. But how many QB's come out so fundamentally and 'mentally' raw that are worth investing a high draft pick in?
I can't think of a single one.
They can. But how many QB's come out so fundamentally and 'mentally' raw that are worth investing a high draft pick in?
I can't think of a single one.
Is anyone advocating taking Mahomes early?
I wouldn't touch him before the third, probably.
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Is anyone advocating taking Mahomes early?
I wouldn't touch him before the third, probably.
Is this not 'camp mahomes'..? I've seen one poster say take him first round. I've seen another or so say take him as high as the 2nd.
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Mitch2Pryor said:
Despite what my username might entail, I'm all for drafting Patrick Mahomes in the 2nd round to be our QB of the future
I'd love to see the hometown kid Trubisky go #1 overall to the Browns, but I'd much rather be a good team than be witness to a feel good story.
We have way too many holes as a team and could use our two first round picks to seriously improve our team.
However, we need to address the QB position at some point. RG3 is tough, but is garbage. Kessler is ok, but more of a risk-averse backup. McCown is ready to retire.
Let's grab 2 blue chip prospects in the first round, and get a QB with very high upside in the 2nd round.
Mahomes is big, strong armed, accurate, and mobile. His only knock is the gimmicky offense he plays in at Texas tech. In fact, the offense he plays in is similar to what Derek Carr ran at Fresno state. Scouts even compare him to Carr.
Lets bolster our lines and let Mahomes, Kessler, and whoever else battle to be the starter next year.
RG3 is tough? The guy is made of china. Cut him.
RG3 is tough? The guy is made of china. Cut him.
You're conflating toughness with fragility. RG3 may be brittle-boned, but he's a tough S.O.B. The hits he was taking last week were brutal, and yet he kept getting up.
If you break your coracoid bone in your throwing shoulder, or tear your ACL+MCL, it doesn't matter how tough you are.. you're done for a while
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