Nativity scene found in ancient egyptian rock painting..
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I look forward to watching those videos that "prove the Bible" later
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I look forward to watching those videos that "prove the Bible" later
Archeology time after time has vindicated the truthfulness of the stories in the bible.
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I look forward to watching those videos that "prove the Bible" later
Archeology time after time has vindicated the truthfulness of the stories in the bible.
Archeology time after time has vindicated the truthfulness of the stories in the bible.
Archeology has never proved definitively the existence of jesus or any other of the other "supernatural/esoteric" concepts found in the bible. All that has been corroborated are places and people found in some parts of the bible
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Here is one example:Is the Bible accurate concerning the destruction of the walls of Jericho?
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Oh geez, like i said obf....the bible is likely accurate in some of its historical accounts. But the explanations for those events....thats where the nonsense begins.
Like that link you posted...."clearly something supernatural" was at work on those walls. The only thing clear and evident is that the author was peddling an unfounded narrative
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Ahh, now we get to the bottom of it...."Is it further possible that the Palestinian Authority supported this dig for the express purpose of denouncing any Jewish connection to the site?"
Case dismissed
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Oh geez, like i said obf....the bible is likely accurate in some of its historical accounts. But the explanations for those events....thats where the nonsense begins.
Like that link you posted...."clearly something supernatural" was at work on those walls. The only thing clear and evident is that the author was peddling an unfounded narrative
Oh geez, like i said obf....the bible is likely accurate in some of its historical accounts. But the explanations for those events....thats where the nonsense begins.
Like that link you posted...."clearly something supernatural" was at work on those walls. The only thing clear and evident is that the author was peddling an unfounded narrative
The walls came tumbling down Cleve...except the one the bible states didn't, the evidence of the fire Israel set to Jericho, the canisters with grain which Israel was not supposed to take (which is why they were still there)...all the details of the battle of Jericho being shown to be accurate by the archeology..
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i still don't understand what's so amazing about someone writing down something they saw or were told about by others who saw something....and likely embellishing a few things here or there. Nothing proves god tore that wall down. Again, after 300 years you'd expect some headway.
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"I would rather stand with God and be judged by the world, than stand with the world and be judged by God."
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Oh is that how christians are now explaining away the more undesireable elements of the OT? Just anlittle side action that god had going with the joos? Nothing to see here is that it?
Oh is that how christians are now explaining away the more undesireable elements of the OT? Just anlittle side action that god had going with the joos? Nothing to see here is that it?
Which parts? Why do you suppose there is an Old Testament and New Testament? Christians view the Old Testament through the lens of the New Testament. How does God telling people in a particular place during a particular time thousands of years ago before the arrival of Jesus reflect anything on Christians or their interpretation of the Bible?
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That is who it is for Cleve. Just planting some seeds..
Does master, i mean pastor, give u treats every sunday?
Does master, i mean pastor, give u treats every sunday?
Clev, are you just trying to be a shit head? I don't recall OBF talking to you like that at all.
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I am no believer at all but there is no point in being a rude douche.
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Does master, i mean pastor, give u treats every sunday?
Clev, are you just trying to be a shit head? I don't recall OBF talking to you like that at all.
Clev, are you just trying to be a shit head? I don't recall OBF talking to you like that at all.
Obf knows im good natured withhim. The others, not so much. Obf i respect
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Clev, are you just trying to be a shit head? I don't recall OBF talking to you like that at all.
Obf knows im good natured withhim. The others, not so much. Obf i respect
Obf knows im good natured withhim. The others, not so much. Obf i respect
I'll bet I could beat the fuck out of your 1990 Ford Monarch in a race shit bird.
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Obf knows im good natured withhim. The others, not so much. Obf i respect
I'll bet I could beat the fuck out of your 1990 Ford Monarch in a race shit bird.
I'll bet I could beat the fuck out of your 1990 Ford Monarch in a race shit bird.
And the drunk is yelling at me again.
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Wtf is a ford monarch?
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I'll bet I could beat the fuck out of your 1990 Ford Monarch in a race shit bird.
And the drunk is yelling at me again.
And the drunk is yelling at me again.
I don't drink. Never have. I'm Mormon.
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And the drunk is yelling at me again.
I don't drink. Never have. I'm Mormon.
I don't drink. Never have. I'm Mormon.
Very beleivable
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Clev, are you just trying to be a shit head? I don't recall OBF talking to you like that at all.
Obf knows im good natured withhim. The others, not so much. Obf i respect
Obf knows im good natured withhim. The others, not so much. Obf i respect
Thanks Logic but I wasn't offended. Cleve's comment made me laugh as I follow no man or church. I follow the truth and He is the way, the truth and the life.
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Here is where Christians, me being one myself, so I feel I have a right to comment, is that Christians focus way to much on proving the "Bible". Christians have elevated a collection of writings to that of Christ himself and that belief in the "Bible" is also necessary for one to be a Christian.
But ask this question. Where, in the Bible, does it say that one must believe in the Bible the way that so many Christians do today. The Bible is also silent on its own inerrancy and infallibility. How can we fully trust a compilation of letters put together by the Roman Catholic Church that also murdered those that wrote or said anything contrary to what they felt should be in the cannon.
Also, Martin Luther argued that some of the books, should be left out and not included, specifically, Hebrews, James, 1,2 & 3rd John and Revelation (I might have missed a couple). The actual cannon was still hotly debated.Jesus Christ said himself that no one comes to the father, but through him. But today, Christians also hold that one must also believe in "The Bible" as if it were also another part of the Trinity (Also, another Catholic Tradition not once spoke of by Christ or needed for Christianity to exist but is some how now part of Orthodoxy and can't be debated).
Ask yourself another question, if the Bible, is so important, what did the first century Christians do? Most only had access to some letters and many were probably illiterate and couldn't read or write.
My point is that many Christians suffer from and espouse Bibliolatry. Christians make the Bible say and mean things that it was never meant to say or do, nor EVER spoken of by Christ. If Christians would focus their energy on the actual hope of the Gospel and the life of Christ, and put away petty arguments, how much more could be done?Here is where Christians, me being one myself, so I feel I have a right to comment, is that Christians focus way to much on proving the "Bible". Christians have elevated a collection of writings to that of Christ himself and that belief in the "Bible" is also necessary for one to be a Christian.
But ask this question. Where, in the Bible, does it say that one must believe in the Bible the way that so many Christians do today. The Bible is also silent on its own inerrancy and infallibility. How can we fully trust a compilation of letters put together by the Roman Catholic Church that also murdered those that wrote or said anything contrary to what they felt should be in the cannon.
Also, Martin Luther argued that some of the books, should be left out and not included, specifically, Hebrews, James, 1,2 & 3rd John and Revelation (I might have missed a couple). The actual cannon was still hotly debated.
Jesus Christ said himself that no one comes to the father, but through him. But today, Christians also hold that one must also believe in "The Bible" as if it were also another part of the Trinity (Also, another Catholic Tradition not once spoke of by Christ or needed for Christianity to exist but is some how now part of Orthodoxy and can't be debated).
Ask yourself another question, if the Bible, is so important, what did the first century Christians do? Most only had access to some letters and many were probably illiterate and couldn't read or write.
My point is that many Christians suffer from and espouse Bibliolatry. Christians make the Bible say and mean things that it was never meant to say or do, nor EVER spoken of by Christ. If Christians would focus their energy on the actual hope of the Gospel and the life of Christ, and put away petty arguments, how much more could be done?
I can see what you are saying although the importance of the word cannot be underestimated. Christians out doing good works and helping with the poor is also needed. Actually the good works prove one's faith and that one's faith is real. It is just important to realize we are saved by faith and not works. Our works only prove we have faith. In the bible the apostle Paul stresses faith alone but the apostle James seems to contradict that by focusing on works. They actually blend together and are not opposed to each other.
Faith Without Works Is Dead James 2:14-17
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, โDepart in peace, be warmed and filled,โ but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
Ephesians 2:8 the apostle Paul
Ephesians 2:8-9 New International Version (NIV)
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithโand this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godโ 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 1
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