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Nativity scene found in ancient egyptian rock painting..

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  • C Clevfan4life

    Does he rub you under the chin and say good boy now go bring me more souls to feed on......i mean souls to save in the name of jesus thats right what was i saying

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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    Does he rub you under the chin and say good boy now go bring me more souls to feed on......i mean souls to save in the name of jesus thats right what was i saying

    How it works. I was not raised a Christian I had a Christian in the Navy who planted some seeds in my life about the Christian faith. It was 5 years after I got out of the Navy and I kinda hit bottom I got the bible out he gave me and started reading it for real. Best decision I ever made.

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      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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      What parts got to you? Cause i read parts of the bible too and got nothin

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        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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        Only thing i got was that little bullshit detector that resides in the brain flaring up

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          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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          I think the gospel of John is the best place to start.

          Best Place to Start Reading the Bible for a New Christian

          http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/where-is-the-best-place-to-start-reading-the-bible-for-a-new-christian/

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          • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

            @pumpkin-eater said:

            It's a stretch. That being said Jesus' arrival was prophesied in the Old Testament.

            The old testament counts again?

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            P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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            @mld-woody said:

            The old testament counts again?

            Who said it didn't?

            You must be referring to some of the passages that speak only to the Jews who were alive at the time that particular book was written. Well of course those don't apply today unless you are thousands of years old and were liberated from being a slave in Egypt.

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              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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              Oh is that how christians are now explaining away the more undesireable elements of the OT? Just anlittle side action that god had going with the joos? Nothing to see here is that it?

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                @mld-woody said:

                The old testament counts again?

                Who said it didn't?

                You must be referring to some of the passages that speak only to the Jews who were alive at the time that particular book was written. Well of course those don't apply today unless you are thousands of years old and were liberated from being a slave in Egypt.

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                @pumpkin-eater said:

                Who said it didn't?

                You must be referring to some of the passages that speak only to the Jews who were alive at the time that particular book was written. Well of course those don't apply today unless you are thousands of years old and were liberated from being a slave in Egypt.

                I mean... You can pull out dozens of crazy things from the OT. Most religious people then respond with, more or less, that the OT doesn't count. Jesus said so or something. It's just interesting that now it counts again.

                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  Cleve, leave OBF alone.

                  I enjoy the reasonable Christian vs unreasonable Christian Christian offs

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                    I look forward to watching those videos that "prove the Bible" later

                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                      I look forward to watching those videos that "prove the Bible" later

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                      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      @mld-woody said:

                      I look forward to watching those videos that "prove the Bible" later

                      Archeology time after time has vindicated the truthfulness of the stories in the bible.

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                        @mld-woody said:

                        I look forward to watching those videos that "prove the Bible" later

                        Archeology time after time has vindicated the truthfulness of the stories in the bible.

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                        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                        Archeology time after time has vindicated the truthfulness of the stories in the bible.

                        Archeology has never proved definitively the existence of jesus or any other of the other "supernatural/esoteric" concepts found in the bible. All that has been corroborated are places and people found in some parts of the bible

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                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          Here is one example:
                          Is the Bible accurate concerning the destruction of the walls of Jericho?

                          Read more at: http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a011.html
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                            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                            Oh geez, like i said obf....the bible is likely accurate in some of its historical accounts. But the explanations for those events....thats where the nonsense begins.

                            Like that link you posted...."clearly something supernatural" was at work on those walls. The only thing clear and evident is that the author was peddling an unfounded narrative

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                              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                              Ahh, now we get to the bottom of it...."Is it further possible that the Palestinian Authority supported this dig for the express purpose of denouncing any Jewish connection to the site?"

                              Case dismissed

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                              • C Clevfan4life

                                Oh geez, like i said obf....the bible is likely accurate in some of its historical accounts. But the explanations for those events....thats where the nonsense begins.

                                Like that link you posted...."clearly something supernatural" was at work on those walls. The only thing clear and evident is that the author was peddling an unfounded narrative

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                                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                Oh geez, like i said obf....the bible is likely accurate in some of its historical accounts. But the explanations for those events....thats where the nonsense begins.

                                Like that link you posted...."clearly something supernatural" was at work on those walls. The only thing clear and evident is that the author was peddling an unfounded narrative

                                The walls came tumbling down Cleve...except the one the bible states didn't, the evidence of the fire Israel set to Jericho, the canisters with grain which Israel was not supposed to take (which is why they were still there)...all the details of the battle of Jericho being shown to be accurate by the archeology..

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                                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                  i still don't understand what's so amazing about someone writing down something they saw or were told about by others who saw something....and likely embellishing a few things here or there. Nothing proves god tore that wall down. Again, after 300 years you'd expect some headway.

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                                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                    "I would rather stand with God and be judged by the world, than stand with the world and be judged by God."

                                    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                    • C Clevfan4life

                                      Oh is that how christians are now explaining away the more undesireable elements of the OT? Just anlittle side action that god had going with the joos? Nothing to see here is that it?

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                                      P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                                      @clevfan4life said:

                                      Oh is that how christians are now explaining away the more undesireable elements of the OT? Just anlittle side action that god had going with the joos? Nothing to see here is that it?

                                      Which parts? Why do you suppose there is an Old Testament and New Testament? Christians view the Old Testament through the lens of the New Testament. How does God telling people in a particular place during a particular time thousands of years ago before the arrival of Jesus reflect anything on Christians or their interpretation of the Bible?

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                                      • C Clevfan4life

                                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                                        That is who it is for Cleve. Just planting some seeds..

                                        Does master, i mean pastor, give u treats every sunday?

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                                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                        @clevfan4life said:

                                        Does master, i mean pastor, give u treats every sunday?

                                        Clev, are you just trying to be a shit head? I don't recall OBF talking to you like that at all.

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                                          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                          I am no believer at all but there is no point in being a rude douche.

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