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  • The importance of the word:

    Jesus is called the word (John 1:1). The grass withers the flowers fade but the word of God endures forever (Isa. 40:8). When Jesus was tempted by satan he used the word of God against him. Jesus said man does not live by bread alone but by every word from God. The bible is that word. Before we had the written word the early Christians had the spoken word but it was still the word of God. And they went forth and preached everywhere (preached what? the word of God) and signs followed the preaching of the word of God. We are saved by faith. faith in what? The word of God. God says it and we believe it. God says in His word how to be saved and without the word nobody would know the way of salvation.

    In Romans the Apostle Paul lays out God's plan for salvation and note the importance of the word:

    Romans 10:8-17:

    But what does it say?“The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

    10For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him.

    13For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”14How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written:“How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace,Who bring glad tidings of good things!”16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says,“Lord, who has believed our report?” 17So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

    BrownsKiddB 1 Reply

  • Gj obf, doing the lords work. Bring the word to the unwashed heathens

  • C Clevfan4life

    Gj obf, doing the lords work. Bring the word to the unwashed heathens

    @clevfan4life said:

    Gj obf, doing the lords work. Bring the word to the unwashed heathens

    That is who it is for Cleve. Just planting some seeds..

  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    @clevfan4life said:

    Gj obf, doing the lords work. Bring the word to the unwashed heathens

    That is who it is for Cleve. Just planting some seeds..

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    That is who it is for Cleve. Just planting some seeds..

    Does master, i mean pastor, give u treats every sunday?

    OldBrownsFanO LogicIsForSquaresL 2 Replies
  • C Clevfan4life

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    That is who it is for Cleve. Just planting some seeds..

    Does master, i mean pastor, give u treats every sunday?

    @clevfan4life said:

    Does master, i mean pastor, give u treats every sunday?

    LOL...I only have one Master Cleve...

  • Does he rub you under the chin and say good boy now go bring me more souls to feed on......i mean souls to save in the name of jesus thats right what was i saying

  • C Clevfan4life

    Does he rub you under the chin and say good boy now go bring me more souls to feed on......i mean souls to save in the name of jesus thats right what was i saying

    @clevfan4life said:

    Does he rub you under the chin and say good boy now go bring me more souls to feed on......i mean souls to save in the name of jesus thats right what was i saying

    How it works. I was not raised a Christian I had a Christian in the Navy who planted some seeds in my life about the Christian faith. It was 5 years after I got out of the Navy and I kinda hit bottom I got the bible out he gave me and started reading it for real. Best decision I ever made.

  • What parts got to you? Cause i read parts of the bible too and got nothin

  • Only thing i got was that little bullshit detector that resides in the brain flaring up

  • I think the gospel of John is the best place to start.

    Best Place to Start Reading the Bible for a New Christian

    http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/where-is-the-best-place-to-start-reading-the-bible-for-a-new-christian/

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    It's a stretch. That being said Jesus' arrival was prophesied in the Old Testament.

    The old testament counts again?

    @mld-woody said:

    The old testament counts again?

    Who said it didn't?

    You must be referring to some of the passages that speak only to the Jews who were alive at the time that particular book was written. Well of course those don't apply today unless you are thousands of years old and were liberated from being a slave in Egypt.

    :neutral_face:
    MLD WoodyM 1 Reply

  • Oh is that how christians are now explaining away the more undesireable elements of the OT? Just anlittle side action that god had going with the joos? Nothing to see here is that it?

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  • P Pumpkin Eater

    @mld-woody said:

    The old testament counts again?

    Who said it didn't?

    You must be referring to some of the passages that speak only to the Jews who were alive at the time that particular book was written. Well of course those don't apply today unless you are thousands of years old and were liberated from being a slave in Egypt.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Who said it didn't?

    You must be referring to some of the passages that speak only to the Jews who were alive at the time that particular book was written. Well of course those don't apply today unless you are thousands of years old and were liberated from being a slave in Egypt.

    I mean... You can pull out dozens of crazy things from the OT. Most religious people then respond with, more or less, that the OT doesn't count. Jesus said so or something. It's just interesting that now it counts again.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • Cleve, leave OBF alone.

    I enjoy the reasonable Christian vs unreasonable Christian Christian offs

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • I look forward to watching those videos that "prove the Bible" later

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    I look forward to watching those videos that "prove the Bible" later

    @mld-woody said:

    I look forward to watching those videos that "prove the Bible" later

    Archeology time after time has vindicated the truthfulness of the stories in the bible.

  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    @mld-woody said:

    I look forward to watching those videos that "prove the Bible" later

    Archeology time after time has vindicated the truthfulness of the stories in the bible.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Archeology time after time has vindicated the truthfulness of the stories in the bible.

    Archeology has never proved definitively the existence of jesus or any other of the other "supernatural/esoteric" concepts found in the bible. All that has been corroborated are places and people found in some parts of the bible

  • Here is one example:
    Is the Bible accurate concerning the destruction of the walls of Jericho?

    Read more at: http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a011.html

  • Oh geez, like i said obf....the bible is likely accurate in some of its historical accounts. But the explanations for those events....thats where the nonsense begins.

    Like that link you posted...."clearly something supernatural" was at work on those walls. The only thing clear and evident is that the author was peddling an unfounded narrative

    OldBrownsFanO 1 Reply

  • Ahh, now we get to the bottom of it...."Is it further possible that the Palestinian Authority supported this dig for the express purpose of denouncing any Jewish connection to the site?"

    Case dismissed

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