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Nativity scene found in ancient egyptian rock painting..

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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      @diehardbrownsfan said:

      Your parents really fucked you up kid.

      This coming from the feeble old man whose own daughter does the seinfeld cantstandya whenever she sees ur number in the caller ID. Cantstandya one bit

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      @clevfan4life said:

      This coming from the feeble old man whose own daughter does the seinfeld cantstandya whenever she sees ur number in the caller ID. Cantstandya one bit

      Common kid, you know yu really got a thing for me don't ya?

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by
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        Here is where Christians, me being one myself, so I feel I have a right to comment, is that Christians focus way to much on proving the "Bible". Christians have elevated a collection of writings to that of Christ himself and that belief in the "Bible" is also necessary for one to be a Christian.

        But ask this question. Where, in the Bible, does it say that one must believe in the Bible the way that so many Christians do today. The Bible is also silent on its own inerrancy and infallibility. How can we fully trust a compilation of letters put together by the Roman Catholic Church that also murdered those that wrote or said anything contrary to what they felt should be in the cannon.

        Also, Martin Luther argued that some of the books, should be left out and not included, specifically, Hebrews, James, 1,2 & 3rd John and Revelation (I might have missed a couple). The actual cannon was still hotly debated.

        Jesus Christ said himself that no one comes to the father, but through him. But today, Christians also hold that one must also believe in "The Bible" as if it were also another part of the Trinity (Also, another Catholic Tradition not once spoke of by Christ or needed for Christianity to exist but is some how now part of Orthodoxy and can't be debated).

        Ask yourself another question, if the Bible, is so important, what did the first century Christians do? Most only had access to some letters and many were probably illiterate and couldn't read or write.

        My point is that many Christians suffer from and espouse Bibliolatry. Christians make the Bible say and mean things that it was never meant to say or do, nor EVER spoken of by Christ. If Christians would focus their energy on the actual hope of the Gospel and the life of Christ, and put away petty arguments, how much more could be done?

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          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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          Fuck....forgot about the ice giants. Dammit, fucking ice giants and shit

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            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            The importance of the word:

            Jesus is called the word (John 1:1). The grass withers the flowers fade but the word of God endures forever (Isa. 40:8). When Jesus was tempted by satan he used the word of God against him. Jesus said man does not live by bread alone but by every word from God. The bible is that word. Before we had the written word the early Christians had the spoken word but it was still the word of God. And they went forth and preached everywhere (preached what? the word of God) and signs followed the preaching of the word of God. We are saved by faith. faith in what? The word of God. God says it and we believe it. God says in His word how to be saved and without the word nobody would know the way of salvation.

            In Romans the Apostle Paul lays out God's plan for salvation and note the importance of the word:

            Romans 10:8-17:

            But what does it say?“The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

            10For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him.

            13For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”14How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written:“How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace,Who bring glad tidings of good things!”16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says,“Lord, who has believed our report?” 17So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

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              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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              Gj obf, doing the lords work. Bring the word to the unwashed heathens

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                Gj obf, doing the lords work. Bring the word to the unwashed heathens

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                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                @clevfan4life said:

                Gj obf, doing the lords work. Bring the word to the unwashed heathens

                That is who it is for Cleve. Just planting some seeds..

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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  Gj obf, doing the lords work. Bring the word to the unwashed heathens

                  That is who it is for Cleve. Just planting some seeds..

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                  That is who it is for Cleve. Just planting some seeds..

                  Does master, i mean pastor, give u treats every sunday?

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                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                    That is who it is for Cleve. Just planting some seeds..

                    Does master, i mean pastor, give u treats every sunday?

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                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    Does master, i mean pastor, give u treats every sunday?

                    LOL...I only have one Master Cleve...

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                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                      Does he rub you under the chin and say good boy now go bring me more souls to feed on......i mean souls to save in the name of jesus thats right what was i saying

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                        Does he rub you under the chin and say good boy now go bring me more souls to feed on......i mean souls to save in the name of jesus thats right what was i saying

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                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        @clevfan4life said:

                        Does he rub you under the chin and say good boy now go bring me more souls to feed on......i mean souls to save in the name of jesus thats right what was i saying

                        How it works. I was not raised a Christian I had a Christian in the Navy who planted some seeds in my life about the Christian faith. It was 5 years after I got out of the Navy and I kinda hit bottom I got the bible out he gave me and started reading it for real. Best decision I ever made.

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                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                          What parts got to you? Cause i read parts of the bible too and got nothin

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                            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                            Only thing i got was that little bullshit detector that resides in the brain flaring up

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                              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                              I think the gospel of John is the best place to start.

                              Best Place to Start Reading the Bible for a New Christian

                              http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/where-is-the-best-place-to-start-reading-the-bible-for-a-new-christian/

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                                @pumpkin-eater said:

                                It's a stretch. That being said Jesus' arrival was prophesied in the Old Testament.

                                The old testament counts again?

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                                P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                                @mld-woody said:

                                The old testament counts again?

                                Who said it didn't?

                                You must be referring to some of the passages that speak only to the Jews who were alive at the time that particular book was written. Well of course those don't apply today unless you are thousands of years old and were liberated from being a slave in Egypt.

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                                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                  Oh is that how christians are now explaining away the more undesireable elements of the OT? Just anlittle side action that god had going with the joos? Nothing to see here is that it?

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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    The old testament counts again?

                                    Who said it didn't?

                                    You must be referring to some of the passages that speak only to the Jews who were alive at the time that particular book was written. Well of course those don't apply today unless you are thousands of years old and were liberated from being a slave in Egypt.

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    @pumpkin-eater said:

                                    Who said it didn't?

                                    You must be referring to some of the passages that speak only to the Jews who were alive at the time that particular book was written. Well of course those don't apply today unless you are thousands of years old and were liberated from being a slave in Egypt.

                                    I mean... You can pull out dozens of crazy things from the OT. Most religious people then respond with, more or less, that the OT doesn't count. Jesus said so or something. It's just interesting that now it counts again.

                                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                      Cleve, leave OBF alone.

                                      I enjoy the reasonable Christian vs unreasonable Christian Christian offs

                                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        I look forward to watching those videos that "prove the Bible" later

                                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                          I look forward to watching those videos that "prove the Bible" later

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                                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          I look forward to watching those videos that "prove the Bible" later

                                          Archeology time after time has vindicated the truthfulness of the stories in the bible.

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