ELECTORAL COLLEGE
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It was the end of the world when both Trump and Obama won
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I can see why the democrats want the electoral college done away with because twice now (recently) they have lost a presidential election having won the popular vote. Of course they would want to get rid of it, it doesn't benefit them. But it was put in place as part of the country being set up as a republic and not a true democracy by the founders. With the demographics today I look for the forseeable future any reasonably close election won by a republican they will win it by the electoral college and not the popular vote. Large heavily democratic states like California and New York run up the margins so large now it is bound to happen. While not happening often before it will be happening now more frequently.
If the shoe were on the other foot it probably would be the republicans wanting to do away with the electoral college. It is a tough pill to swallow to win the popular vote and lose the election.
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Oh well dont like it? Go start your own country.
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The day 3/4 of states agree to be nothing more than California's bitch will never come.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
California and New York already deride us as "flyover country" but now they want us to bend the knee to them? Fat fucking chance.
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I think that the electoral college is overall not a bad idea, but it could use a bit of tweaking. As it stands, the number of electoral votes each state has is based off of that state's number of Representatives in the House (population), which allows for candidates to avoid campaigning in lower population states in favor of those with the most electoral votes.
I think that we could keep the Electoral College, except that instead of basing the votes off of population, we could base it similarly to how the Senate is set up: Each state would get two electoral votes each, with Washington D.C. having one electoral vote, for a total of 101. The candidate with a simple majority of electoral votes would win, and the individual states could choose how they award their 2 electoral votes. With all states having the same number of votes, that would force candidates to actually go out and campaign in more states instead of just focusing on a few.
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actually, I have to think about that. Offhand, I think it's a great idea - gets rid of the influence of the mega-populated
giant cities like NY, Chicago, etc.
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After further reading, I found that the Electoral College is based off of both the House and Senate numbers, but I did find another interesting idea from the Cato Institute: https://www.cato.org/policy-report/marchapril-2013/should-we-reform-electoral-college
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It's great just how it is.
It's great just how it is.
I agree but I am very much against the democrat party and the electoral college has cost them two elections in the last 16 years. If the shoe were on the other foot and the republicans were winning the popular vote and losing in the electoral college it would be hard to resist not wanting to change it.
Because it is almost impossible to do away with the electoral college some democrat states are trying to get around it by signing on to an electoral college compact to give the electors to the winner of the popular vote. The article I read talked about how this would benefit all the states
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I guess it really depends on whose ox is being al gored.
But beyond that apart from political allegiance it really doesn't seem right but New York Chicago and Los Angeles should run the entire country.
Look at the tiny blue splotches on the map interspersed among the red.
WSS
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The day 3/4 of states agree to be nothing more than California's bitch will never come.
The day 3/4 of states agree to be nothing more than California's bitch will never come.
His proposal (the same proposal many others on here have made) would weaken California...
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I think it's a good idea. But you'll just get some combination of
"Stupid liberal!"
"We can't ever change the Constitution!"
"You'll never get the votes!"
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
"scary dark people".
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I think it's a good idea. But you'll just get some combination of
"Stupid liberal!"
"We can't ever change the Constitution!"
"You'll never get the votes!"
I think it's a good idea. But you'll just get some combination of
"Stupid liberal!"
"We can't ever change the Constitution!"
"You'll never get the votes!"
Skeptics Realists.
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If it's a discussion of what should theoretically happen, and what would be the best case scenario. That discussion. Saying "well you won't get the votes" adds nothing.
I get what you attempted to do, but this doesn't compare to the religion discussion. Here we're saying even if it can never happen, what would be best. Unless you want to preface your Bible discussion with "I know this could never happen, but..."
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So, Woody, if it were up to you would the election be a straight popular vote?
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Whoever wins the electoral college loves the electoral college.
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So, Woody, if it were up to you would the election be a straight popular vote?
WSS
So, Woody, if it were up to you would the election be a straight popular vote?
WSS
No. As I've said in every past thread I think the electoral votes per state should be divided up based on the percentage of the popular vote in that state.
If a state has 20 electoral votes, and you get 50% of the vote there, you get 10 electoral votes. This seems like the middle ground between what we have now and a pure popular vote from a statistical standpoint
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