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  • The Cysko Kid T Conversation Starter Reacting Well Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
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    T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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    The day 3/4 of states agree to be nothing more than California's bitch will never come.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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      T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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      California and New York already deride us as "flyover country" but now they want us to bend the knee to them? Fat fucking chance.

      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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        jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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        I think that the electoral college is overall not a bad idea, but it could use a bit of tweaking. As it stands, the number of electoral votes each state has is based off of that state's number of Representatives in the House (population), which allows for candidates to avoid campaigning in lower population states in favor of those with the most electoral votes.

        I think that we could keep the Electoral College, except that instead of basing the votes off of population, we could base it similarly to how the Senate is set up: Each state would get two electoral votes each, with Washington D.C. having one electoral vote, for a total of 101. The candidate with a simple majority of electoral votes would win, and the individual states could choose how they award their 2 electoral votes. With all states having the same number of votes, that would force candidates to actually go out and campaign in more states instead of just focusing on a few.

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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          actually, I have to think about that. Offhand, I think it's a great idea - gets rid of the influence of the mega-populated

          giant cities like NY, Chicago, etc.

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            jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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            After further reading, I found that the Electoral College is based off of both the House and Senate numbers, but I did find another interesting idea from the Cato Institute: https://www.cato.org/policy-report/marchapril-2013/should-we-reform-electoral-college

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              P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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              It's great just how it is.

              :neutral_face:
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                It's great just how it is.

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                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                @pumpkin-eater said:

                It's great just how it is.

                I agree but I am very much against the democrat party and the electoral college has cost them two elections in the last 16 years. If the shoe were on the other foot and the republicans were winning the popular vote and losing in the electoral college it would be hard to resist not wanting to change it.

                Because it is almost impossible to do away with the electoral college some democrat states are trying to get around it by signing on to an electoral college compact to give the electors to the winner of the popular vote. The article I read talked about how this would benefit all the states 😁 ...I love it when they try to insult our intelligence...there is a reason only blue states have signed on to this.

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                  W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                  I guess it really depends on whose ox is being al gored.

                  But beyond that apart from political allegiance it really doesn't seem right but New York Chicago and Los Angeles should run the entire country.

                  Look at the tiny blue splotches on the map interspersed among the red.

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                    The day 3/4 of states agree to be nothing more than California's bitch will never come.

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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                    The day 3/4 of states agree to be nothing more than California's bitch will never come.

                    His proposal (the same proposal many others on here have made) would weaken California...

                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      I think it's a good idea. But you'll just get some combination of

                      "Stupid liberal!"

                      "We can't ever change the Constitution!"

                      "You'll never get the votes!"

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        "scary dark people".

                        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                        • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                          I think it's a good idea. But you'll just get some combination of

                          "Stupid liberal!"

                          "We can't ever change the Constitution!"

                          "You'll never get the votes!"

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                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          @mld-woody said:

                          I think it's a good idea. But you'll just get some combination of

                          "Stupid liberal!"

                          "We can't ever change the Constitution!"

                          "You'll never get the votes!"

                          Skeptics Realists.

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            If it's a discussion of what should theoretically happen, and what would be the best case scenario. That discussion. Saying "well you won't get the votes" adds nothing.

                            I get what you attempted to do, but this doesn't compare to the religion discussion. Here we're saying even if it can never happen, what would be best. Unless you want to preface your Bible discussion with "I know this could never happen, but..."

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                              So, Woody, if it were up to you would the election be a straight popular vote?

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                                bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                Whoever wins the electoral college loves the electoral college.

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                                • W Westside Steve

                                  So, Woody, if it were up to you would the election be a straight popular vote?

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                                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  So, Woody, if it were up to you would the election be a straight popular vote?

                                  WSS

                                  No. As I've said in every past thread I think the electoral votes per state should be divided up based on the percentage of the popular vote in that state.

                                  If a state has 20 electoral votes, and you get 50% of the vote there, you get 10 electoral votes. This seems like the middle ground between what we have now and a pure popular vote from a statistical standpoint

                                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    So, Woody, if it were up to you would the election be a straight popular vote?

                                    WSS

                                    No. As I've said in every past thread I think the electoral votes per state should be divided up based on the percentage of the popular vote in that state.

                                    If a state has 20 electoral votes, and you get 50% of the vote there, you get 10 electoral votes. This seems like the middle ground between what we have now and a pure popular vote from a statistical standpoint

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                                    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    No. As I've said in every past thread I think the electoral votes per state should be divided up based on the percentage of the popular vote in that state.

                                    If a state has 20 electoral votes, and you get 50% of the vote there, you get 10 electoral votes. This seems like the middle ground between what we have now and a pure popular vote from a statistical standpoint

                                    Electoral votes are distributed by population.

                                    So if they were equally portioned with no winner take all states the election would be primarily by population right?

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                                      Whoever wins the electoral college loves the electoral college.

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                                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                      @bbedward said:

                                      Whoever wins the electoral college loves the electoral college.

                                      Yup

                                      https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266038556504494082

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        No. As I've said in every past thread I think the electoral votes per state should be divided up based on the percentage of the popular vote in that state.

                                        If a state has 20 electoral votes, and you get 50% of the vote there, you get 10 electoral votes. This seems like the middle ground between what we have now and a pure popular vote from a statistical standpoint

                                        Electoral votes are distributed by population.

                                        So if they were equally portioned with no winner take all states the election would be primarily by population right?

                                        WSS

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        Electoral votes are distributed by population.

                                        So if they were equally portioned with no winner take all states the election would be primarily by population right?

                                        WSS

                                        Not entirely. Each state has a base value of votes from the Senate. That makes smaller states worth more than their percentage of the population.

                                        It would be more popular vote based than it is now, but not be entirely popular vote. There'd also be no "locks". A Rep could campaign in Cali and walk away with something.

                                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                          I have never once dissed the electoral college, win or lose. and two clinton and obamao terms were losses.

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