Nativity scene found in ancient egyptian rock painting..
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I can run 10 miles and damn sure don't need 02. I think you need Psychiatric help trannny!
I can run 10 miles and damn sure don't need 02. I think you need Psychiatric help trannny!
U can run 10 miles in ur oxygen deprived dreams.
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I can run 10 miles and damn sure don't need 02. I think you need Psychiatric help trannny!
I can run 10 miles and damn sure don't need 02. I think you need Psychiatric help trannny!
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Dont bring tony into this u dirty moulinyan
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Im italian, he's only for other wops
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I don't think OBF lacks critical thinking ability. I just think he turns it off when discussing religion.
Take our discussion here. There are MASSIVE holes in his argument but the only evidence he needs is "the Bible says so."
For we walk by critical thinking faith not by sight. II Cor. 5:7
For we walk by critical thinking faith not by sight. II Cor. 5:7
See, this right here, your post, is what I am talking about. You're actively saying "I don't need critical thinking, I have faith." You see no issue with that? Really?
And when an elected official thinks like that, one that can affect my life, it's not a good feeling. You're actively choosing to be ignorant because that makes it easier to believe your religion.
I just don't understand how you CAN'T see an issue with that.
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Put it in reverse and have an atheist in power who imposes atheistic beleifs on us....see what happens
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For we walk by critical thinking faith not by sight. II Cor. 5:7
See, this right here, your post, is what I am talking about. You're actively saying "I don't need critical thinking, I have faith." You see no issue with that? Really?
And when an elected official thinks like that, one that can affect my life, it's not a good feeling. You're actively choosing to be ignorant because that makes it easier to believe your religion.
I just don't understand how you CAN'T see an issue with that.
See, this right here, your post, is what I am talking about. You're actively saying "I don't need critical thinking, I have faith." You see no issue with that? Really?
And when an elected official thinks like that, one that can affect my life, it's not a good feeling. You're actively choosing to be ignorant because that makes it easier to believe your religion.
I just don't understand how you CAN'T see an issue with that.
Let me see about some critical thinking. Man's wisdom creates laws to punish those who would commit murder yet they allow murder of a baby inside a womb by abortion? A person could hit a pregnant woman in the stomach and cause her to lose her baby and get charged with murder yet the same woman could kill the baby by having an abortion and that is not murder? I'm sticking with thou shall not commit murder which includes babies in the womb.
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Put it in reverse and have an atheist in power who imposes atheistic beleifs on us....see what happens
Put it in reverse and have an atheist in power who imposes atheistic beleifs on us....see what happens
That's an oxymoron. There are no beliefs for an atheist to impose upon another.
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See, this right here, your post, is what I am talking about. You're actively saying "I don't need critical thinking, I have faith." You see no issue with that? Really?
And when an elected official thinks like that, one that can affect my life, it's not a good feeling. You're actively choosing to be ignorant because that makes it easier to believe your religion.
I just don't understand how you CAN'T see an issue with that.
Let me see about some critical thinking. Man's wisdom creates laws to punish those who would commit murder yet they allow murder of a baby inside a womb by abortion? A person could hit a pregnant woman in the stomach and cause her to lose her baby and get charged with murder yet the same woman could kill the baby by having an abortion and that is not murder? I'm sticking with thou shall not commit murder which includes babies in the womb.
Let me see about some critical thinking. Man's wisdom creates laws to punish those who would commit murder yet they allow murder of a baby inside a womb by abortion? A person could hit a pregnant woman in the stomach and cause her to lose her baby and get charged with murder yet the same woman could kill the baby by having an abortion and that is not murder? I'm sticking with thou shall not commit murder which includes babies in the womb.
What about the whole beating your slave with a rod, but it's cool if he/she dies because they're your property?
edit: After all, have to keep in line with the commandments. Which are OT, by the way.
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Let me see about some critical thinking. Man's wisdom creates laws to punish those who would commit murder yet they allow murder of a baby inside a womb by abortion? A person could hit a pregnant woman in the stomach and cause her to lose her baby and get charged with murder yet the same woman could kill the baby by having an abortion and that is not murder? I'm sticking with thou shall not commit murder which includes babies in the womb.
What about the whole beating your slave with a rod, but it's cool if he/she dies because they're your property?
edit: After all, have to keep in line with the commandments. Which are OT, by the way.
What about the whole beating your slave with a rod, but it's cool if he/she dies because they're your property?
edit: After all, have to keep in line with the commandments. Which are OT, by the way.
Well, obviously, that's the Old Testament, which doesn't count. You know, until it does.

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Let me see about some critical thinking. Man's wisdom creates laws to punish those who would commit murder yet they allow murder of a baby inside a womb by abortion? A person could hit a pregnant woman in the stomach and cause her to lose her baby and get charged with murder yet the same woman could kill the baby by having an abortion and that is not murder? I'm sticking with thou shall not commit murder which includes babies in the womb.
What about the whole beating your slave with a rod, but it's cool if he/she dies because they're your property?
edit: After all, have to keep in line with the commandments. Which are OT, by the way.
What about the whole beating your slave with a rod, but it's cool if he/she dies because they're your property?
edit: After all, have to keep in line with the commandments. Which are OT, by the way.
good point. So lemme rephrase...if an Atheist imposed his non beleifs in the form of not allowing others to impose their beliefs. Better?
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Let me see about some critical thinking. Man's wisdom creates laws to punish those who would commit murder yet they allow murder of a baby inside a womb by abortion? A person could hit a pregnant woman in the stomach and cause her to lose her baby and get charged with murder yet the same woman could kill the baby by having an abortion and that is not murder? I'm sticking with thou shall not commit murder which includes babies in the womb.
What about the whole beating your slave with a rod, but it's cool if he/she dies because they're your property?
edit: After all, have to keep in line with the commandments. Which are OT, by the way.
The Judeo-Christian Values of AmericaWhat about the whole beating your slave with a rod, but it's cool if he/she dies because they're your property?
edit: After all, have to keep in line with the commandments. Which are OT, by the way.
Judeo-Christian Values have a foundational role in America, beginning with the Declaration of Independence:"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness..."
Our Founding Fathers separated church from state, but they wisely did not separate God from state; they acknowledged God as the source of our rights, and, in fact, they were careful to place Biblical morality directly into our founding documents and laws, and into our values and culture precisely to help prevent a future of totalitarian or tyrannical rule in America. The combination of keeping Judeo-Christian religious morality in the state, as opposed to the church it's self; and, additionally, setting up our laws based on reason and common sense has contributed to the American Character, and to what is known as "American Exceptionalism."
Our Founding Fathers were religious in a new way, the Judeo-Christian way, and they were the liberals of their day by deducing that our political and human rights come from a power higher than human government; but they were conservative to Biblical morality. There was and still is a connection between God and Liberty; He is the author of it.
In Judeo-Christian America one finds the idea of equality before God and the law, but not government forced economic equality. Modern European culture has stressed the value of economic equality rather than Liberty, and their governments unjustly enforce the principle. This has led to the failed European inventions of Socialism and Communism. Socialists in America have been lured into this failed European idea of social justice. Socialism is a failure in that it unjustly suppresses human creativity by excessively taxing away its rewards, and by foolishly giving economic reward to many who, even though mentally and physically able, fail to honor their Divine privilege and duty to work creatively.Thus, Socialism is a dual insult to God-given creativity. Communism was much worse in that it also dishonored the sacredness of human life and liberty. Communism was the inevitable result of separating not just church from state, but God from state. Communism dishonored God's gifts of Life, Liberty and Creativity. European cultures have historical ties to authoritarian and totalitarian systems dating back to the Roman Empire. Even European Christianity was, for a time, contaminated by its links to authoritarian rule.American Judeo-Christian Culture, on the other hand, has been linked to honoring Life, Liberty and Creativity from the outset; deriving its wisdom from the lights of reason, common sense, and both the Hebrew Bible and New Testament Christian Bible. Thomas Jefferson and the great majority of our Founding Fathers explicitly put God into the national life of the United States, by putting the Creator into the Declaration of Independence. It is important that American Liberty has something to do with God; that is something for students to know and discuss, even if they are not particularly religious. This does not represent some form of tyranny of the religious majority or an injustice; it was in fact the wisdom of our Founding Fathers to stand in opposition to tyranny and injustice by acknowledging the source of our rights -- those rights originating from God rather than from King George III, or for that matter from the Soviet or Chinese Politburo, or a courthouse, or a legislature.America is a melting pot of diverse people including Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and Atheists; and from the Judeo-Christian perspective, all are made in God's image. We have in America a multiethnic society, and that is good. What would be unhealthy for America would be for it to become Balkanized, something likely to happen with the atrophy of Judeo-Christian American Culture and Values. Worse yet would be for America to adopt the toxic values which exist in some parts of the world and which are endemic in some foreign cultures. The values of Fascism, Nazism, Communism or Totalitarian Islamic Sharia Law for example must never metastasize into our American Culture, rooted in Judeo-Christian values. These values have been with us from the beginning and they have made us strong and successful. These Judeo- Christian Values should be kept central to the American Spirit and Culture even as we have become more multi-ethnic. -
He won't read it obf. He'll just want to argue the negative because that's what he is. No different than Woody, Cleve or What's his face.
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What about the whole beating your slave with a rod, but it's cool if he/she dies because they're your property?
edit: After all, have to keep in line with the commandments. Which are OT, by the way.
good point. So lemme rephrase...if an Atheist imposed his non beleifs in the form of not allowing others to impose their beliefs. Better?
good point. So lemme rephrase...if an Atheist imposed his non beleifs in the form of not allowing others to impose their beliefs. Better?
We don't elect kings we elect presidents who are confined to only the powers given to them by our constitution. So don't sweat it. No one person will be imposing anything...thanks to the wisdom of the founders of the country.
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He won't read it obf. He'll just want to argue the negative because that's what he is. No different than Woody, Cleve or What's his face.
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He won't read it obf. He'll just want to argue the negative because that's what he is. No different than Woody, Cleve or What's his face.
First off I won't read it because it's a wall of text that isn't OBF's own thoughts.
I'll glady accept a paragraph from himself and not the work of another. I'm asking his opinion afterall.
Oh, and... suck a cock. I'm not woody, Cleve or anyone else for that matter.
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See, this right here, your post, is what I am talking about. You're actively saying "I don't need critical thinking, I have faith." You see no issue with that? Really?
And when an elected official thinks like that, one that can affect my life, it's not a good feeling. You're actively choosing to be ignorant because that makes it easier to believe your religion.
I just don't understand how you CAN'T see an issue with that.
Let me see about some critical thinking. Man's wisdom creates laws to punish those who would commit murder yet they allow murder of a baby inside a womb by abortion? A person could hit a pregnant woman in the stomach and cause her to lose her baby and get charged with murder yet the same woman could kill the baby by having an abortion and that is not murder? I'm sticking with thou shall not commit murder which includes babies in the womb.
Let me see about some critical thinking. Man's wisdom creates laws to punish those who would commit murder yet they allow murder of a baby inside a womb by abortion? A person could hit a pregnant woman in the stomach and cause her to lose her baby and get charged with murder yet the same woman could kill the baby by having an abortion and that is not murder? I'm sticking with thou shall not commit murder which includes babies in the womb.
Well that's one hell of a pivot. Ignoring the fact you just praised ignoring critical thinking for blind faith. Which is an awful thing to do.
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Let me see about some critical thinking. Man's wisdom creates laws to punish those who would commit murder yet they allow murder of a baby inside a womb by abortion? A person could hit a pregnant woman in the stomach and cause her to lose her baby and get charged with murder yet the same woman could kill the baby by having an abortion and that is not murder? I'm sticking with thou shall not commit murder which includes babies in the womb.
Well that's one hell of a pivot. Ignoring the fact you just praised ignoring critical thinking for blind faith. Which is an awful thing to do.
Well that's one hell of a pivot. Ignoring the fact you just praised ignoring critical thinking for blind faith. Which is an awful thing to do.
The bible is full of wisdom that I would be happy to see any political leader be guided by. It is not a math or science book. 2 plus 2 will always be 4. As usual you are going to extremes. The example I used was about murder. It is always wrong and condemned as wrong in the bible but man in his wisdom has made exceptions for babies in the womb. NOw man's wisdom makes no logical sense that a person can be charged with murder for punching a pregnant woman in the stomach causing her to lose a baby however the same woman could have went and aborted murdered the baby legally. So it is not murder if she chooses to murder the baby?
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"One said:
He won't read it obf. He'll just want to argue the negative because that's what he is. No different than Woody, Cleve or What's his face.
First off I won't read it because it's a wall of text that isn't OBF's own thoughts.
I'll glady accept a paragraph from himself and not the work of another. I'm asking his opinion afterall.
Oh, and... suck a cock. I'm not woody, Cleve or anyone else for that matter.
First off I won't read it because it's a wall of text that isn't OBF's own thoughts.
I'll glady accept a paragraph from himself and not the work of another. I'm asking his opinion afterall.
OBF is humble and will gladly post (copy and paste) the thoughts of others when they say it better than I could.
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Well that's one hell of a pivot. Ignoring the fact you just praised ignoring critical thinking for blind faith. Which is an awful thing to do.
The bible is full of wisdom that I would be happy to see any political leader be guided by. It is not a math or science book. 2 plus 2 will always be 4. As usual you are going to extremes. The example I used was about murder. It is always wrong and condemned as wrong in the bible but man in his wisdom has made exceptions for babies in the womb. NOw man's wisdom makes no logical sense that a person can be charged with murder for punching a pregnant woman in the stomach causing her to lose a baby however the same woman could have went and aborted murdered the baby legally. So it is not murder if she chooses to murder the baby?
The bible is full of wisdom that I would be happy to see any political leader be guided by. It is not a math or science book. 2 plus 2 will always be 4. As usual you are going to extremes. The example I used was about murder. It is always wrong and condemned as wrong in the bible but man in his wisdom has made exceptions for babies in the womb. NOw man's wisdom makes no logical sense that a person can be charged with murder for punching a pregnant woman in the stomach causing her to lose a baby however the same woman could have went and
abortedmurdered the baby legally. So it is not murder if she chooses to murder the baby?I'm the one talking extremes but you pivoted the argument to murdering babies.... Alright.
Look, you straight up said blind faith comes before critical thinking. I think that's insane. Anything you see after that point is just irrelevant.
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