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  • mjp28 mjp28M In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
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    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    Well it's 2017 how many days until "The Game"? Will "m" actually think that they can actually win? 😆

    Oh geezz us it's going to be a long offseason but we have the BROWNS Draft and the AL CHAMPION CLEVELAND INDIANS to look forward to and very soon.

    HAPPY NEW YEAR y'all!

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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      Clemson 31---- Frauds 0

      lol 😆

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      mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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      @axe said:

      Clemson 31---- Frauds 0

      lol 😆

      And 11-2 is no fraud. 🙂

      When PSU loses to USC it will be the best record in the BIG TEN!

      GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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        They suck

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        @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

        They suck

        Yes, they sucked. MHO- not ready for prime time. What I learned- keep FAR away form Deshawn Watson. Third round pick sounds about right. We already have his clone on the Browns in Griffin. Mediocre- I can't even begin to describe as an NFL qb prospect.

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          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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          Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

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            Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

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            mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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            @miktoxic said:

            Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

            And yet he has an amazing lifetime coaching record including three National Championships.

            You don't necessarily have to have a prototypical NFL quarterback to win NCAA Championships or Heisman trophies, it's been done many, many times.

            And who says Tebow isn't an NFL QB. 😆

            GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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              Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

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              @miktoxic said:

              Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

              I think that is a feather in his cap.

              He's not there to produce NFL QBs, he is there to win college football games.

              Three championships, three different QBs.

              Zombo

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                Malik Hooker stock up but quit pulling Efflin cause it's not working.Go Bucks!!

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                FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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                @gumby73 said:

                Malik Hooker stock up

                You bet Gumby! Although it's been up all year with me. I could really dig 3 pic 6's and a conference leading INT volume from 1 of our Safeties.

                I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                  @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                  They suck

                  Yes, they sucked. MHO- not ready for prime time. What I learned- keep FAR away form Deshawn Watson. Third round pick sounds about right. We already have his clone on the Browns in Griffin. Mediocre- I can't even begin to describe as an NFL qb prospect.

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                  @hoorta said:

                  Yes, they sucked. MHO- not ready for prime time. What I learned- keep FAR away form Deshawn Watson. Third round pick sounds about right. We already have his clone on the Browns in Griffin. Mediocre- I can't even begin to describe as an NFL qb prospect.

                  I took that from the game as well, no no no

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                    Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

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                    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                    @miktoxic said:

                    Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

                    .851 all-time winning percentage.....w/o a star QB....

                    anyone who wins national championships with a 3rd string QB and Tim Tebow, has to be the greatest coach....everrrrrr

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                      @miktoxic said:

                      Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

                      I think that is a feather in his cap.

                      He's not there to produce NFL QBs, he is there to win college football games.

                      Three championships, three different QBs.

                      Zombo

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                      FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                      Zombo said:

                      I think that is a feather in his cap.

                      He's not there to produce NFL QBs, he is there to win college football games.

                      Three championships, three different QBs.

                      Zombo

                      Exactly!

                      I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                        @miktoxic said:

                        Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

                        .851 all-time winning percentage.....w/o a star QB....

                        anyone who wins national championships with a 3rd string QB and Tim Tebow, has to be the greatest coach....everrrrrr

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                        FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                        @mudfly said:

                        .851 all-time winning percentage.....w/o a star QB....

                        anyone who wins national championships with a 3rd string QB and Tim Tebow, has to be the greatest coach....everrrrrr

                        Well said Mud!

                        I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                          Shocked at the poor showing, but credit to Clemson. I am actually looking forward to a competitive Championship game.

                          Hooker and McMillan both balled out. Clemson simply dominated the trenches both ways.

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                            @miktoxic said:

                            Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

                            And yet he has an amazing lifetime coaching record including three National Championships.

                            You don't necessarily have to have a prototypical NFL quarterback to win NCAA Championships or Heisman trophies, it's been done many, many times.

                            And who says Tebow isn't an NFL QB. 😆

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                            FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                            @mjp28 said:

                            And yet he has an amazing lifetime coaching record including three National Championships.

                            You don't necessarily have to have a prototypical NFL quarterback to win NCAA Championships or Heisman trophies, it's been done many, many times.

                            And who says Tebow isn't an NFL QB. 😆

                            True. Like some of you guys are saying, college coaches aren't being paid to train QBs for the NFL. They're paid to win with a lot of offenses that aren't compatible for the more complex/complicated NFL schemes in football life after. This is a big reason the supply for our demand doesn't look all that sexy to some of us.

                            I watched a ND game earlier in the year where the QB that was better wired for the NFL (Kizer) took a backseat in reps to some QB that was better suited to run the option. The option QB didn't even do that well enough to remember his name the night I saw him.

                            I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                              Urban's success without an NFL QB just strengthens my belief that offense in college football doesn't resemble the NFL

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                                FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                                When we reflect back on when Ohio State morphed from good team to unstoppable during their last National Championship - it began when Cardale filled in for Barrett. Look at the margins of victory especially against teams like Alabama and Oregon in the post season and route of Wisconsin. Unfortunately, that Cardale spark disappeared the next season.

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                                  TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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                                  lets not forget how young this Buckeye team is. This team will bounce back in a hurry. Champions next year.

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                                    lets not forget how young this Buckeye team is. This team will bounce back in a hurry. Champions next year.

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                                    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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                                    @topdawg31 said:

                                    lets not forget how young this Buckeye team is. This team will bounce back in a hurry. Champions next year.

                                    They'll win in the Big 10; but a smart defensive minded coach like D'Antonio can really expose an indecisive QB like Barrett. He doesn't play well against Michigan State and I don't think it's by accident. Clemson did a lot of the same things to him. When they put numbers at the back end, his indecision and lack of trust in his accuracy allowed him to get sacked when Clemson was only bringing 3 upfront. On a couple of those, if he decided to run when he had an opening it would have been a 4-5 yard gain instead of an 8 yard loss. You can't hesitate against teams that really know your weaknesses with enough talent to expose them.

                                    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                                      TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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                                      and again a very young OL that will get better. Maybe a new QB might help. Barrett was the reason Trubisky went to UNC instead of OSU. Bet Urban wishes he had Trubisky instead.

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                                        @miktoxic said:

                                        Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

                                        I think that is a feather in his cap.

                                        He's not there to produce NFL QBs, he is there to win college football games.

                                        Three championships, three different QBs.

                                        Zombo

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                                        Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by Browns149
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                                        Zombo said:

                                        I think that is a feather in his cap.

                                        He's not there to produce NFL QBs, he is there to win college football games.

                                        Three championships, three different QBs.

                                        Zombo

                                        Exactly correct.

                                        I don't see any of Saban's QB's playing well in the pros, and no one is critical of him for not producing NFL QB's

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                                          Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

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                                          @miktoxic said:

                                          Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

                                          Alex Smith of K.C. says hello.

                                          "Smith attended the University of Utah and played for the Utah Utes, wearing number 11. He finished fourth in voting for the 2004 Heisman Trophy and was selected as the 2004 Mountain West Conference Player of the Year. Smith posted a 21–1 record as a starter in college, while leading a high-powered spread offense under head coach Urban Meyer."

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