Hue asking Jimmy to change the FO
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Ian Rapport reports something similar. Maybe not as negative as CBS but involves adding a talent evaluator at the exec level
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Ian Rapport reports something similar. Maybe not as negative as CBS but involves adding a talent evaluator at the exec level
The problem with that is we always end up with Holmgren, Savage, Clark, or someone else who doesn't know talent.Ian Rapport reports something similar. Maybe not as negative as CBS but involves adding a talent evaluator at the exec level
If they are going to hire a person, get someone who actually KNOWS NFL TALENT
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trading down to do it is even more insaneDrafting a #2, slot-receiver, 15 is insane.
trading down to do it is even more insane
You see this crap is part of the problem. People bitch when they don't draft receivers, then they draft one and people still aren't happy. Yeah he didnt have a good year, but he was injured half the season and had rotating QBs to work with. Lets give him another year before we make final judgement. As to the FO office, this up coming draft and FA period they need to be aggressive and make changes, you tore the roster down, evaluated a bunch of players and now have no excuse on what you need to fix, you can't fix this all with drafter players, you need to go after some quality FA, and over pay if you have too. And for the draft if you think there is a potential franchise QB, even if he needs to sit a year, draft him #1 overall and take the best player you can at #12 whether on offense or defense.
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Mitch2Pryor said:
What else is new?
So we need another Holmgren? I don't think we've ever disagreed as much as we do here... Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I read LaCan's "article". It's his typical shit-stirring. There are no signs that our process needs an overhaul... none. And even if there were, then the sample size is way too small to know what change is needed. You role with it as is for one more cycle and then evaluate.
The "reports" are that Hue & Co. will lobby for a "football guy" to oversee the process. How has finding that one guy worked for us in the past? We have "football guys" in place. Some may Peter-out, but some will rise and one will ultimately ascend. Darwin said it long before Peter ever sucked on a tit.
If the reports are true, then Hue needs to STFU and forget politicking the boss. We did not lose today due to "lack of talent".
Hue may want a bigger say on the roster- but bringing in "Earthquake" Griffin and "Trust Me" Kessler- I'm not convinced about his talent evaluation either.
The FO gets a solid F letting key payers walk, and a draft that has contributed little. The past season is one day removed, and the whole organization needs to head to a deserted island to sort out what went wrong- on every level.
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Why would anybody in their right mind think a bean counter attorney could pick better football players than a head coach?
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Manning is Jimmys answer. Bank it
A possibility that I have given thought to as well, but I won't bank on it. I figured Manning would take at least a year off, and could end up in Cleveland as President of Football Operations or President of Player Personnel. Stranger things have happened.
Now I'll defer to....
Mike
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Maybe even a Bernie or a Hanford. A ex player from the Browns better years. Somebody that's been there.
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Mitch2Pryor said:
What else is new?
So we need another Holmgren? I don't think we've ever disagreed as much as we do here... Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I read LaCan's "article". It's his typical shit-stirring. There are no signs that our process needs an overhaul... none. And even if there were, then the sample size is way too small to know what change is needed. You role with it as is for one more cycle and then evaluate.
The "reports" are that Hue & Co. will lobby for a "football guy" to oversee the process. How has finding that one guy worked for us in the past? We have "football guys" in place. Some may Peter-out, but some will rise and one will ultimately ascend. Darwin said it long before Peter ever sucked on a tit.
If the reports are true, then Hue needs to STFU and forget politicking the boss. We did not lose today due to "lack of talent".
Hue may want a bigger say on the roster- but bringing in "Earthquake" Griffin and "Trust Me" Kessler- I'm not convinced about his talent evaluation either.
The FO gets a solid F letting key payers walk, and a draft that has contributed little. The past season is one day removed, and the whole organization needs to head to a deserted island to sort out what went wrong- on every level.
Hue may want a bigger say on the roster- but bringing in "Earthquake" Griffin and "Trust Me" Kessler- I'm not convinced about his talent evaluation either.
The FO gets a solid F letting key payers walk, and a draft that has contributed little. The past season is one day removed, and the whole organization needs to head to a deserted island to sort out what went wrong- on every level.
Precisely.....Hue hasnt done a single thing to indicate that he is a quality talent evaluator....just based upon the final 53 and some of his head scratching roster moves, Id say he has questionable skills in rating and placing players on the field.....just my take....
And.....now that this completely dreadful season has mercifully ended.....Id like to thank you(Larry) and a few others for sticking to your(our) guns from day one......it's our second season to stand alone(on the opposite side of the sunshine vote), take the shots and fight against the irrational thinking of many.....but in the end, someone had to do it....popular or not.....
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Maybe even a Bernie or a Hanford. A ex player from the Browns better years. Somebody that's been there.
Maybe even a Bernie or a Hanford. A ex player from the Browns better years. Somebody that's been there.
Been where? Bankruptcy Court? The drunk tank?
WSS
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Maybe even a Bernie or a Hanford. A ex player from the Browns better years. Somebody that's been there.
Been where? Bankruptcy Court? The drunk tank?
WSS
There's lots of names. Somebody that's played would help. Golic? Hell, I have no qualifications to pick NFL talent and could do better. And why not the drunk tank? Our stupid fucking hillbilly owner listens to the homeless on draft day.Been where? Bankruptcy Court? The drunk tank?
WSS
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Right....ex players dont necessarily know how to grade talent, just because they were players.....heck, Hue was a player, right?
Though....drunk as he is.....Bernie seems to know football and have a great mind when it comes to strategy......Id give him a whirl as a consultant....
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Hue and Jimmy both shot this LaCanfora report down so lets focus on who is here. The only one that needs to go is Horton.
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Why would anybody in their right mind think a bean counter attorney could pick better football players than a head coach?
WSS
Why would anybody in their right mind think a bean counter attorney could pick better football players than a head coach?
WSS
What are you talking about he had plenty of time to learn in that perennial playoff bound organization in Jacksonville Jaguars. I mean isn't that how its done...you hire the young guys from the TOP organization and watch them turn your team into the same kind of team from which they came from.
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Why would anybody in their right mind think a bean counter attorney could pick better football players than a head coach?
WSS
Why would anybody in their right mind think a bean counter attorney could pick better football players than a head coach?
WSS
I could probably do it. I am an attorney. I could have drafted better than the likes of these guys and Farmer.
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Right....ex players dont necessarily know how to grade talent, just because they were players.....heck, Hue was a player, right?
Though....drunk as he is.....Bernie seems to know football and have a great mind when it comes to strategy......Id give him a whirl as a consultant....
Right....ex players dont necessarily know how to grade talent, just because they were players.....heck, Hue was a player, right?
Though....drunk as he is.....Bernie seems to know football and have a great mind when it comes to strategy......Id give him a whirl as a consultant....
Bernie worship I understand. So it's probably a conspiracy amongst the members of the NFL to not have him in charge of the team at some point. Or have any significant contribution.
WSS
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Happy New Year.@ghoolie said:
Yes, take control from a group of jackoffs............... and give it to the jackoff who brought you RG3 and a pick 6 fumble awa at the goal line. LMAO...............
YES YES YESSSSSSSS.................................. let's swap jackoffs....................... THIS is building for the future.
Hey, the owner loves him, or so he sez. So who's your QB pick this year? I figure our FO is looking at on base percentage, try real hard and fail.
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They need to......thats for sure.....
And they will... It's part of the plan. Be patient... the end of April will be here before you know it.
Why would anybody in their right mind think a bean counter attorney could pick better football players than a head coach?
No one... that's why the bean counter is not "picking" football players.
Precisely.....Hue hasnt done a single thing to indicate that he is a quality talent evaluator....just based upon the final 53 and some of his head scratching roster moves, Id say he has questionable skills in rating and placing players on the field.....just my take....
And.....now that this completely dreadful season has mercifully ended.....Id like to thank you(Larry) and a few others for sticking to your(our) guns from day one......it's our second season to stand alone(on the opposite side of the sunshine vote), take the shots and fight against the irrational thinking of many.....but in the end, someone had to do it....popular or not.....
Looking forward to you joining the "sunshine squad" in the near future.
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