Browns' 2017 offseason plan
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need QB at 1 you say allen needs time but you have him in your starting lineup. Any #1 is a crap shoot, need to shoot the crap at a QB,
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need QB at 1 you say allen needs time but you have him in your starting lineup. Any #1 is a crap shoot, need to shoot the crap at a QB,
need QB at 1 you say allen needs time but you have him in your starting lineup. Any #1 is a crap shoot, need to shoot the crap at a QB,
That'll work.
McCown XRGIII XKessler XHogan X -
need QB at 1 you say allen needs time but you have him in your starting lineup. Any #1 is a crap shoot, need to shoot the crap at a QB,
That'll work.
McCown XRGIII XKessler XHogan XThat'll work.
McCown XRGIII XKessler XHogan XYou forgot QB Jesus.....
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That'll work.
McCown XRGIII XKessler XHogan XYou forgot QB Jesus.....
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to think Seattle bet the farm on him before finding wilson
I thought that was Matt Flynn
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to think Seattle bet the farm on him before finding wilson
I thought that was Matt Flynn
I thought that was Matt Flynn
Seattle Seahawks[edit]
Whitehurst was traded to the Seattle Seahawks on March 17, 2010, in exchange for a 2011 third-round draft pick to San Diego, and the two teams switched second-round picks in the 2010 NFL draft. He was signed to a two-year, $8 million contract. Seattle's front office later stated they had already picked up a potential franchise quarterback in the draft by acquiring Whitehurst with the 2011 pick.[10]
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That'll work.
McCown XRGIII XKessler XHogan XYou forgot QB Jesus.....
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I'll also have to chime in on drafting - yet another - marginally talented QB in the 2nd round. Definition of insanity.
Starting ANY rookie QB in game 1? no. Only do that in a video game.
Jury still out, but I think this FO was smart enough to see NO franchise QBs for a couple drafts, so opted for plan B and sign a guy like RG III to be a short term stop gap, as well as keeping McCown. Unfortunate injuries forced plan C, D and E
I'll pass on Phil Dawson, too.
But I would like to see an exceptional place kicker and punter here, especially at this point of the rebuild - these guys are crucial.
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I'll also have to chime in on drafting - yet another - marginally talented QB in the 2nd round. Definition of insanity.
Starting ANY rookie QB in game 1? no. Only do that in a video game.
Jury still out, but I think this FO was smart enough to see NO franchise QBs for a couple drafts, so opted for plan B and sign a guy like RG III to be a short term stop gap, as well as keeping McCown. Unfortunate injuries forced plan C, D and E
I'll pass on Phil Dawson, too.
But I would like to see an exceptional place kicker and punter here, especially at this point of the rebuild - these guys are crucial.
I'll pass on Phil Dawson, too.
But I would like to see an exceptional place kicker and punter here, especially at this point of the rebuild - these guys are crucial.
The Kicker and punter we have are just fine on the team for what we need.
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I'll pass on Phil Dawson, too.
But I would like to see an exceptional place kicker and punter here, especially at this point of the rebuild - these guys are crucial.
The Kicker and punter we have are just fine on the team for what we need.
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Staff :
Fire Ray Horton and hire Gus Bradley as the new D coordinator.
Cuts :
- Robert Griffin III
- Tramon Williams
- Demario Davis
- Ibraheim Campbell
Trades :
- Cam Erving for a conditional pick
- Joe Haden for a 2018 3rd Round pick
Resignings :
- Jamie Collins, 5 years, $51 millions
- Give Isaiah Crowell the tender
- Stephen Pea, 2 years, $3,2 millions
- Britton Colquitt, 1 year, $1,3 million
- Let Terrelle Pryor go
FA Signings :
- Safety Tony Jefferson, 5 years, $35 millions
- Center JC Tretter, 4 years, $28 millions
- Kicker Phil Dawson, 1 year, $3 millions
Mock Draft :
First round (2): Their own pick and the first-round pick from the Philadelphia Eagles
Second round (2): Their own pick and the second-round pick from the Tennessee Titans
Third round (1): Their own pick
Fourth round (2): Selections are compensatory picks for losing Mitchell Schwartz and Tashaun Gipson in free agency.
Fifth round (3): Their own pick, a compensatory pick for losing Travis Benjamin in free agency, the fifth-round pick from the New England Patriots
Sixth round (1): Their own pick
1st Pick : Myles Garrett, DE Texas A&M
Slam dunk, no brainer don't overthink. There is one road to take here, this one. A faster Aldon Smith.
12th Pick : Jalen Tabor, CB Florida
It's time to move on from Joe Haden. I hate that because I love him but he is just not reliable any more. So they replace him with the best corner of this class who happens to be from the same school.
33rd Pick : Josh Allen, QB Wyoming
Reaching for a QB at the top would be a huge mistake. I really wanted Luke Falk here but Allen is a great value at this point. He would certainly need time before starting, but he comes from a pro style offense and has everything you want in a QB except experience.
50th Pick : Desmond King, S Iowa
The free safety position was a disaster this season. King isn't fast enough to be a corner but instinctive and smart enough to be a great ballhawk safety at the next level.
65th Pick : Adoree Jackson, CB USC
Calhoun was a surprise but needs competition in the slot. Jackson is an outstanding athlete who would finally give us a weapon on special team. Could be used on offense too. Reminds me of Devin Hester.
4th Round : Vincent Taylor, DT Oklahoma State
Kendell Beckwith, LB LSU
5th Round : Jordan Willis, DE Kansas State
Tyler Orlosky, C West Virginia
Tyrone Crowder, G Clemson
6th Round : Stacy Coley, WR Miami
2017 Starting Lineup :
Offense :
QB : Josh Allen
RB : Isaiah Crowell, (Duke Johnson)
(FB : Dan Vitale)
WR : Corey Coleman, Rashard Higgins, Andrew Hawkins
TE : Gary Barnidge, (Seth Devalve)
OL : Joe Thomas, Joel Bitonio, JC Tretter, John Greco, Shon Coleman
Defense :
DL : Myles Garrett, Danny Shelton, Desmond Bryant, Emmanuel Ogbah
LB : Dominique Alexander, Chris Kirksey, Jamie Collins
CB : Jalen Tabor, Jamar Taylor, (Briean Boddy-Calhoun)
S : Tony Jefferson, Desmond King
Special Teams :
K : Phil Dawson
P : Britton Colquitt
LS : Charley Hughlett
KR/PR : Adoree Jackson
One offseason. That's what it would take.
Staff :
Fire Ray Horton and hire Gus Bradley as the new D coordinator.
Cuts :
- Robert Griffin III
- Tramon Williams
- Demario Davis
- Ibraheim Campbell OK so far.
Trades :
- Cam Erving for a conditional six pack of Great Lakes.
- Joe Haden for a 2018 3rd Round pick disagree, he's been playing on two bad legs.
Resignings :
- Jamie Collins, 5 years, $51 millions
- Give Isaiah Crowell the tender
- Stephen Pea, 2 years, $3,2 millions
- Britton Colquitt, 1 year, $1,3 million
- Let Terrelle Pryor go and replace his 1,000 yards with who? Not Coleman for sure
FA Signings :
- Safety Tony Jefferson, 5 years, $35 millions
- Center JC Tretter, 4 years, $28 millions
- Kicker Phil Dawson, 1 year, $3 millions that ship has sailed, never to return. BTW, Phil is 41, we're on a youth movement
Mock Draft :
First round (2): Their own pick and the first-round pick from the Philadelphia Eagles
Second round (2): Their own pick and the second-round pick from the Tennessee Titans
Third round (1): Their own pick
Fourth round (2): Selections are compensatory picks for losing Mitchell Schwartz and Tashaun Gipson in free agency.
Fifth round (3): Their own pick, a compensatory pick for losing Travis Benjamin in free agency, the fifth-round pick from the New England Patriots
Sixth round (1): Their own pick
1st Pick : Myles Garrett, DE Texas A&M
Slam dunk, no brainer don't overthink. There is one road to take here, this one. A faster Aldon Smith.
12th Pick : Jalen Tabor, CB Florida
It's time to move on from Joe Haden. I hate that because I love him but he is just not reliable any more. So they replace him with the best corner of this class who happens to be from the same school.
33rd Pick : Josh Allen, QB Wyoming
Reaching for a QB at the top would be a huge mistake. I really wanted Luke Falk here but Allen is a great value at this point. He would certainly need time before starting, but he comes from a pro style offense and has everything you want in a QB except experience.
One offseason. That's what it would take.
Too early to speculate what the Browns may do in the draft. Can't say I know much about Allen- his name hasn't come up yet. Doing some research- for good reason, he's only a sophomore and isn't eligible. And his stats aren't anything to write home about either. My quarterback pecking order is currently Trubisky- Kizer- Mahomes- Watson.
Letting Pryor walk would be a mistake, unless he's asking for the moon in a new contract. I could see the Browns going after Switzer from NC, a younger and cheaper alternative to Hawkins.
If the Browns don't sign a FA o-line as you suggest, drafting one no later than the pick we got from the Titans in the second round is imperative in my book, because Erving flat out sucks.
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Half your picks are first rounders.
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Staff :
Fire Ray Horton and hire Gus Bradley as the new D coordinator.
Cuts :
- Robert Griffin III
- Tramon Williams
- Demario Davis
- Ibraheim Campbell OK so far.
Trades :
- Cam Erving for a conditional six pack of Great Lakes.
- Joe Haden for a 2018 3rd Round pick disagree, he's been playing on two bad legs.
Resignings :
- Jamie Collins, 5 years, $51 millions
- Give Isaiah Crowell the tender
- Stephen Pea, 2 years, $3,2 millions
- Britton Colquitt, 1 year, $1,3 million
- Let Terrelle Pryor go and replace his 1,000 yards with who? Not Coleman for sure
FA Signings :
- Safety Tony Jefferson, 5 years, $35 millions
- Center JC Tretter, 4 years, $28 millions
- Kicker Phil Dawson, 1 year, $3 millions that ship has sailed, never to return. BTW, Phil is 41, we're on a youth movement
Mock Draft :
First round (2): Their own pick and the first-round pick from the Philadelphia Eagles
Second round (2): Their own pick and the second-round pick from the Tennessee Titans
Third round (1): Their own pick
Fourth round (2): Selections are compensatory picks for losing Mitchell Schwartz and Tashaun Gipson in free agency.
Fifth round (3): Their own pick, a compensatory pick for losing Travis Benjamin in free agency, the fifth-round pick from the New England Patriots
Sixth round (1): Their own pick
1st Pick : Myles Garrett, DE Texas A&M
Slam dunk, no brainer don't overthink. There is one road to take here, this one. A faster Aldon Smith.
12th Pick : Jalen Tabor, CB Florida
It's time to move on from Joe Haden. I hate that because I love him but he is just not reliable any more. So they replace him with the best corner of this class who happens to be from the same school.
33rd Pick : Josh Allen, QB Wyoming
Reaching for a QB at the top would be a huge mistake. I really wanted Luke Falk here but Allen is a great value at this point. He would certainly need time before starting, but he comes from a pro style offense and has everything you want in a QB except experience.
One offseason. That's what it would take.
Too early to speculate what the Browns may do in the draft. Can't say I know much about Allen- his name hasn't come up yet. Doing some research- for good reason, he's only a sophomore and isn't eligible. And his stats aren't anything to write home about either. My quarterback pecking order is currently Trubisky- Kizer- Mahomes- Watson.
Letting Pryor walk would be a mistake, unless he's asking for the moon in a new contract. I could see the Browns going after Switzer from NC, a younger and cheaper alternative to Hawkins.
If the Browns don't sign a FA o-line as you suggest, drafting one no later than the pick we got from the Titans in the second round is imperative in my book, because Erving flat out sucks.
Too early to speculate what the Browns may do in the draft. Can't say I know much about Allen- his name hasn't come up yet. Doing some research- for good reason, he's only a sophomore and isn't eligible. And his stats aren't anything to write home about either. My quarterback pecking order is currently Trubisky- Kizer- Mahomes- Watson.
Letting Pryor walk would be a mistake, unless he's asking for the moon in a new contract. I could see the Browns going after Switzer from NC, a younger and cheaper alternative to Hawkins.
If the Browns don't sign a FA o-line as you suggest, drafting one no later than the pick we got from the Titans in the second round is imperative in my book, because Erving flat out sucks.
Allen is a RS sophomore so he's eligible.
Pryor isn't a N1 wideout. Giving him that type or money is a mistake. We drafted 4 guys last year, let's see what they can do.
I said they should sign Tretter, the center from the Packers. He graded as the 11th best center last season and will probably leave because the have Corey Lindsey who is still in his rookie contract.
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Cut demario? The guy who kept ol off kirksey?
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The Wyo. QB is a huge reach. Level of competition a major factor. If you want a better reach @ QB it would be Kelly, who has a better bloodline and far better competition. Or Kizer if he is still there.
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I understand the thinking on the Wyoming QB, but it's definitely a reach to place him as the season's starter. You really don't want to start any rookies back there, especially one that plays against lesser college talent. But I like the first round picks, and if you go that way in the first, you're going to have to find a "second tier" type QB. Maybe the Wyoming guy can succeed, but I doubt he will start day one.
I'm also not too sure about letting Pryor go. His contract will be a MOTHER to work out, as there really isn't precedent here, and his agents are complete douche bags. But make no mistake about it, Pryor wants to play in Cleveland, and he wants to play for Hue Jackson. This weekend Pryor told the media that he instructed his agents to get a deal done in Cleveland. That's very encouraging, and I think we need him. We can't let him go because we don't have another proven receiver. Coleman didn't do anything, and it's tough to predict how he'll improve. He suffered a broken hand, had to deal with abysmal QB play, and also had to deal with the continuous changing of the QB position. Those conditions make it difficult to succeed, especially for a rookie. I really believe Corey has the tools needed to succeed, but we really didn't see much out of him. He never made a "jaw-dropping" play. Never took an ordinary pass and did something extraordinary with it. Not even once. I am NOT calling him a bust, simply saying I was hoping for so much more from him, and I think that's fair.
We've all heard the numerous reports of what the Patriots want for Jimmy Garoppolo. Many people on this board have stated their opinion, and have said there is no way in hell they would trade a first and a fourth for a QB with very little experience. However, Mary Kay Cabot has written several times that she's spoken to multiple NFL execs that have said they'd do this deal in a heartbeat. We need a QB, and there is no great way to get one this year. It will be interesting to see how we attack this severe need.
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Makes no sense. Demario played well for us. Watch the film. Everytime i rewound plays he was more or less doing his job
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If we give up any of our picks for garropolo im going to shit on a wall. Trenches first
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Ironically, our trenches are in better shape than many of us realize. Can we get better? Of course. Can we improve our DEPTH? Oh yeah. However, we are getting Bitonio back at guard, and Greco back at the other one (hopefully...those injuries are no joke). Thomas is obviously coming back. RT is pretty much up in the air, but I found it interesting that our owner specifically mentioned Shon Coleman as one of our young building blocks. Anybody else notice that? Shon wasn't awesome or anything, but he did do VERY well in run blocking. I'm serious guys, he had a couple of pancake blocks that were vicious. Shon wasn't supposed to play much this year because he was recovering from some serious injuries and illness, and he also had to learn a completely new blocking scheme. Apparently what he did in college was vastly different, and he had a ton to learn. That being said, I REALLY wanted him to play SOME, and he did! I'd say our biggest question mark is at center, and it's safe to say we're moving ON from Cam Erving. Now, Cam DID look much more comfortable at RT than he ever did at center, and that's a good thing. Yes, he got his ass torched on that one sack, but try and remember the other team has guys that are pros too. Also keep in mind that Austin Reiter played a pretty solid game in his one start at center, so it's possible we already have our guy. I don't think our OL is in as bad of shape as people may think.
On the flip side, our defensive line appears to be getting a boost with the return of Desmond Bryant. Bryant visited the team last week and was medically cleared to return to football. Keep in mind that he sadly lead our team in sacks last year with 6 from the DT position. Lord, did we need him this year or WHAT? And so many fans seem to be caught up in what defense we're playing. Yes, we play a "3-4" defense, but pro football focus said we ran a 4-3 about 35% of the time (I think...can't find that stat at the moment). So while we're a 3-4, we actually play 4-3 a ton. Something tells me we'll play even more 4-3 if we happen to draft a certain DE from Texas. You'd have Ogbah on one side, Garrett on the other, and Shelton and Bryant in the middle. That's not too shabby.
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